| Author | Message | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Junior Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 243 Registered: 10-2002 |
Yellownsx, Jazz is right. The commentator specifically mentioned that the NSX had 500 hp several times. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Junior Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 242 Registered: 10-2002 |
Good work, Jazz. I think the commentary also said that the description of a "bat" means that "it only comes out in the evenings". When the F50 won, after leading throughout the race, the commentary was that "after so many years, the F50 still has no equal". No one complained about the F50 being heavily modified and that the race was unfair. | ||
| yellownsx (Gomaidy)
New member Username: Gomaidy Post Number: 13 Registered: 7-2001 |
Jazz(Breezy)I dont know where you got your translations from, but the NSX-R is stock. Its engine is balanced and blueprinted with a tuned ECU from the factory. Its power is probably close to 300hp, not 500hp. http://world.honda.com/NSX/ | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1047 Registered: 2-2001 |
Thanks for the translation Jazz! The F50 kicked ass! Did anyone really expect anything different? Ernesto | ||
| Jazz (Breezy)
New member Username: Breezy Post Number: 1 Registered: 1-2003 |
O.K. I thought I should make a positive contribution with my knowledge of Japanese language. The driver of yellow 911 Carrera 4S implies in the initial interview that he is a young and inexperienced driver compared to other drivers. I think we can already see that in the video, right? The guy who drives GT500 claims that the car is not really for racing in the track but for street driving. The white NSX has been fiddled around to give huge power of 500hp. Not surprising that it does well. The guy is says that he put the real wing vertical to prevent NSX from over-steering. Now, the Murcielago. Did you know that Mucielago means �Bat�Ein Spanish? Well, apparently it is, according to this driver. This also gives 500hp, and it weighs nearly 2 tons. During the race, the driver keeps saying that its heavy on the corner and the weight is put all on the rear and makes him difficult to control the car. We saw him skidding at corner, right? The silver GT2 was the first GT2 to be introduced in Japan, and they put a carbon ceramic brake for the 1st time. The driver of F50 says that he finds it easy to drive F50, and he is rather surprised with its speed on a straight line. It looks to be that way when you see F50 on the video. All the cars have gone through different levels of adjustments so it isn�t quite fair to use this video as a base for comparison of cars, but it does show characteristics of these cars quite well. That�s about it guys. Nice video! Jazz | ||
| BJ (Bjkim)
New member Username: Bjkim Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2002 |
Those two drivers who drove GT2 and NSX-R are the one of the best drivers among the Best Motoring test drivers. Best Motoring is not very accurate to compare cars. Usually, Japanese cars beat foreign cars. For example, new 350Z beats E46 M3 in a straight line, or Lancer Evolution beats F360 modena on the track. BJ Kim | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 654 Registered: 1-2002 |
Agree with Randy & Rob. I find left foot braking especially useful on longer tracks (like TWS) in my 550 Maranello, which gathers speed so quickly. I don't want to negate all of the speed into some of the fast corners (such as #4, #7, and #12), and lifting can really unload the rear end too much, but left foot braking dips the nose just enough to give extra turn-in grip. I learned this from instructor Randy Aust, who drives a lime-green 348 Challenge there, and used LFB to great effect in turns 1, 4, 7, and 12. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3127 Registered: 12-2000 |
Randy is right, left foot braking is a good trail braking or single gear long sweeping turn technique. The theory is the car won't become as unsettled and in the middle of a turn is the most vulnerable. Sometimes you might even be half on each, which might not make sense to us, but it does to the car. Ever been in a sharp turn and once you got off the gas it wanted to come around on you? Keep on the gas and control speed through left foot braking and not lifting. | ||
| Luigi Gatti (Luigi)
Junior Member Username: Luigi Post Number: 68 Registered: 10-2001 |
Randy: Do you have any idea how it's possible to find volume 2 and 3? TIA | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 541 Registered: 4-2001 |
without analyzing where he left-foot-brakes, I can assume that he's on full throttle or partial and either trail braking or blipping the brake as to unload the suspension going into a turn. that's usually the case. if anyone's interested, I have a few left of volume 1, 5 and 6. some of the other volumes are quite a hot item and I can't hold inventory too long but difficult to justify ordering a few more hundred for a few requests. | ||
| Steven Pham (Stevendp)
Junior Member Username: Stevendp Post Number: 63 Registered: 11-2001 |
Great video!! I noticed that the GT2 driver was the only one that left foot brake when he is not shifting. I always thought that once you have mastered heel-toe driving, left foot braking should be used when you are not shifting? | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Junior Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 119 Registered: 12-2002 |
Thats a neat video, it shows some good heel-toe driving which might help some of us learn to do it better. I never understood the concept when reading tutorials on it, but seeing it demonstrated makes it seem a little bit easier to grasp. I just wish I could understand what they were saying  | ||
| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
New member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2002 |
Yeah, best Motoring is great. I've got a pretty big collection of them now. Of course the ones I have are generally NSX related ;) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 220 Registered: 6-2002 |
I love watching the Best Motoring Videos. I dont care who wins at the end, just love watching them flying around and having fun. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 538 Registered: 4-2001 |
While its not a "REAL" race, it does show quite a bit of car-to-car comparisons rather than the magazine junkies who refer to car and driver's 0-60 times for performance measure. I sell the Best of Motoring Videos, and they are all quite informative and FUN. Don't forget that part of the equation. Not everything must involve a trophy at the end. | ||
| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
New member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 35 Registered: 4-2002 |
I disagree... there can be plenty of excuses with "professional" racing too. ie - team X is better financed than team Y, team Z got the governing body to bend rules for them, and on and on. Plus, the GT class racing cars are enormously modified, so you can't really draw a street car inference from them. Case in point, Corvette C5R vs. Corvette C5. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
New member Username: Psk Post Number: 7 Registered: 11-2002 |
Waste of time ... A race is never fair unless it is a real championship race, otherwise bullsh!t is involved ... like the modified F50, and the Lambo driver not wanting to bend his car, etc. Thus who cares ... I will only be interested if they are REALLY racing ... then the bullsh!t stops and victory goes to the best RACE car. Pete | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Junior Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 218 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have the complete video. F50 was not stock, the Nsx was driven extremely well by a driver with many many miles of Nsx experience, while the Murcielago driver kind of took it easy. Good video though!! | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 134 Registered: 10-2002 |
What a great video...hard to sit still and watch it...very very cool! Love to see more like it! | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Junior Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 137 Registered: 9-2002 |
You should get the guy's on the "ever had any races with a lambo" post to have a look at that!! I think it will prove just who really is on top when it comes to racing and who's the better car!! I can't beleave that NSX! it gave that Lambo a hell of a time. Just goes to show that you can build a world class car for under $100,000 | ||
| yellownsx (Gomaidy)
New member Username: Gomaidy Post Number: 12 Registered: 7-2001 |
The NSX still hangs with the Best of the World Supercars. Not bad for a 12 year old Honda chassis!!! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1024 Registered: 2-2001 |
Nice video! The NSX-R gave the Murcielago a tought time! Ernesto | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 79 Registered: 6-2002 |
F50 is the winner : http://www.runeb.org/www_docs/Jexoticasite/soundandvideo/Best_Motoring-SuperCar_Race.mpg |