| Author | Message | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1704 Registered: 2-2001 |
brake pads on the track Might last me 1 day  slicks maybe 7 days if I'm lucky BTW I do Lime Rock in 1:01 | ||
| Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop Post Number: 378 Registered: 1-2002 |
On the road or track, driving smoothly will increase component life, especially clutches and trannys. Also, drive it like it is fragile until you have some oil temp. On the track, heat is the enemy, don't let oil get too hot. Don't defer maintenance. Be wary of fat, sticky tires, the chassis may not be able to take the additional stress (especially cars pre 1990). Follow these rules, and you should be able to enjoy all the performance without worry. Dave | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1856 Registered: 6-2001 |
Lou, you renew my faith in ferrari. 2nd set of pads after 10k miles? im betting thats due mostly to the track use. replacing pads and tires isnt that bad, i just dont want to be replacing engines and transmissions. | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Junior Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 154 Registered: 9-2001 |
A Ferrari is a Ferrari is a Ferrari... Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller P.S. Luigi, You are coming from Ticino? Very nice! Where exactly? Used to be in St.Moritz so often with my parents when I was young. Great place to be when you want to go to Italy regulary. | ||
| Luigi Gatti (Luigi)
Junior Member Username: Luigi Post Number: 62 Registered: 10-2001 |
Of course Rob, you loose time while drifting, but it is really amusing! Not every lap is done to improve our laptimes... ;)   | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 103 Registered: 4-2001 |
I have had extrememly good results with my Fcars. 328: 60000 hard miles, 15 track events, 5000 rally miles, drag strip, 8000rpm plus, regular service and one water pump and clutch. 512TR: 25000 hard miles, 4 track events, 4000 rally miles, drag strip, rev limiter well known, zero problems after upgrading brakes but only 4000miles per set of P zeros. 360 Spider: 10000 hard miles, 4 track events, 3000 rally miles, frequentl red line, zero problems, clutch still fine, secend set of pads and P zeros. F cars are a lot tougher than a lot of you think. Drive hard and enjoy! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3106 Registered: 12-2000 |
Drifts are so pretty, but slow unless you're rallying. ;) | ||
| Luigi Gatti (Luigi)
Junior Member Username: Luigi Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2001 |
 And no problems! | ||
| Lawrence Coppari (Lawrence)
Member Username: Lawrence Post Number: 449 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tracked my 328 for 5 years - approximately 40 hours of track time. Below items died during its track career. 1 main seal 1 oil cooler 1 receiver/dryer 1 clutch The oil cooler might have been due to me revving it when oil was cool during my salad years. It crushed an oil filter internally. The cooler failure occurred soon after. Clutch was about 50% worn I was told and was probably due to previous owner. Had it replaced when seal was done. I'm easy on clutches. My experience with tracking cars is that you can use them and you can abuse them. If you remain within design parameters, the things are durable. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3104 Registered: 12-2000 |
Engine wise I think less will break if you drive them hard. Most Ferraris run better when driven hard. Why do you think the phrase "Italian Tune Up" is so popular. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1703 Registered: 2-2001 |
depends on the model, the 308s for instance are notorious for having their stub axle fail when driven hard on sticky new tires, Ive had 2 fail on mine. The 512TR is nearly bulletproof other than the stock brakes just were not up to track use. Ive had to change the printed circuit board for the fuse box on both the 308 & 512TR, Italian electrician seems to be an oxymoron | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2002 |
Use (method of, magnitude and frequency) vs. failure (frequency of bustication). Interesting subject. Hard track driving, increases brake system maintenance for sure, but everyone (?) should know how that works (drive fast, brake hard, turn, rinse, repeat). Can increase body repair frequency, insurance costs, healthcare cost. Increases the quality of a person's life in general, though; a plus! IMO, drive hard (in a controlled environment), keep up with maintenance (preventative and otherwise), and ENJOY! In my experience with owners, many of them easily justify the tangible expense of initial purchase, but then have difficulty justifying an intangible like an event, where the owner cannot resell the experience, but they can and do resell the car and recoup their investment, sometimes for a gain. Which brings to mind a couple of thoughts: Many people derive greater pleasure keeping from spending something they already have vs. making more money (or creating more memories). Secondly, a quote from a friend when his buddy didn't want to pay to bring his car to a track event (1200 mile tow) one winter, "Do you want to be the richest man in the cemetery, do you want your kids to blow your money on drugs, spend it on yourself, you worked for it!" | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 596 Registered: 10-2001 |
Well, I know that I don't drive mine as hard as others, primarily because the two factors are directly related. I do however toss it through the corners on the back roads and hit the high speeds occasionally. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1852 Registered: 6-2001 |
I dont think this has had its own thread. We all know that Ferraris are supposed to be driven hard. How does how hard they are driven relate to how much stuff on them breaks? |