| Author | Message | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
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My friend has a 996 and is beating the living daylights out of me when we drive fast. My car does not stand a chance. I used to own a 911 Turbo Targa and that car was super fast as well. Both cars were lacking the prancing horse. Without that, you will never get the feeling of pride. To me newer Porsches are cars made for the female sector. This is why they came up with the Tiptronic. Now even a 15 year old can drive that car. Very little driving experience. Quality? ...please, the car is a plastic bomber. Every little piece is made from grade A plastic. If you want leather you have to buy the $20,000 leather package. We got that included in the price of our cars. | ||
| James Dixon (Omnadren250)
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Peter, I agree with you on the blandness of the 996 turbo. They have now made the car too refined and boring, even the NSX is more thrilling to drive. In the past, porsche produced some very exciting cars, such as the 944 turbo and 930 (911 turbo). The thing that made the 911 turbos so appealing was the fact that they were not as refined as some of the other sports cars on the market. Lets face it, the 911 turbo came out in 1977 and essentially remained unchanged until 1995. My dads 1994 turbo 3.6 is basically the same car as a 1978 model and it kicks ass. They were notorious for kicking the back end out when being driven on the edge and were regularly described as "scary to drive" by many magazines. Now, the whole 996 range looks like the boxster, and porsche have yet to come out with any sort of semi auto gearbox like ferrari has. And to make matters worse, they are selling more than 65% of the new turbo cars with that horrible tiptronic system. It really is a shame that they have "sold out" and marketed the turbo model to the posers instead of the performance driven buyers. I can't really see myself ever buying a porsche product after the 993 turbo, in fact, I would rather buy my dads turbo 3.6 which is much more fun to drive. James | ||
| Peter S�derlund/328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
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Charles, oops, a swedish "false frind". Assembly quality and i would like to add bad mechanical design which causes a lot of problems. Ciao Peter | ||
| charles (86mondial)
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In the last 12 months i have had a 2000 996 cab and a 2000 rt/10 viper. both are sold. the 996 is sterile. no emotion. bland looks. the rt/10 is fast as hell and nothing more. neon interior. if you want old men to come up to the car to talk about drag racing, cruising in grand nationals (whatever they are), and lee iococca the the viper is for you. what does german build quality mean? they don't break? | ||
| Peter S�derlund/328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
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I drove a 996 turbo a few months ago. I must say that I was not impressed. Yes it has a lot of power and very good brakes but it lacks feeling and communication. I think its more of a GT car than a proper sportscar. Regarding quality, Germans are number one in interior assembly. Interior assembly is what journalists refer to when they talk quality. For me quality is more than that. A mechanic who works with both italian and german cars told me that german built quality is hugely overestimated. BTW, AutoItalia has made a test between 328 GTS -88 and Porsche 911 Carrera 2 Cab -90. Ciao Peter | ||
| Mike hughes (Mph)
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Porsche 911 History, Factory codes. US models only 964 built 1990 - 1994 993 built 1995 - 1998 996 built 1999 - currently After owning both, I can assure you the 911 is superior in eveything other than drawing attention. 964's and 993's were built more by hand then the current 996. That is why the 996 feels mass produced, because it is. In my opinion the 993 is the finest 911 ever built. Drive a 450hp twin turbo and your Ferrari passion will slightly subside. Still, the Ferrari is like a high maintenance woman, know you should dump her but every time you go for a ride you can't imagine not having her. | ||
| charles (86mondial)
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My Porsche was too common for me. It lacked personality or fun. Even the Porsche dealership is boring compared to our local Ferrari dealership. I don't drive the car everyday but will put 3000 miles on my 328 per year. | ||
| Stewart Chung (Navygakman)
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I have had my Ferrari for many years now and just this year I picked up my 2nd 911 (my first one was a 911SC back in 1980). It is a 1991 964 C-2 (if I had wanted to pay more, I would have gotten a 993 wide body, which I like better). It has a tiptronic since this car is for my wife. The 964 in most ways is superior to my 308: - Quicker, faster, more responsive - Easier to drive, much less effort - More reliable - More comfortable - Cheaper maintenance - Better gas mileage - Everything works Plain and simple, it is a better car. But my passion is still with the Ferrari, despite of all the perpetual problems and the continual drain on my pocket book. The pride of owning a Ferrari is way stronger than owning a Porsche. Partly because of the Ferrari culture, tradition and mystique. Partly because Ferrari is not a mass production car like the Porsche. Everyday car: Porsche Weekend car: Ferrari Viken is right on! | ||
| Julian Pham (Julian_Blk348)
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Viken, You're assessment is absolutely dead on ! | ||
| Viken Bedrossian (Vikenb)
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I'd get the 993 if you're going to drive it regularly or the 328 for occasional driving. The Porsche is much more reliable and dependable but may not be as exciting as the Ferrari. | ||
| Julian Pham (Julian_Blk348)
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Not sure about the 993 ('95-'98), but I recently sold an '88 911 Cab for a '92 348ts. No comparison at all on the thrill scale... a "7" for the Porsche and a "10" for the ferrari! OK so I'm biased... still can't believe I actually own a ferrari  | ||
| charles (86mondial)
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sold my 2000 carrera last march because it was boring. the top that came down with a single button was cool but it was too antiseptic. my 86 mondial got more play and sounded better. awaiting delivery on an 87 328 with 9000 miles. i bet i will like it more than the carerra. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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The 90's 911 might have picked up quite a bit of mid range acceleration. I don't remember which publication, but about 6 months ago they did a comparison between the 328 and a 911 of that same era. The 911 had a much better 0-30 time, and the 0-60 was close, but all the moving acclerations from 20 on up, the 328 would have a full second advantage. Personally, I would rather have the moving acceleration as it's more pratical. I'm not driving a Camaro off the stop light. How often does a road racer accelerate from a stop? Never, except Le Mans and SVWC style starts. R&T does give more aggresive numbers for the Carrera Cabs. 0-60 at 6 seconds. | ||
| Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
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Rob, I believe that the 993 body was made from '93 or '94 and ended in '99 with the water-cooled 996 model. I do not love the 996 style-rear is not wide enough. The 993s have the sloping headlights and are the last of the air-cooled breed. | ||
| Steven J. Solomon (Solly)
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I own a '96 911 C-4 cabrio (993 body) as my daily driver. 286 hp, lots of torque, smooth and quiet. I use this when I need to recover my frayed nerves after a few hours in the Ferrari. A well-driven 911 of this year or later will beat any 308/328/348 off the line and down the stretch, and the 4 wheel drive Porsche will out-corner all the above. The build quality is way superior. Nevertheless, I don't get a visceral rush in the 911 that I do in the Ferrari. If it is within your means, I recommend having one of each, and experiencing both ends of the sports car spectrum. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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I'm not the Porsche expert, so what years was the 993? Here are my initial stats from R&T... June 1995 R&T - 1995 911 Cab. 270 hp, 243 torque, 6.4 0-60, .93 G 1987 R&T - 1987 Ferrari 328 GTS 260 hp, 213 torque, 5.9 0-60, ? G Similar performance, although the 328's time is documented, I think it's a little aggressive. I would guess the 911 to be quicker off the line and the Ferrari to pull better down the road. As far as design I don't think anyone can argue they are both a decades old, but one of the most classic designs. The Ferrari has held it's value better. The 911 cost $73k back in 95. See, I learned my lesson, I didn't say the Ferrari would kick it's ass, although, come on, what does your heart say you would rather have? | ||
| Ron Dallas (328infoseeker)
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The deck is stacked here. My $5.00 is on the 328. Oh, sorry just returned from two days at the casino! | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
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Dang it, can't you wait a few days to let me recover from the last "vs" war, plus, this one is close to my heart. May your gas have water in it and your 2nd born drive an American car. | ||
| jim galli (Galli)
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DROVE A 993 CAB TODAY LOVED IT ALOT OF HP AND SMOOTH LET THE FUR FLY | ||
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