| Author | Message | ||
| The Ferrari King (Theferrariking)
New member Username: Theferrariking Post Number: 16 Registered: 1-2003 |
Serio says that is their best design ever. FORZA SERGIO FORZA PININ FORZA FARINA FORZA COLOMBO FORZA LAUDA FORZA VON NEUMANN FORZA ROCCO SEFFREDI King | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 268 Registered: 10-2002 |
King, Now that rings sweet to my ears!  | ||
| The Ferrari King (Theferrariking)
New member Username: Theferrariking Post Number: 14 Registered: 1-2003 |
Ferrari means the best. Everyone aspires to Ferrari. They are the Cadillacs of Italian car world. FORZA FERRARI FORZA FERRARICHAT FORZA SPAGHETTI FORZA EVERYTHING King | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 266 Registered: 10-2002 |
Manu, I agree. Ferrari cars are synonymous with very fast cars. There will always be cars that will want to do that little bit extra, just to go one-up on Ferraris. That is inevitable, because Ferrari is effectively the standard-setting manufacturer in the industry. But that does not mean that Ferrari does not have to stay alert and keep up with the competition. It is never easy to reach the top. It is even more difficult in trying to stay there. | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 265 Registered: 10-2002 |
Ming, Your taste is the same as mine. What else is there for me to say? | ||
| Manu (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 615 Registered: 2-2002 |
I understand what you guys are saying about there being a practical limit to performance and where to use it.. and as I said before, that performance in itself does not define a Ferrari but we all know it's a HUGE part of the appeal.... no Ferrari (when compared to cars of it's era) is SLOW... but they ought to be quick - and I mean all of them should be SAVAGE behind the wheel - endless, relentless acceleration... Think about it :why should a Porsche/SL55/BMW..etc be quicker - (Lamborghini I exclude)???? For the next V12 flagship I want to see 0-100mph times of 8.0s and 0-150mph of 16-18s.... something that you can a truly say, is one of the fastest cars in the world. | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 135 Registered: 5-2002 |
Well said Ben! However, we still would like to have more power/torque/numbers than any rivals in the market as this IS a Ferrari. Don't forget the current 456 is still the fastest 4-seater in the world(please corect me if I am wrong). I would be happy to see retractable top with 4 sets for adult, 6000cc ~550bps+, electronic adjustable damper system and 6-speed F1 standard with 6-speed manual as an option. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Junior Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 146 Registered: 6-2002 |
Everyone who compares Ferrari to other makes with numbers keeps forgetting... The guy (or gal!) in the Ferrari, with that Ferrari-idoit-grin we all know so well, has already won before the race began Even better to see 2 Ferraris going at it, as no one really looses exactly... Best! Ben | ||
| Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
New member Username: Fuiszt Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002 |
Where can you go that fast anymore anyway? Without going to jail? A 700bhp modified supra can whip an F40, but one of them is a mass-produced Toyota and the other is the product of a legendary company that has always combined beauty and performance. I'm saving my pennies (alot of them I guess) for a 456 someday. I sold my turbo supra without regret | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 260 Registered: 10-2002 |
And with the Enzo, Ferrai has proved that they could build supremely fast cars, too. As to the price tag? Well, Ferrari is merely saying, "if you want that kind of performance with a Ferrari marque, you'd better paid for it. Cheaper makes exist, but a Ferrari is a Ferrari." | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 259 Registered: 10-2002 |
I would also agree with that, Ernesto. I think Ferrari deliberately tries not to go to the extremes with their standard "street cars". Not that they cannot do it. It is just that they are trying to be sensible about it. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1086 Registered: 2-2001 |
When you think about, Ferrari has never made the fastest street cars - at least from certain performance parameters like top speed and 0-60. But they have somehow managed to create a driving experience that is unmatched by any other car. Thay also happen to around racing circuits rather quickly. Ernesto | ||
| KCCK (Kenneth)
Member Username: Kenneth Post Number: 257 Registered: 10-2002 |
Manu, I agree with every word that you have said. I would be loathe to race the 456 with other street cars, but I would still hate to see the 456 being chastised for being slower to some other makes. When I saw the latest performance figures for the new Bentleys, Astons, and SL55s, as well as the 575Ms, I had often wondered as to just how Ferrari could expect the 456 to hold its own ground with a performance like this, and a price like that. Now I am beginning to see the answer. The answer is that Ferrari has not been resting in its laurels either. | ||
| Manu (Manu)
Member Username: Manu Post Number: 611 Registered: 2-2002 |
Ross - I'm actually quite pleased to hear that....about the 456 replacment going back to the drawing board..... For the next batch of Ferraris I want there to be ABSOLUTELY NO DOUBT that they are the fastest production cars in the world... there are too many cars faster than a Ferrari out there at the moment and although performance (at least for me) is not the be-all and end-all, I want more of it. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 467 Registered: 10-2001 |
retractable hardtop on a 2+2 will be very costly to developp ! But nice nonetheless. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1736 Registered: 2-2001 |
Ross, Ferrari did the same thing whenit was about to launch the 456GT but the BMW 850 came out which was too close for comfort & at a lower pirce of course | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 604 Registered: 3-2002 |
am hearing that the replacement has gone back to the drawing board both on style and engine since the sl55 and the new bentley have upped the ante somewhat. don't think we see the new 456 in 2003, and probably not till mid 2004. | ||
| Lee Sanders (Lsand007)
New member Username: Lsand007 Post Number: 35 Registered: 3-2002 |
This is chassis # 128776. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 358 Registered: 3-2002 |
Dr. Shelbee, The car in your pics has actually been around for several months. Everytime I see two-toned paint I think of a Ford F-250 or something like it. Not very becoming on a 456 | ||
| RyanK (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 242 Registered: 3-2002 |
That is not the 456 replacement, rather a special edition 456. Forza, Ryan | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1126 Registered: 8-2002 |
Yeeeeeeeah... Now that's what i'm talkin' about...! | ||
| Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
New member Username: Shelbee Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2002 |
Guys, here are the pictures at Mondial de l'Automobile, Paris.    | ||
| RyanK (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 238 Registered: 3-2002 |
Here are the spyshots and other info on the '460' Enjoy!! http://www.ferrariownersclub.co.uk/happenings/2002/november/456_replacement.asp | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1124 Registered: 8-2002 |
William, you wouldn't be inclined to post that spy shot, would you...? Or maybe just point us in its direction...? | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 188 Registered: 9-2002 |
I think it looks best as it is - as a coupe. A retractable hardtop will make what is already a heavy car even heavier. Point in case, the SL55 is 4400 lbs. That's quite the boat. Don't get me wrong, I love the SL, but I think the 456 fills a different purpose. Clearly I'm in the minority here. --Dan | ||
| Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study Post Number: 375 Registered: 10-2001 |
I second that vote! Nice car but needs to keep up with the MB. Retactable hardtop is the new "gold standard" in front engine sports cars. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1078 Registered: 2-2001 |
LOL... Will is gonna love THAT! Ernesto | ||
| RyanK (Ryanab)
Junior Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 234 Registered: 3-2002 |
I heard word that the front end somewhat resembles the 360 modena. Yes, a retract roof would be great! | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1730 Registered: 2-2001 |
Saw a spy shot of a heavily clad 456 replacement test mule in Automobile. Lets hope it gets a nice retractable hardtop like the MB 55SL |