| Author | Message | ||
| PSk (Psk)
New member Username: Psk Post Number: 49 Registered: 11-2002 |
The only use for it now is as a static display in some museum ... other than that another movie may want to trash a Ferrari and this would be a good place to start  Pete | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 643 Registered: 5-2002 |
More importantly, even if somebody bought that car and got it running, how could it ever be titled and licensed in the U.S., seeing as how it is a "Non U.S." car? DOT, EPA papers, etc??? | ||
| Ed P. (Ebp)
New member Username: Ebp Post Number: 14 Registered: 12-2002 |
Didn't Nicholas Cage trash a car like this in a movie recently also? | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 96 Registered: 7-2002 |
Wayne I saw the car during development as a trackday car over the last couple of years (QV are about 15 miles from where I live and I buy parts from them and they do some work on my 355). Sometime ago I noticed it was no longer in the workshop and asked where it had gone and was told about the Bond film (they also organised the Blue 360 for the movie), it was due to be thrown out of a helicopter and never intended to be returned to the road as the previous history might cause embarrasment for the breaker who sold it (my understanding is that Ferrari are very strict about the mule cars being broken up) ultimately the Film company used CGI so the car wasn't wrecked and maybe thats why there's an element of secrecy. When QV got the car it was basically a tub with no wings but as previously stated had some unusual features including the engine mounts, steering arms, Intercoolers and front radiator (they still have a few of the bits). The car was fitted with a sump, transmission case, dash etc for filming. Ultimately what triggered me was the sellers comment "All you big Ferrari fans must have seen something in the last few months like this car that made you groan with pain before your eyes....yes, THIS IS THE CAR! " hence the Bond connection and then also the sump/transmission etc I called QV this morning and posted what they told me | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 666 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mark, how do you know this about the Bond car? If this is that car, why would you suppose that the seller would leave that as a "mystery" as opposed to exploiting it? | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3682 Registered: 5-2001 |
figure this way: headlight assembly retail $ 3,295 each Front spoiler $ 4,500 rear bumper $ 4,000 4 wheels $ 3000 hood, lid, body parts and there is your value. You can also hang it on the wall. | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 491 Registered: 4-2002 |
Some people will buy any old sh@t. | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 95 Registered: 7-2002 |
Some more interesting info The car was the one used in the latest Bond Movie, I'm 99% sure of that. The car came to the UK from an Italian Breaker and almost certainly was a factory development mule, it was I'm told entirely straight ie no accident damage, when it arrived it had some unusual features, whilst the chassis was a 348, the engine cradle was more like a 355 but with unusual engine mounts, the car had been running a turbo engine with a front mounted radiator, in addition the front steering was non standard and fitted with a similar system to a Nascar racer suggesting it may have been used for long distance testing on an oval, possibly the Nardo ring? The transmission is just a case (no internals), the wheels are all scrap on the inside edge (cracked and squashed) Lastly the car was Red, it was painted by the film company | ||
| billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Junior Member Username: Fatbillybob Post Number: 149 Registered: 8-2002 |
What a POS! This would cost more to get together than a new 355! It needs more than an engine for 6k. That would be the cheapest part. I hate when people even try to find stupid people to buy such a thing. Jut try to find parts for a 355 look 348. He must be crazy. You don't even know if the chassis and body are straight enough to make a race car. | ||
| Luke Wells (Coolhandluke)
New member Username: Coolhandluke Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2003 |
maybe it's the yellow "355" that got crushed in "the rock" with nick cage ;) | ||
| Robin Overcash (Robin)
New member Username: Robin Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2003 |
Maybe I'm seeing things, but in the front 3/4 pic, it looks like the rear wheel is waaay under the fender, as if it was the narrow track of a 348 with wider 355 panels. Not sure why anyone would bid on this actually... -R | ||
| ducati 916 (Ts_348)
Junior Member Username: Ts_348 Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2002 |
the clear fog lights are euro style from a euro 355 | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Junior Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 166 Registered: 9-2002 |
Oops; just looked at the pic again..The front does appear to be correct. But the clear lights are wrong. | ||
| Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Junior Member Username: Tbakowsky Post Number: 165 Registered: 9-2002 |
Looking at the engine bay pic it does appear to have a 355 six speed trans and the muffler is most defenatly 355. The dash looks correct aswell as the interior door panels. But the vin makes no sense at all. The front lower bumper is all 348 wrong lights and grill. This car I think was involved in a serious collision at some point in it's life. | ||
| Ken Thomas (Future328driver)
Member Username: Future328driver Post Number: 257 Registered: 12-2001 |
Maybe it is the pic resolution, but the hood does not look like it has any "cut-outs" for the pop-up head lights. | ||
| Jere Dunham (Questioner)
New member Username: Questioner Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2003 |
Have not been able to get a fix on the production number yet but it would have to be a 1989 model. YOu know, if we look deep enough, the production number may be to another model altogether. Maybe the vin no is a compilation of all the models used to piece this thing together. And the mystery grows deeper. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 669 Registered: 10-2001 |
The notion that this "car" was used in the Bond movie has merit. It may have been cobbled together at the factory out of "spare parts" and donated. Ferrari has no money (neither did Aston Martin a few years ago) to pay for use in a movie, but if the car was donated by the factory gratis then Ferrari gets the exposure and the film gets a cool car. The cars in Goldeneye was a different situation; Aston Marin got a free ride and I'm not sure the story on the Ferrari. | ||
| Jere Dunham (Questioner)
New member Username: Questioner Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2003 |
Guys, The vin no is bogus. If it were a 348 2.5 motronic the fourth digit would be F. A 348 2.7 motronic would be R. A 348 early euro would be K. A 348 Euro late would be U. A 355 2.7 motronic would be P and the 355 5.2 motronic would be X. None of the above match. It reads the letter N which translates to a 308 2V injected Australian. Nothing matches. 41 designates a 355B and B a LHD European. Where did he dream up this vin. And then with no title????? Give me a break. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
New member Username: Psk Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2002 |
Okay it appears to be a 348 from the text, but is he trying to say that it is a motor show car, Ferrari used to show the 355, by tarting up a 348 Challenge? Or some sort of 355 test mule? Why not tell us?, as that is its only selling point. How similar are the 348s and 355s? I would need to trace the REAL chassis number back to the factory before bidding ... probably a scam. Pete Edit: Marks post sounds like the deal ... but who gives a toss if it was used in a movie, and trashed? ... does that add value? | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 94 Registered: 7-2002 |
hmm it sounds like he is referring to the car used in the latest Bond movie, if this is the case then it didn't go back to the factory to be converted but was built up from I believe a wreck by QV London in Ascot UK, initally it was going to be a trackday car but the film company made an offer they couldn't refuse, if you look in the pics it has a sump pan fitted to give the impression to the cameras that it had an engine I'll see if I can confirm the VIN tomorrow and if it is the car what the more recent history is! | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 140 Registered: 10-2002 |
So we've got a ball park figure on an engine. How much for a complete interior including every inch of misc. trim? I bet that once again the cost of bringing this car up to a "safe" and proper running order would cost more than just buying a correct and ready to drive 355B. Why would anyone bother? I bet those body panels and headlight assemblies are worth more in pieces than bolted to that mystery shell. | ||
| djmonk (Davem)
Junior Member Username: Davem Post Number: 162 Registered: 1-2002 |
Looks like yellow overspray in the wheelwell too | ||
| Jere Dunham (Questioner)
New member Username: Questioner Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2003 |
Breakdown of vin as follows: Z-Country of Manufacturer-Italy F-Marque-Ferrari F-Manufacturer-Ferrari N-Engine type-308 injected 2V Australian A-Passenger protection system-3 point belt 41- Model or body F355 Berlinetta B-Market for car-LHD European 0-Outside USA 0-Not used-non USA car 0-Assembly plant-Maranello 082328- Production number How about a F355 of unknown year model that came with an Australian 308 2V engine that is a LHD European? Source of info: FML Volume 26 Number 2 27 January 2001 | ||
| Paul Wehmer (Pwehmer)
Junior Member Username: Pwehmer Post Number: 61 Registered: 10-2002 |
He keeps mentioning this mystery about the car and how special it is. If I was looking to buy something like that (which I sure am not) I would want him to just come and say what it is instead of playing games. Looks like a low return money pit as far as I can tell. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3676 Registered: 5-2001 |
The VIN is a EURO VIN The hood is a 348 hood The dash is 355 but the instruments look like 348. The steering is 348 | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 179 Registered: 5-2002 |
then on second thoughts, how did he get those pictures? look real enough | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 178 Registered: 5-2002 |
what will the scam artists think of next??? | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 357 Registered: 3-2001 |
Funny!!!! I noticed that just after I posted it...otherwise I would have said something. Good number huh?? Good call!! | ||
| izel k. (Ferrarist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarist Post Number: 70 Registered: 3-2001 |
Hey Matt! Your post number is 355 | ||
| izel k. (Ferrarist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrarist Post Number: 69 Registered: 3-2001 |
VIN shows that it's a F355 berlinetta with 308/Mondial engineand i doesn't show the model year (if i'm not mistaken). How possible is it? If you check the pictures carefully the car has a F355 type dashboard but 348 type steering wheel and speedo, tach.,... panel. It's mysterious and probably an ebay scam , i agree with you Jon. | ||
| Matt Karson (Squidracing)
Member Username: Squidracing Post Number: 355 Registered: 3-2001 |
As all the running gear is not in the car....what are the rear wheels holding on to?? | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1668 Registered: 9-2001 |
TRutlands has brand new in the crate 348 engines for $15,000.00, so you may be able to get a used one for $6-10K . If it is a real 348, it is worth $6k in salvage value. | ||
| Jon P. Kofod (95f355c)
Member Username: 95f355c Post Number: 390 Registered: 8-2001 |
"I have made contact with several individuals who have loads of parts and even a decent engine can be had for around $6,000.00." Total baloney! Not even sure it's a 348. A decent engine for $6000 who the hell is he kidding. What are you going to get for $6000 a GM crate motor??? I think the whole post is yet another eBay scam. This guy has the car parked under a car port, give me a break. I think he stole the VIN# of a car he saw in the parking lot. Regards, Jon P. Kofod 1995 F355 Challenge #23 | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Junior Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 139 Registered: 11-2002 |
Does anyone know anything about this car? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2400695443&category=6212 |