| Author | Message | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 106 Registered: 12-2002 |
Thanks for the story James! I take back what I said! The car sounds amazing from hte way you described its features. Anywhere I can find more pictures of it? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 280 Registered: 10-2002 |
The Chaparral's are on display in Midland,TX. There are many good books on these cars. Chaparral by Falconer Motorbooks International 1 800 826 6600 is one. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 171 Registered: 9-2002 |
Fantastic bit of history, thank you. I'll have to start reading some more about him. --Dan | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 330 Registered: 3-2002 |
James, What a great story! Hall sounds exremely interesting. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 279 Registered: 10-2002 |
That white car is one of the greatest cars ever made. It was designed and built by Jim Hall. Hall was one of the most inventive race car builders of all time. He was one of the first to realize the intricies of aerodynamics. He was the first to fit splitters, moveable airfoils, and even snomobile engines to create vaccumme under his cars and "suck" them into the ground. His cars were so advanced that his inventions were often banned. His "sucker" CanAm car created so much downforce that it could hang upside down at at rest. A modern FI car needs to be going over 100MPH to achieve enough downforce to do that. The car in the pic is Hall's Chaparral 2F. Hall's cars used a 2speed "automatic" clutchless box which left the left foot free to control the angle of the rear wing. On the straight you put your left foot to the floor and the wing straightened out and gave you top speed. In turns you lifted and it tilted down to give you down force. The radiators were mounted at the sides of the tail. The nose duct took in air witch flowed against a spring loaded panel. At low speeds it directed air up over nose for down force, at high speed it directed air down to lessen drag. This was in the 60ies. The Ferrari Enzo Ferrari is using similar technology 35 years later. When the man who designed the P4 saw the 2F Hall said he almost fainted it was so advanced. If not for the weakness of the "automatic" It's likely the Chaparral's would have won many, many races. I met Hall at the Goodwood Festival of Speed in 1999. At Goodwood they send cars up the hill every 30 seconds. I followed Hall who was driving his sucker CanAm car in my Ford MK-IV. It was pouring rain and Hall was taking it easy and I soon came up upon him. As he reached the turns he floored the snowmobile engines and I could see the car suck down into the turn throwing up a huge spray. It's a sight I've never forgotten. After the race he came over and I showed him my MK-IV. "Cubic dollars, Ford spent cubic dollars. It's so strong. That's why they won..." He said. "But compared to your cars they were much less advanced." I replied. "That's why I quit, every time I beat them they banned me..." | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 169 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jordan, I didn't take the pictures, but that thing *does* look evil. Can you say downforce?  Perhaps Mr. Ausbrook or Mr. Glickenhaus can tell us a little more about the car behind. I should probably make mention that they came from the same website (barchetta.cc) and are property of the rightful owner. --Dan | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 105 Registered: 12-2002 |
Dan, the P4 is awesome! I never realized how tiny it really is. However, what is that ungodly white car in the back of the P4 in the second photo? That spoiler looks rediculous...similar of some rice rockets in my neighborhood | ||
| Jay S. Morris (J_saber)
New member Username: J_saber Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2002 |
Andre, I know exactly what you mean. I drive my car almost everyday and I get that same feeling too. The excitement of the ride. For me, the love comes from the beauty. F-cars are beautiful. But, even beyond the beauty is the sound, and beyond the sound the ride. Hell, a radio, what's that for? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 167 Registered: 9-2002 |
And here it is as a P4:   --Dan | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 166 Registered: 9-2002 |
Here's some pictures of Mr. Glickenhaus' car in its original guise (from the same collection).    --Dan | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 165 Registered: 9-2002 |
Oh dear lord. Barchetta.cc's owner is a fantastic photographer, with the online / editing skills to match. Such BEAUTY! Sensory overload is imminent... --Dan | ||
| Stephen (Steph355au)
New member Username: Steph355au Post Number: 2 Registered: 1-2003 |
Dan/Peter, The photographs were taken at the 1964 1000 km race held at the Nurburgring. Click here for more. http://www.barchetta.cc/All.Ferraris/events-stories/events/2003/schlegelmilch-galleries/nuerburgring-1/index.html | ||
| Andr� Ferreira da Costa (Oporto328)
New member Username: Oporto328 Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2002 |
This post doesn't have much to do these great pictures. But just would like to say that I love ferraris since i was about 8 or 9 years. I really love these cars and the mystic associated with the name FERRARI. What I'm going to say next it's absolutelly true. Even before I start my car, because i don't drive it every day, just thinking about my car(a dream come true) and that I'm going to drive it and hear that sound, my heart beats faster and there's some strange effect that I can't explain. This is really true. I drive regularly a Bmw and a Mercedes and just there isn't that feeling. I only drove a Porsche once (it was a 1994 993)and it seemed like my BMW. very solid, very good car indeed. But no magic. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Intermediate Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2354 Registered: 12-2000 |
Stephen, beautiful pics! Where and when were they taken? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 163 Registered: 9-2002 |
Beautiful. Any more? --Dan | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 99 Registered: 12-2002 |
Great post, GREAT PHOTOS! Look at that 250, that car was driven hard The 250 has to be one of the --If not THE prettiest ferrari ever! | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 893 Registered: 3-2001 |
**True class never goes out of style** Especially with a 250 GTO! That car will NEVER go out of style! | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 328 Registered: 3-2002 |
Those pictures actually do the car justice! | ||
| Stephen (Steph355au)
New member Username: Steph355au Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2003 |
250 GTO - 1964 These photographs are nearly 40 years old. True class never goes out of style   |