| Author | Message | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 264 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wasn't that a Pagani Zonda on the Amazing Race II? If I had been in that situation I would have INSISTED on driving that rocket myself! Heck, what's all that talk about Lambos when you can pilot that car (as an alternative to F)! | ||
| Vince (Manatee)
Junior Member Username: Manatee Post Number: 112 Registered: 6-2002 |
Adam, You might want to mention that being Pagani is the new kid on the block should bring them more than the usual TV coverage for the first few races. Good Luck ! | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 622 Registered: 10-2001 |
Jon, I'd love to come back north, at least to VIR. Paul has his engine back and I believe he is in the process of getting the subframe back into the car. I spoke with Glen at Daytona back in November and he was looking forward to having that weekend to work with Paul. | ||
| Adam (Eldiablo_viper)
Junior Member Username: Eldiablo_viper Post Number: 92 Registered: 7-2002 |
I'm working on sponsorship for Pagani Zonda that will run in American Le Mans and Le Mans 24hs. I can tell you that it is very hard to find sponsors. I have some demographic info from 2000 season. So if anybody is interested please contact me at [email protected] Gender: 61% male 39% female Age: 18-24 7% 25-34 13% 35-44 29% 45-54 30% 55+ 17% Marital Status Married 66% Single 34% Audience: 60% college graduates 23% with annual income over 100K per year Average income 70K per year Average age 39.9 years old Education: High school graduate 37% Some college 24% College graduate 37% Occupation: Employed 78% Retired 22% Household income Greater than 35K 71% Greater than 100K 23% Television reach extends to 300 mil homes worldwide via Euro Sport and ESPN network. TV channels broadcasting: Fox Sports net, NBC Sports, CBS, Sky Sports, Speedchannel, Euro Sport. American Le Mans web site got 30 mil visitors during race season in 2000. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 263 Registered: 10-2002 |
"Household incomes in the stratosphere, well educated, well connected" ...oops I forgot we're talking Ferraris and F1 here and not NASCAR... sorry, couldn't resist ;-) | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 110 Registered: 11-2002 |
Sponsoring a waste? Motorsport can be a bargain. What's your products or services market? Household incomes in the stratosphere, well educated, well connected, cash to invest, companies to network, clients to entertain? Ferrari Challenge is a very small niche, but has benefits. IMHO | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 324 Registered: 10-2002 |
According to Autosport the cost of sponsoring all motorsports has come way down even F1. There are probably several reasons for this but it isn't a great sign. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 260 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'd say unless a F shop is promoting itself, it is a bit wasteful. And even that is doubtful to get much of a response. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 146 Registered: 4-2001 |
do you guys think being a sponsor for one the challenge cars is a waste at this point in time? | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 257 Registered: 10-2002 |
 Might be only 20 cars, but would hate to loose that awesome sight! | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 340 Registered: 11-2001 |
sorry..wrong thread.  | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Junior Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 109 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jon is on the money about money to run 360 Challenge. $250K for new chassis, $250K for maintenance, preparation, testing. Does not include major crash damage. I ran three cars in 2000. I wish FNA would organize like in Europe, Shell Ferrari Challenge that welcomes all: vintage, 308, 328, 348 Challenge, 355 Challenge and 360. Private team preparation is allowed. FYI, FNA is bringing Maserati Trofeo here next year, 2004. I received this information direct from Maserati. I beleive it will be lease deal with self-contained preparation by FNA. Truly arrive and drive. | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
Junior Member Username: Challenge Post Number: 59 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jon, will do. Thanks...I have always wanted a run in a 355C. I'll email you beforehand. Congrats on the new addition to your family. Take care! Kevin | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 346 Registered: 8-2001 |
Greg, Likewise! Nice to hear from you. Are you coming back north for some track events this year? How's Paul P.'s engine coming along? Last I head he had it shipped to Glen at Washington Motorsports. Regards, Jon | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 620 Registered: 10-2001 |
Jon, nice to see your name on the board again...it's been a while. It was good to meet you at Watkins Glen! | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 345 Registered: 8-2001 |
Kevin you are welcome to a ride at the FOW event. I may only do one day so email me about a week or so before hand as I will know then which day. The FOW event is probably your last chance for a ride this season as my wife and I are expecting a child in June and that will end my race/track season until at least late fall. Regards, Jon PS: Tell Pino I said hello! | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
Junior Member Username: Challenge Post Number: 58 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jon, I would love to ride in that beast of yours at the spring FoW track event. Joseph (355 from Chambersburg) said it was the real deal. Can you hook me up? Kevin | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 344 Registered: 8-2001 |
The Challenge series was in serious trouble last year as the field of cars dropped from 60 some cars in 2001 and two race groups to only 18 cars at the midpoint of last season. Indy has been dropped because Tony George never liked the CHallenge series running there and he made it prohibitively expensive to run the cars at Indy. There were only 20 cars in the field at Indy and FNA had to beg some folks to bring their cars out that were not even running in the series at the time to make a full field. There was talk at the end of last season of folding the series. Ferrari of Washington ran 8 cars in 2001 but only had one signed up for 2002 and had to team up with Algar who also only had one car at season's start. The costs are nuts. People in 2001 were bringing backup cars. At the Glen in 2001 a Championship contender wrecked his car in practice, wrecked his backup in qualifying and then tried to buy another competitors car for the race so he wouldn't loose points. Who can afforf to spend 600K on cars for one race weekend. The general concensus is that 500K was needed to run at the front (assuming you had any talent). This included the car. For that money you can race in Grand Am with real racers or run a budget Formula Atlantic season. The level of talent in the Challenge series doesn't warrant that kind of dough! Peterson and Gralia who both ran away with the series are backmarkers in Grand Am and ALMS. Regards, Jon P.Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 | ||
| Howie/ExoticAutoBrokers.com (Brokerofexotics)
Member Username: Brokerofexotics Post Number: 339 Registered: 11-2001 |
Martin, Homestead was dropped this past year as well.  Perhaps they should change it to a Ferrari-Lamborghini event. Now that would be fabs. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3609 Registered: 5-2001 |
They also dropped some of the last year races off the callender since the series championship was decided. What they need is to run the series in co-share events. Bring more publicity to the event. Heck I don't get any info on when the series runs here in Miami. That has to be better promoted. I know a ton of people that would love to go down to Homestead and watch the races in the grandstands. Bad management if you ask me. | ||
| Kevin Butler (Challenge)
Junior Member Username: Challenge Post Number: 57 Registered: 9-2002 |
The # of people participating has dropped. Two years ago at VIR (355C & 360C races) there were tons of cars. Last year it dropped. You notice the same thing at track events. Terrorism, uncertainty, and the economy have forced many who were not "old money" to back off participating in such expensive recreation like the series. | ||
| Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member Username: Rumordude Post Number: 112 Registered: 9-2001 |
well, last year they introduced also a shortened series commitment from the different teams -- you could chose to do the whole series, or do just THREE of the races. My suspicion is that the costs are getting too high for most people and interest is waning somewhat so this wouldn't surprise me. | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 614 Registered: 10-2001 |
I noticed that the US Ferrari Challenge Schedule contains far fewer events that the 2002 schedule. Does anyone know of the reason or is it to early in 2003 for the full calendar. Specifically, I noticed that Road Atlanta and Virginia International Raceway were gone. |