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Al LaPeter (Lapeter)
New member Username: Lapeter
Post Number: 22 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, January 08, 2003 - 8:05 am: | |
This looks loke a reasonable price for a 360 spider http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1876119401&category=6212 |
Nick Berry (Nickb)
Junior Member Username: Nickb
Post Number: 53 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Monday, January 06, 2003 - 12:31 pm: | |
A fully converted(to US spec.) Spider will sell for substantially more. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 168 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 3:39 pm: | |
Robert, Even less. You can get a March delivery your-spec Euro for 145 (spider, mind you), or an '01 6sp with 1500m for 130. WHat bothers me is why spend 550 money for a 360? --Dan |
Robert (Rjklein4470)
Junior Member Username: Rjklein4470
Post Number: 211 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 2:48 pm: | |
It does pay, You can get a Euro for 170 delivered to your door with less than 300 miles on the ticker. It is the same car. The question is why would you want to be upside down in a car. This is why the F cars do not get driven. People buy above MSRP so they try to protect their investment. I say buy what you will drive. |
RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90
Post Number: 145 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 1:57 pm: | |
there are two f-dealers which you can buy 01 with 1K miles for about $200K. why would you want to pay $185 for a euro. just does not pay. |
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
New member Username: Bel
Post Number: 19 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:52 am: | |
Jef, These are the MSRP in Belgium : 360 Coupe : 131470 Euro 360 Spider :150104 Euro 575 Mar : 197543 Euro 456 GT : 202467 Euro Just add +/- 7K for F1. Bart |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:25 am: | |
If ferrari can make 50k more per car in the US you would think they would send more here. It probably wouldn't hurt anything by adding to the market, except the euro import market. I didn't relize they were that much cheaper new in europe. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 278 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 11:18 am: | |
Todays NYT. Amerspec: 360 Spyders 185M |
Bart Bosmans (Bel)
New member Username: Bel
Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Sunday, January 05, 2003 - 9:48 am: | |
Some info from Europe, i'm looking for 2 months in the 360 coupe and spider market. The prices here in Europe dropped : new 360 coupe 112K Euro,360 coupe F1 119 K Euro,new 360 Spider 128K Euro. Bart |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 754 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:51 pm: | |
But it's still so pretty
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ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 251 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:35 pm: | |
look at this one: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=6212&item=1876211133 The same spider Jamil posted with the same Vin Number in Florida. Can you say scam! |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 47 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:15 pm: | |
Current bid price with 6 days left means absolutely nothing! |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 46 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:13 pm: | |
If the 420 coupe looks pretty much like the 360, I personally would keep the spider. Can't beat the top down on a nice day! They make 20% more spiders than coupes? I thought it would be the other way around. |
Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariguy
Post Number: 76 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:08 pm: | |
Yes, but how long is it going to last at the current bid price? I bet it'll reach close to 200K |
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
New member Username: Jameel
Post Number: 10 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 12:03 pm: | |
Check this out! Silver 360 Spyder for $139,050 ! on e-bay http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1876137814 |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1075 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 11:27 am: | |
It's not like it's bargain season for 360 spiders. Those asking prices are still above MSRP. |
Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer
Post Number: 582 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:28 am: | |
From the Dupont Registry: -Ferrari of Seattle: -2002 F-1 Spider, 850 miles, $229k -2001 F-1 Spider, 1075 miles, $215k -Miller Motorcars: -2001 Spider, 1107 miles, $210k -Ferrari of Los Gatos: -2001 Spider, 4750 miles, $219k -Private Seller: -2001 US Spider, 6 spd, 3275 miles, $209,500 |
DES (Sickspeed)
Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 733 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 10:05 am: | |
Oh, boy, prices are dropping...! It won't be long now...
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Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
Member Username: Iluv4res
Post Number: 289 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 9:09 am: | |
There's a Euro 360 spider with about 300 miles on it for about $170k. Prices have DEFINITELY dropped within the past year or so. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 3513 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 7:57 am: | |
Spiders trade at $ 220-$230K right now. I know of a recent sale with lots of equipment for $ 230K, so a bare Spider will go for $ 220K.
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ELI (Titanium360)
Junior Member Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 249 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 7:15 am: | |
if you guys had a choice would you get a 01 360 spider or 04 420 coupe? |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 100 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 6:39 am: | |
Jeff I'm # 40 on the combined list Rijk |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 110 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Friday, January 03, 2003 - 5:15 am: | |
Jake No, no time frame. I'm expecting, or better yet hoping that 2003 is the last year for the 360. This would mean that the 360 had been in production for 5 years which seems to be the norm for Ferrari. Plus all the rumors of a 360 Stradale and Barchetta seem to point to the end of the 360 run. |
jake diamond (Rampante)
New member Username: Rampante
Post Number: 42 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:14 pm: | |
Jeff, Have you been given any "time frame" yet? Jake |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 109 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 11:04 pm: | |
Jeff I'm sure by the time I receive the 420 coupe, the drop in spider prices and the rising cost of the 420 coupe, the two prices will be very close. I have to keep in mind that the dealers will control the prices in their favor. But heck, if I get all my money back on the spider I just drove a great car for free (not counting gas, insurance etc) Jake I'm sure someone can come up with the correct numbers but when the entire production run of the 360 coupe/spider is done the ratio will be 60% spiders and 40% coupes. I believe this has been the normal ratio in the past. |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 45 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 9:54 pm: | |
So Jeff, does this mean your dealer will actually give you cash back with your new 420 coupe for your spider? At 220 though, you are still way ahead of msrp. Sounds good for you if you would rather have a 420 than your spider. |
jake diamond (Rampante)
New member Username: Rampante
Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 9:48 pm: | |
There will probably still be the five to one ratio of 420 spiders to 420 coupes sold by most , if not all , dealers. So I think the majority will still hang in there and bide their time; waiting for "their" spider. |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 108 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 9:16 pm: | |
Rijk Are you #40 on the Spider list only or #40 on the 360 coupe/spider list?
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Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 99 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
Oops, I guess Jeff is right, and that the spider comes one year later (2004?). That will mess up my plan Rijk |
J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff
Post Number: 107 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:46 pm: | |
Jeff The Spider prices have dropped but have remained steady around $220K. This would be for a 2002 model. This is the numnber my dealer gave me for my car. I will be trading my car in for the 420 and my dealer said I will not lose any money on my 2002 Spider. The coupe is barely staying above list. When the 420 comes out it's the 360 coupe that suffers on price. The reason for this is that the 420 Spider won't start production until after the coupe has been out for a year. This has been Ferrari's routine for new models. Spiders on the resale market become hard to get. Coupe owners love coupes and will trade their old cars in for the new 420 coupe. Spider owners have a tendency to skip the coupe and wait for the new Spider. All this is according to my dealer. This is why the 355 Spider kept a high resale. My personal situation is that I will trade my Spider in on the 420 coupe because I know I will be getting the 420 Spider later. I don't "flip" cars. I just return the car to the dealer and he is happy to sell me the next one. |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 98 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:46 pm: | |
I have a spider on order and am # 40 in line now (started as # 94 at WWoC). However, I do not want the 360 anymore and I am working to become an early 420 customer. Rijk |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 97 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:41 pm: | |
Jeff 240K is 70K OVER sticker, this never happened to the 355. IMO there is no more room OVER sticker Rijk |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 637 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 8:29 pm: | |
Asking prices are down in some areas of the US. However (and this is the most important thing), SELLING prices are way down. |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 44 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 7:42 pm: | |
355 spiders didn't drop when the 360 spider first came out and doubt that when the 420 comes out it will have much effect on the 360's because the supply will be so low, most people won't want to wait out the years it will take to buy one at a reasonable price. |
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4
Post Number: 96 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 7:30 pm: | |
Why would you buy a 360 for anything over sticker right now. It is bound to drop off very quickly very soon with the arrival of the 420. |
Nick Berry (Nickb)
New member Username: Nickb
Post Number: 50 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:58 pm: | |
If you can buy a US 360 Spider for $200-210,000 do it! However, I doubt you would be able to do so. It is true they are no longer selling for $270,000 but most are still priced around $240,000.  |
martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member Username: Mw360
Post Number: 731 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 6:38 pm: | |
"asking" prices for 360 spiders have come down from the 250k level 6-9 mo ago to the 210-220k level today.I would think they actually sell for 5-10k below asking price.Just a guess. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 91 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 5:49 pm: | |
Ive seen that trend too, but I'm mostly seeing a price drop in 360 Modenas more than anything. You cna get a good Modena for 130k now if you look in the right places! I've seen that drop from like 160k or so? 355's of all models, and early Diablos are going way down too...However I think 308s are on their way up soon It might just be me though  |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
New member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 43 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, January 02, 2003 - 5:28 pm: | |
Is it me or does it seem like 360 spiders are not breaking 200k anymore? I see the same ones advertised over and over again and they seem to never sell. Has anyone bought a used one lately and if so, what range did you find that the sellers would actually take when it came down to it? (assuming you looked at more than one) |