| Author | Message | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 207 Registered: 9-2002 |
There was a 340MM Vignale Spider at the Hillsborough Concourse (yes, Hillsborough si the place to be! :D ) in 2000 or '01, I forget. Either way, between it, the 250 GT CA spiders, muiras, 250TRs, etc. - my brain nearly exploded. Surely heaven. Such beautiful beasts in my own town! Of course I'm sure it was comprised of all sorts of Bay Area locals (and some from further away). --Dan PS: James - thanks for the tip. I did notice the large 'scoop' in the roof as the door opens. I'll bear the running-motor tip in mind should I ever buy one.  | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 206 Registered: 9-2002 |
There was a 340MM Vignale Spider at the Hillsborough Concourse (yes, Hillsborough si the place to be! :D ) in 2000 or '01, I forget. Either way, between it, the 250 GT CA spiders, muiras, 250TRs, etc. - my brain nearly exploded. Surely heaven. Such beautiful beasts in my own town! Of course I'm sure it was comprised of all sorts of Bay Area locals (and some from further away). --Dan PS: James - thanks for the tip. I did notice the large 'scoop' in the roof as the door opens. I'll bear the running-motor tip in mind should I ever buy one. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 662 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, There were, to my knowledge, only four 340MM spyders bodied by Vignale. They are: 0280AM, 0284AM, 0324AM, and 0350AM. Of these, both 0324AM and 0350AM have the dark blue/white paint scheme that was the official colors of U.S. entered race cars at the time. 0284AM had a blue and white paint scheme at one time as well but has since been completely rebodied into a Touring-style barchetta by Fantuzzi and no longer resembles the other cars at all. 0280AM, however, currently has a two-tone red and silver paint scheme and can be seen here: http://www.barchetta.cc/german/pirro/SN/0280AM/340.MM.0280AM.Dijon.078.htm In addition, Vignale bodied several 166MM and 250MM spyders in very similar coachwork. You might be interested to take a look at some of these as well. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1349 Registered: 8-2002 |
It's unusual for me to like something like this, but the Ferrari 340MM Vignale spyder looks kinda nice... The two curved "windshields" (if you can call them that) look awesome and even the extractors on the side give the car some personality (although the book's author(s) think they look like crap)... The problem here, is that the car is two-toned and really looks horrible in these two colors- i tried finding a picture but was only able to find a picture of the same exact car in the book...! Anyone have a picture of this car in red (or some other, one, solid color)...? Mr. Ausbrooks...? Mr. Glickenhaus...? Mr. Rainbolt...? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 359 Registered: 10-2002 |
The doors of the MK-IV include a big scoop of the roof so you can step onto the seat and drop in. The P4 doors swing wide but don't include as much of the roof so it's a bit harder and the Lola doors are gull wing so it's harder still. Later Lola's had fold forward door's to make it easier but I like the way the gull wing doors look. One thing you never want to do is to climb into or out of one of these cars with the motor running. If your pant's snag the gear shift as you climb in you can kill yourself. | ||
| James (Jim_red308)
Junior Member Username: Jim_red308 Post Number: 51 Registered: 3-2001 |
Did any of you notice the error on page 165 of "The Complete Ferrari"? At the top of this page it refers to strange head gear worn by the driver and passenger of this 1985 308 GTS (refering to picture to the left - which is clearly a 328. A great book nonetheless. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 203 Registered: 9-2002 |
James, I can't seem to find the pictures (it was from a for-sale kind of website), but if I can find them I'll post them up. It's very interesting that the cars are right hand drive and right hand shifting - do you find it's a problem to get in and out of the car gracefully as such? --Dan PS: The white GT40 at BJ looked quite sharp. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 357 Registered: 10-2002 |
Dan I suspect the photo negative was flipped. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1346 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jeff, thanks, that's really interesting... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1345 Registered: 8-2002 |
Yes we can, Anthony, i'm right there with you... L. Wayne, thanks, again... is there anything you don't know...? (like- why are Entenmann's boxes so difficult to open...?) So basically, a Grand Tourer is a car that you can take on a long trip without sacrificing comfort, but you can still get there a day or so before everyone else...? These leather straps that help "retain the hood" on the 195 are buggin' me out- could you imagine something like that, today...? This is a clear indication of how far the automotive industry has come... Also, that some Ferraris were made with "scrap metal" like old signs and what not, and the pieces they used to put the cars together didn't always match- that blows my mind...! Some of this stuff goes right over my head (engine details, etc.) but the other stuff is pretty interesting... | ||
| Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Junior Member Username: Miltonian Post Number: 69 Registered: 12-2002 |
Industrial Decentralization: basically, a program instituted when the Allies were bombing Italy (including Ferrari's factory in Modena) during World War 2. Move the factories apart in order to keep them from all being bombed at once. Ferrari took the opportunity to move his operation to Maranello. Expanding on L. Wayne's definition of "Grand Touring", in 1962 the FIA, under Appendix J of the Sporting Code, instituted classes for Touring, Improved Touring, and Grand Touring for the Manufacturers Championship. By definition, "Grand Touring cars are those built in small series, offered for public sale, and may have special bodywork, as long as the chassis, engine, and all other main components are cataloged and produced at a rate of not less than 100 units in 12 consecutive months." So Ferrari's GTO (Gran Turismo Omologato) was homologated as a special-bodied version of the 250GT to compete in this class. | ||
| Anthony_Ferrari (Anthony_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Anthony_ferrari Post Number: 103 Registered: 11-2002 |
I always thought of a GT car as the one I would drive from my luxury Monaco appartment to the race track somewhere else in europe and a sportscar as the one I would drive when I got there! We can all dream! | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 657 Registered: 8-2002 |
Grand Touring. According to the Dictionary of Automotive Terms: "Gran Turismo: (GT) A car which combines the features of both the sedan and sports car. It features excellent engineering and road handling with relative comfort. Made in two-seater and four-seater models with cramped rear seats. grand Touring: (GT) See Gran Turismo." Check out this article from Forbes for someone else's opinion: http://www.forbes.com/lifestyle/vehicles/2001/12/24/1224feat_8.html. To me, when you are applying the term to a road car, it means a 2dr car that combines performance with comfort in a manner that is well suited to high speed driving, but not necessarily to quick and nimble maneuvering. Think like this: the 550 Maranello is a GT, while the 360 is closer to being a pure sports car. The truth is that most modern sports cars provide a high enough level of comfort that the line is not so clearly defined as it was years ago. It used to be that the sports car was light and minimalistic while the GT was heavier and more luxurious. As for race cars, it usually refers to a class of cars that are based on or strongly linked to a production model. The exact requirements differ with each individual governing body. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1343 Registered: 8-2002 |
L. Wayne, thank you so much, i really appreciate it... But what does Gran Turismo mean...? i tried researching the Industrial Decentralization Law, but thus far, to no avail. i figured James would be the first person to answer my racing question (thanks, James - i wasn't aware that there were that many cars in a race or that they're allowed to just choose any number they please) & Anthony, Mike said the book has a slew of errors (i'm still too 'out of the loop' to tell), so you're probably right... Mike, i found some spelling errors in the beginning, too... i'm not near the level of knowing what all of you know, but even if there are errors in here, surely all the models are correctly identified (right...?), so at least i'll pick up on that information... Also, Mike, my book is copyrighted by Salamander Books, Ltd. 2002, A Member of Chrysalis Books, plc. i think someone mentioned that it's possible that more than one book contains this title, as mine has pictures (and text) regarding the 360 (so pretty )- a red and yellow coupe and a red and silver spider (pages 178-181) in chapter 8, 'The 308 & Successors'. However, there is no mention of the 550 (or the 575 or the Enzo, considering it was copyrighted in 2002, you would think they would've at least known about it then and could've at least mentioned them- not that i'm complaining). By the way, James, i was out in the car, before and i had a racing question i wanted to ask you, but now i can't remember- when i think of it, i'll post it. (i have a Monica memory- it sucks!) | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Junior Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 52 Registered: 10-2002 |
DES, Groovy book--I just got mine yesterday (after two months of being backordered or wait-to-be-published-before-shipping on Amazon). But I've got to tell you, it's a beautiful book with beautiful pictures, but the quality is poor, and the production values are also poor. In 1/2hr of reading, I was saddened to find typos, spelling errors, and a lot of text that I SWEAR just makes NO sense at all! What are these guys thinking? Who writes this stuff? Keith Bluemel's other book that I own (Original Ferrari V8), while a bit dry, is one of the best in my collection. If I were him, I'd be embarassed to have my name on this one  . What is strange is, the 456 is pictured, but not the 550 or the 360, even though the book is copyrighted in 2002. One of the passages in the text reads as if it were written in the early 90s, before any "real" information was available about a particular car (don't recall which one), while of course now there should be plenty of information available... Strange, it seems way out of date for 2002, so, best I can figure is, Keith Bluemel updated it as best he could... Another nit? The 308GTS is actually featured in the section BEFORE the "308 and later derivatives" section, but not in the section itself... I know this sounds like I'm being a brat about the whole thing, but I'm really sensitive to this stuff. People put crap together, put Ferrari on it, and expect people to buy it... Well, I took the bait! The pictures redeem it, just don't look for too much depth in the text. Kind of like some adult magazines I know! Happy reading, --Mike | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Junior Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 201 Registered: 9-2002 |
James, I saw an interesting variation to your car, then. Two GT40's (the serial numbers escape me) - both cars were left hand drive, with left-hand shifting. Any insights? --Dan | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 347 Registered: 10-2002 |
Anthony is right. Clockwise. That's the reason for right hand drive right hand shift on race cars. Some rt hand cars do have center shift but right hand shift is easier for most people. That is also why P cars still have ingnition switch on left of steering wheel. At LeMans you used to have to run across the track, jump in, start up and go. Left hand started car while right hand grabbed a gear or steering wheel. My Lola, MK-IV, and P4 are all right hand drive, right hand shift. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 677 Registered: 12-2001 |
Nope. The deal on the car in Fla. fell through, as discussed at some length in a thread here a couple months ago. There is one car, near Phila., that was cut by Mssrs. Scaglietti & Co., with a euro-plexi nose, in yellow/black interior. Car has been well maintained by a collector, i'm told there is some paint bubbling, and while the engine is probably OK, it hasn't been redone in quite a while. That car interests me, although, i actually prefer the flip-up lites. Anyway, i would want to sell my barchetta, which is the real hold-up, since the market for them has gone south. Rather than lose money on it, i'll keep it for now, or until the market improves. Still amenable to interesting swaps, but haven't found a suitable Daytona for such a deal, in the hands of someone able and willing to make a swap (for their car plus money, of course). | ||
| William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 125 Registered: 6-2001 |
wm hart.... Did you ever find a Daytona Spyder conversion? | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 676 Registered: 12-2001 |
Speaking of Bluemel, when (L. Wayne) do you think we will see his next installment of "Original" Ferrari 12's, starting with the boxer? BTW, Des, a book that will literally knock your socks off is CAR's History of the Supercar. Not all Ferrari, starts with the Muira, ends with the McClaren, and in between, lots of beautiful photos, reprints of original (and largely well written) reviews, and retrospectives on where each car fits into the larger evolution. | ||
| Anthony_Ferrari (Anthony_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Anthony_ferrari Post Number: 100 Registered: 11-2002 |
The book states, and i quote: "Early Ferraris were all right-hand drive, because most races are run anti-clockwise." DES, I think this must be one of the mistakes in the book. Nearly all race tracks run clockwise. This obviously means mostly right turns, so if you're sat on the right you can see the apex. I think of current F1 circuits just Interlagos (Brazil) and Imola (San Marino) run anti-clockwise. Certainly all the old circuits like Monza, Silverstone, Spa, Monaco, Brands Hatch etc run clockwise. Hope this helps. If you have any money left I would heartily recommend the book 'Enzo Ferrari' by Richard Williams. It's a great read. I believe the guy that made the film 'Ali' with Will Smith has the film rights and a film of Enzo's life is being worked on. This should not be used as an excuse to not read the book though!! | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 587 Registered: 4-2001 |
oooh, the 166 sport picture should have gone in the 'identifying odd Ferrari's thread'. just not too common at all. | ||
| Frank K Lipinski (Kaz)
Junior Member Username: Kaz Post Number: 108 Registered: 11-2002 |
#2 I'm guessing weight distribution to the outer wheels - Similar to oval track cars using wider tires and rims on the right side of the car. Anyone? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 653 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, last three: 1. Regarding odd serial numbers, during the 1980's, Ferrari abandoned the practice of using only odd serial numbers on the road cars. 2. Regarding right hand drive and counter-clockwise racing, this is a question for someone with racing experience. Anyone? 3. Regarding the Industrial Decentralization Law of 1943, I don't know so why don't you research it and get back to us with the answer on that one? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 652 Registered: 8-2002 |
Here's another: Regarding Cortese's car being numbered "128," don't you ever watch racing? That was the racing number of his car in that race. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 651 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok, here are two easy ones: It's MON-dee-all and DEE-no. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 650 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, here's one set of answers. Now let me read through the rest of the posts. 1. The official title of this model when it debuted was actually the "250 GT Comp./62" and the individual build sheets for the car refer to the body work as "Scaglietti berlinetta comp. 62." Ferrari did not use the name GTO. There is actually quite a long story regarding Ferrari's struggle to get the new car homologated for racing by making it out to be little more than an updated version of the existing 250 GT SWB, but, nonetheless, they were successful and the term "omologato" in Italian means "homologated." Apparently, at some point or another the car was mentioned in a memo to the press as the 250 GT-O, meaning the 250 GT that had been homologated, and a typist copying the memo mistakenly left out the dash. The English speaking press began referring to the car as the "GTO" while, back in Italy, the term was still unheard of. Eventually, though, it caught on and the car has been referred to as the 250 GTO ever since. And that's the SHORT version of the story! 2. The nose of the GTO has three D-shaped panels that can be removed to increase radiator airflow during slower driving conditions. If you look closely, you'll notice that the underside of the nose has three identical openings that supply air to the oil radiator. 3. Well, this one is arguable due to the fact that some of Ferrari's first customers used their cars as dual-purpose machines. Even so, the first Ferrari that was clearly built for road use only would be 166S coupe s/n 005S (see picture here: http://www.barchetta.cc/german/pirro/SN/005S/166.Inter.005S.002.htm ) which was presented at the 1948 Turin Salon and even featured a sunroof! Even this car was eventually raced at least once. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1342 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok, another obscure pondering... The book states, and i quote: "Early Ferraris were all right-hand drive, because most races are run anti-clockwise." Ok; anti-clockwise, to me, suggests that a majority of the turns (or curves) in the race would be left turns (or curves). Now i've never experienced g-forces, but we've ALL experienced centrifugal force and this tells me that in a right-hand driven car, making mostly left turns is more difficult than making those same terms in a left-hand driven car. Granted, i've never driven a right-hand drive vehicle, however, left-hand turns (or curves) in a left-hand driven car seem easier (at high speeds, etc.) than right-hand turns. Is this making sense...? Just wondering- i'm sure some of you who've raced cars on tracks could correct me or demystify this theory i've got going on in my head. Thank you... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1341 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, i suffer from L. Wayen co-dependency...! Yes, Barry, but as Mr. Ausbrooks pointed out to me, i have the updated version; authors Hicks & Bluemel... As for the pronounciation on Mondial- i'm assuming the acccent is on the first syllable...? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 649 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, relax. I'm at work right now and don't have time to answer all of your questions. As soon as I get home I promise that I will read all of the posts and answer anything that hsn't been answered by our fellow F-chatters. | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 375 Registered: 2-2002 |
"Mon-dee-al" They're consecutively numbered now | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 374 Registered: 2-2002 |
DES, I see you have Hick's The Complete Ferrari. Yes, it lacks a bit in description. I like the British wit, though. At first, I thought you had Eaton's book by the same name. Anyway there's a wealth of information on the subject out there. This is a good start. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1340 Registered: 8-2002 |
No, Barry, i AM reading the text... that's all i'm doing is reading the text, but then they have these side notes referencing the different pictures and as i read the side notes, i see things that don't coincide or i find things in the regular text that i have to question... i kept reading with regards to the 125S, but to no avail- the answer to my question has not appeared yet. i could wait until i get to the end of the paragraph to post my inquisitions, but posting each question as it forms serves several purposes; one of which is to not have to use my incredibly weak memory to flip back through the pages and try and recall all those things i wasn't sure of... i never liked old cars- even cars from the 80's and early 90's have to be pretty special for me to even consider their value, but to look at these things and read the history and such is a different experience, entirely... Granted, i still don't like them, but knowledge does foster a tangible appreciation. | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 373 Registered: 2-2002 |
DES, after absorbing all the pictures, read the text. You'll get your answers there. I know what you're experiencing now. I have the book too. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1339 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok, maybe this one is for L. Wayne... On May 2nd, 1947, Franco Cortese drove the 125S Ferrari, on its debut; why then, do the big numbers on the car read 128...? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1338 Registered: 8-2002 |
Do road-going Ferraris still bear odd-numbered-only serial numbers...? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1337 Registered: 8-2002 |
Anybody know anything about the Industrial Decentralization Law of 1943, in Italy, which was a direct cause of Ferrari's move to Maranello...? i could research this on line, i'm sure, but i'd prefer to keep reading. Thanks... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1335 Registered: 8-2002 |
LMAO, Arlie, that i knew... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1334 Registered: 8-2002 |
Barry, thanks... what about question 1 and my trivia question...? i need all the information i can get... & while i'm at it (and i've asked this once before) how do you pronounce Mondial...? You know what, since i'm here, i'll ask another one...? Since the Ferrari Dino is named after Enzo's first son, Alfredino, is the car called a Dino (die-no) or do you pronounce it how it was pronounced in his name, Dino (dee-no)...? Thanks for the help, everyone, i really appreciate it... This is still so exciting...! | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 639 Registered: 5-2002 |
But keep in mind DES, the 250GTO has six circular shaped zeros after the first digit of the price tag. | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 372 Registered: 2-2002 |
Yes, DES, those are removeable fillers on the 250 GTO. Keep up this enthusiasm. | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 371 Registered: 2-2002 |
Wow! Are you ever happy with that book! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1331 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ok... Here's where the questions start rolling in... 1). GTO (Gran Turismo Omologato)- what does that mean...? Grand Touring, i assume, but then what is grand touring, exactly...? 2). On the 1962 Ferrari 250 GTO, there are three half circle vent thingies in the front of the car. However the 1963 Ferrari 250 GTO has those same vent shapes, but they're filled in. Are those removeable parts or what...? What was the deal with this...? My last question is a trivia question (i might as well since i'm reading this stuff ). What was the very first road-going Ferrari...? Thanks in advance, everyone and i'll be back later with more questions... | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1180 Registered: 7-2001 |
Ok, my bad. The book I got was "Ferrari, 1947-1997" by Antonio Ghini. Show's how much attention I pay to details. That lack of attention to detail just cost me $100 for a replacement lens for my car. My lens is all amber, the one I bought is amber and white! DUH. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1303 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, You know Bluemel...? Is there anything you DON'T know...? Yes, both Hicks & Bluemel are listed as authors... L. Wayne, the book is tremendous, i had to get several people from the book store help me carry it out to the car...! Errors & misinformation doesn't sound like too much fun but at least i'll be able to properly and successfully identify models... Thanks for the link, i'll make the purchase right now... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 648 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, it's been a long time since I've picked up this book but I do remember that it is full of errors and misinformation. Still, it's at least a start in the right direction for you. I recommend that you pick up "Ferrari" by Hartmut Lehbrink and Rainer W. Schlegelmilch. It is a massive book full of gorgeous photography and sells for around $35. It's also much better organized and I remember it being fairly accurate as well. Believe me, you will be more impressed with it than with the Roger Hicks book: http://www.motolit.com/3895080764.html While searching for that link for you, I found that the latest version of Roger Hicks' book also lists Keith Bluemel as an author. Mine does not. I'm curious if he went through and made corrections to the book. If I can remember, I'll ask him later. Does that copy you have list both Keith and Hicks or just Hicks? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1997 Registered: 6-2001 |
"Tim, it's awesome...! (shouldn't you be studying...?)" yeah i should have been. last night i took out my history book, stared at the first page for about 5 minutes and then put it away. my bullshitting skills are starting to get very refined, eliminating the need for me to read. I hear "the original Ferrari V8" is also a very good book, ihave yet to look at it though. DES, you should also consider a subscription to "Forza". Alot of people here like it. I've read an issue or two, but have never gotten around to subscribing. | ||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Junior Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 144 Registered: 11-2002 |
I HAVE THAT BOOK Sdaly, it only goes to the F40 | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 875 Registered: 6-2001 |
Des: That is a good book, but its light on the V8s. The "Original Ferrari V8" is a good book to add to that book. There isn't (I don't think) a newer book on the V8s which covers the 360s. Art Chambers | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1289 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, i started reading it last night, i didn't go to bed 'til 2:30, i was over an hour late for work this morning... i can't wait to get back home and continue reading it... i'm so stoked to know that all this information is just sitting there, waiting to be learned...! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1172 Registered: 7-2001 |
I got the same book for Christmas DES, it's great fun to look through. | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 573 Registered: 4-2001 |
I looked at the book this evening. Its a large book, lots of great pictures. Hardback, not sure why it was only 24.95 though. Didn't look at it too much. Another recommendation, seriously...Cannonball by Brock Yates. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
New member Username: Psk Post Number: 35 Registered: 11-2002 |
Or a 348 and Testarossa hehehe Pete | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1283 Registered: 8-2002 |
Tim, it's awesome...! (shouldn't you be studying...?) | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 1993 Registered: 6-2001 |
i guess i should pick up a copy. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1279 Registered: 8-2002 |
ROFL, exactly...! | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Junior Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 202 Registered: 9-2002 |
Nice...now you will be able to tell the difference between a 512BBi and a Testarossa ;) | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1276 Registered: 8-2002 |
For Christmas, a friend gave me a $25 gift certificate to Borders books. Since i had been to two different Barnes & Nobles and couldn't find any books on Ferraris, i figured this gift certificate presented the perfect opportunity to check Borders. They had nothing, either, but said there was one that they could order; just one. Anyone have any clue as to which one it was...? THE COMPLETE FERRARI...!!! They called me last night and told me it came in, i just picked it up, tonight- This book is HUGE and has SO MANY pictures and ALL SORTS of information...! i'm gonna know stuff now...! WOHOOOO...! Right now, i'm looking at a picture of the Dino 206SP sports prototype- Jesus Kennedy Christ, this is a baaaaad machine...! Do you all realize what this means...? Do you...? Huh...? i'm gonna know what you're saying...! When L. Wayne posts, i'll actually be able to read what he says...! & this isn't just a book, NOOOOO, this is a freakin' collector's item...! When i'm done reading this, i can put it with the rest of my Ferrari stuff...! Can you imagine...?!? This thing is tremendous- it's like 14" x 17", i mean, i have to put it on the floor and lay down just to read it...! The pictures are HUGE and in FULL COLOR- the color's so bright, i had to turn the light off in here...! This is like- a moment in history...! i'll never forget the day i got this book...! Ok, i need to calm down... (THIS IS SO EXCITING, YEEEEEEEAH...!) |