| Author | Message | ||
| David S (Djs308)
New member Username: Djs308 Post Number: 26 Registered: 9-2002 |
About the 959, I found one for sale at a dealer in Bedford, NY: http://www.huntingridgemotors.com/cars.php?cat=exotics&carid=64&subcat=porsche Hope the link works. Anyway, they don't discuss the legality of the car or the price. Looks good though... | ||
| Francisco J. Quinones (Frankie)
Junior Member Username: Frankie Post Number: 152 Registered: 8-2002 |
The XJ220 and the 959 are both legal in the states for "show & display" purposes nowadays, with a mileage limit of 2500 miles per year thanks largely in part to the efforts of people like Bill Gates and Ralph Lauren plus other enthusiasts that got together and helped push it through. Gates bought a 959 new and brought it to the states,and tried to convince the gov to accept a computer simulation of the required crash tests,the gov said no way and was going to crush it,but i think in ended up in an impound yard for years,the only legal 959 in the country from new belongs to Otis Chandler got it in with a museum/display visa for 10 years i think,it's one of 25 959 sports built for the U.S. as "race cars" but when they got here customs saw the carpeting and full leather covered rollcages and sent them back.  The Feds call them "limited use/limited impact" cars,the law applies to cars 25 years old or less,with "historical or technological significance". I got most of this info from Autoweek jan-8-2001 issue with the XJ220 on the cover,as of that date the cars certified for importation were: XJ220 959 BMW Z1 McLaren F1 (although i believe the one in R&T was brought in earlier and had 7k miles on it when it appeared in the mag) Pug 205 Turbo 16 (Group B,the killer B's  ) Bugatti EB110 Maybe since then the laws may have changed a bit allowing more mileage and almost certainly different cars.there's a link but i don't have the time to check it now, www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/import/ShowDisplay/ DOT ph#202-564-4000 again,this is a few years old but it may help. p.s. last weeks Autoweek had a silver/maroon(burgundy?)959 for sale at just $275k (*grin* but can't afford it ) so with 959's going for about 150-200k plus conversion costs it seems about right,pending PPI of course hope this novel helps a bit. I wish everyone here at F-chat and their families and loved ones a HAPPY,HEALTHY AND PROSPEROUS NEW YEAR!!! Frankie | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 658 Registered: 11-2001 |
actually, don't wish for that - that would imply some insane rate of hyper-inflation given that he's the richest guy on the block by far. "may we all be successful enough to potentially afford a 959 someday" might be a less destructive sentiment ;-) doody! | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1211 Registered: 8-2002 |
Brian The numnber is a 959 and the dealership is Keuylian Motors. It's between La Cienegia and Santa Monica. BTW. the 959 was created to compete in the Group B rally series that never happpened. Ferrari created the 288 for that same series. Those two cars started the HP/speed wars. | ||
| Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
New member Username: Brisalig Post Number: 30 Registered: 8-2002 |
The Jag XJ220 was at a dealer about 8 blocks from ferrari of Beverly hills on wilshire blvd. start at wilshire and rodeo. walk on wilshire towards ferrari of Beverly hills, and its about 7 or 8 blocks from ferrari of Beverly hills. The silver porsche is there too! the porsche was built for bill gates before any were allowed into the US. He had loved that car since highschool and paid lots and lots of import tax.(more than he paid for the car itself) Hope thats helpful. Sorry i dont kmnow the model numnber, im not much of a porsche guy. Happy New Year! | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 73 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yea, im pretty sure they aren't street legal in the US. Wasn't his a silver one? Bill Gates may be a bad driver, but he can sure afford to be May we all be that rich one day! | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
Member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 447 Registered: 3-2002 |
I heard Bill Gates has a 959... Aren't those illiegal? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 642 Registered: 8-2002 |
Not sure, Matt, but i CAN tell you that i read in an article last year that he's not a very good driver, at all... (ha, ha, i'm poor, but at least i can drive...) Just goes to show that money isn't everything... | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Junior Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 114 Registered: 10-2002 |
What's the story on Bill Gates porshe. I heard he was arrested once for speeding in one but what the word on that specific car. | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 71 Registered: 12-2002 |
LOL Rodeo Drive is great for Ferrari spotting There is one at every stop light on the weekends! What dealer was the XJ220 at? Ive never seen one in person and I didnt even think there were any in the US! | ||
| pete (Pete_peter)
New member Username: Pete_peter Post Number: 5 Registered: 12-2002 |
what's a porsche ? | ||
| Robert Rothschild (Rothschild)
New member Username: Rothschild Post Number: 31 Registered: 6-2002 |
Impressive list...it is like mecca out here isn't it? FYI, East Bay BMW (Hendrick) has a pristine M1 in their showroom, not for sale just for gawking...it's from the owners private collection. | ||
| Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
New member Username: Brisalig Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, maybe my list isn't that great, but it was super exciting for me! | ||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Junior Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 136 Registered: 11-2002 |
Okay.. My list of cars when I wen't to Monaco (Monte Carlo) Ferrari: All Lamborghini: All (sadly, not the Jalpa) Porsches: All Okay, maybe not all.. But damn close | ||
| Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
New member Username: Brisalig Post Number: 28 Registered: 8-2002 |
Willis, I saw TONS of porsches, but I dont know porsche model numbers. I did see bill gates's old porsche, and Nick Cage's Diablo | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 551 Registered: 9-2001 |
Wow, a BMW M1. I haven't seen one of those in years.  | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1069 Registered: 8-2001 |
What, no Porsches?! | ||
| Brian Saligman (Brisalig)
New member Username: Brisalig Post Number: 27 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hey guys, I just returned from a trip to Beverly Hills / San Francisco to meet some new family, and you will not believe some of the cars I saw. Below is a list. Ferrari -360 black (street) -360 yellow (street) -550 Barchetta (street) (dealer) -360 spider (street) (dealer) -F40 (museum) -F50 (museum) -1956 or 57 Testarossa (museum) -456 GTA (dealer) -355 Spider (street) (dealer) Lamborghini -Diablo (dealer) -Murcialago (dealer) -Countach (sp?) (hotel and dealer) Aston Martin -DB7 (everywhere) -V12 Vanquish (rodeo drive) BMW -Z8 (rodeo drive) -M3, M5, M Roadster (parked next to eachother, all in black) -M1 (dealer) Jaguar -XJ220 (dealer) And lets not forget TONS AND TONS of Benz, BMW, and Hummer. |