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Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott
Post Number: 100 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 3:19 pm: | |
At the factory, saw both 8's and 12's on the dyno. If they don't make the specified horsepower, they are sent back to the engine shop (in a different building) to be "re-educated". I have also seen and heard cars on the shakedown runs around Maranello. They're driven like they're stolen. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 629 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 01, 2003 - 3:09 pm: | |
When we visited the factory, both were i th edyno room, and we were told that both were on the dyno for 30 minutes each. |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 98 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 7:36 pm: | |
Dave Are both the V-12's and V-8's run on the dyno for a 1/2hr or just the 12's? |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 627 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, December 31, 2002 - 7:32 pm: | |
My 550 had 87 miles on it, as also attested by the bill of lading prior to going on the ship to the US. This is more or less typical. They tend to drive the V-12's slightly longer than the V-8's. At the factory, each engine is run on the dyno at full redline for 30 minutes before going into the car. I believe the reason the factory urges keeping the RPM's lower for a while is more to allow the new owner to get used to all that horsepower & torque before going for redline. All IMHO, of ocurse... |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 76 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 5:01 pm: | |
Bart We call it a Rolling Road |
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
Junior Member Username: Sharky666
Post Number: 125 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 4:11 pm: | |
Well, the firing up of a engine is also done with Mercedes. With school we went to the Mercedes factory in Bremen were they were building the SL500 and the SL 55 AMG, and when they were completed, a "tester" drove the car onto a rollerbench (don't know the correct english term) then the doors were shut, but you could still hear the engine make maximum revs. And that was even before it left the factory. But I don't think every Mercedes gets test drived before it get's delivered, it's too big of an production car for that matter I guess. To get back to the topic, I guess up to 80 km would be "brand" new. |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 75 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 3:35 pm: | |
Matty All engines are run in on a dyno, presumably the suggestion in the manual is to let other things like Tranmission, Brakes etc to bed in. |
Rodney Haas (Icars)
Junior Member Username: Icars
Post Number: 75 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 2:49 pm: | |
I can ditto what Joseph had to say. Both Ferrari & Maserati "shake downs" sound like car firing up for a F1 race. Kind of strange standing around look the Ferrari paint shop and wham a "new" car fly's past for it's shake down. Very similiar thing happened when touring Maserati. One of the members of our group jumped out to take a look and nearly got run over ;) Rodney Haas http://www.maffiacarclub.com Plano, Texas |
Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Junior Member Username: Nebulaclass
Post Number: 56 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 2:34 pm: | |
We got three Barchettas at Ogner when I worked there. Each on had 9 - 15 miles on them.
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Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 1799 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 2:28 pm: | |
I thought anyting under 100 miles could be considered delivery miles. if the car has 500 miles on it it is likely the dealer slapped on some dealer plates and used the car for a while. |
Joseph Caretti (Pino)
Junior Member Username: Pino
Post Number: 122 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 11:28 am: | |
Just stand outside the factory gates after lunch time. That's when all the cars that have been assembled go for their shakedown run. It literally sounds like the start of an F1 race. Under 6000 rpm? I don't think so. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 2115 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:34 am: | |
I think people came up with "delivery miles" because they can't claim the car is new but don't like the neg connotation of "used". Delivery miles is like "barely used" but used. To me a new car should have less than 100 miles on it. Any more than 500 is a used car that has not been used much |
Jonathan Peck (Jonathanp)
New member Username: Jonathanp
Post Number: 30 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 10:30 am: | |
I took delivery of an '03 360 Coupe last week for a client of mine. It had 56 miles on it when we backed it off the truck from the Ferrari Dealer.
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Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 3499 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Monday, December 30, 2002 - 9:50 am: | |
When I was importing Mazda Miatas to Germany we broke them in this way. "full throttle on the Autobahn. no regard for RPMs and speed" My Miatas were the best running cars when they were delivered. It frees up the engine. BTW if the engine breaks you are under warranty and get a new engine installed. If it breaks it will likely break even breaking the engine in as recommended. Just later and you may then be out of warranty  |
Matty (Liquid)
New member Username: Liquid
Post Number: 7 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 7:17 pm: | |
Thanks for the heads up Mark & Jeff. |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 91 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 7:13 pm: | |
Matty, Mark is correct. They drive the cars on the street and the track. I was told the total drive time is less than one hour. My two new cars had 64 and 54 miles on them. |
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 1144 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 6:37 pm: | |
I am sure the Ferrari test drivers drive them Like they stole them. |
Matty (Liquid)
New member Username: Liquid
Post Number: 6 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 5:34 pm: | |
Thanks for the quick response Mark. Also do all of the F-cars have a proper engine break-in procedure? The car i'm currently in stated in the owners manual to stay below 6,000rpms for the first 600miles to properly break-in the engine. I'd be very suspicious on buying a brand new F-car with over 1,000 miles not knowing how the previous owner broke in the engine. |
Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins
Post Number: 69 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 4:56 pm: | |
Matty thay all do a route in the hills South of Maranello and a few laps of Fiorano, I assume the Odo's are connected for these shakedowns so I would expect all cars to have around 50 miles on them before they leave the factory. Add to that moving them on and off ships, dealer preps and road tests, however 500 miles seems a bit excessive |
Matty (Liquid)
New member Username: Liquid
Post Number: 5 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Sunday, December 29, 2002 - 4:38 pm: | |
Can someone tell me how many miles are on a brand new F-car upon delivery? I'm seeing lots of 360's on ebay saying they are brand new fresh off the truck with around 500 miles on them. Is it possible to take delivery of an F-car w/ no more than 20 miles? |