| Author | Message | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 102 Registered: 6-2002 |
Martin, einen bestimmten Verk�ufer habe ich nicht, es reicht wahrscheinlich, wenn du erz�hlst, wie du auf den Wagen aufmerksam geworden bist  . Vielleicht gibt es dann einen kleinen Bonus, falls ich mein neues Auto dort kaufen sollte . | ||
| Jerry W. (Tork1966)
Member Username: Tork1966 Post Number: 391 Registered: 7-2001 |
Not to exaggerate, but that GTO is the coolest car in the history of the universe. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3751 Registered: 5-2001 |
Wird gemacht. Hast Du einen bestimmten Verk�ufer, den ich anhauen soll? | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 101 Registered: 6-2002 |
Martin, if it becomes a good deal for you and the dealer, do not forget to mention me. Perhaps i will buy my new car there this year. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3738 Registered: 5-2001 |
Jens, thanks. Figure it this way: The 255 will be 214,200 without the MWST. So same deal! Ansgar, thanks. I will be in touch with them this morning. | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 100 Registered: 6-2002 |
Roel, you are right ! | ||
| Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
Junior Member Username: Spawnz Post Number: 110 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ah, found one.  | ||
| Roel de Fouw (Spawnz)
Junior Member Username: Spawnz Post Number: 109 Registered: 6-2002 |
If I'm not mistaking, the yellow lotus elise featuring in these pics is actually a (or rather 'the') Lotus Esthi. They actually took an audi RS4 engine (2.7l Biturbo, 380hp) and dropped in in this lovely yellow elise. The engine just barely fit in the small engine compartment. I believe the LOTUS name on the back is actually cut out to provide some ventilation, preventing the engine from overheating. I'll try and find a picture of it. (engine) This thing should be a blast to drive. PS: I love the 288GTO too, hehe | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 99 Registered: 6-2002 |
Just loading them up, the pics are here (but only for short time): http://aschuermeyer.bei.t-online.de/288GTO.zip | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 98 Registered: 6-2002 |
Martin, Phone number is: Germany 02533/534, Fax: Germany 02533/538. If you want bigger pics, i have them in 1600x1200. The car looks very good, but i am not the best expert to rate the engine . | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Junior Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 216 Registered: 9-2001 |
Martin, Hope you don�t mind me answering! Brandes&Dschüdow is a dealer with a very good reputation mainly for Lotus here in Germany. The 288GTO is a bit too expensive IMO but as quoted from them was the first ever imported to Germany and has only 28000km run which is not too much! Additionally it seems to have a perfect history. Anyway as far as I can remember Bonham&Brooks auctioned one at the Oldtimer Grand Prix 2000 at the Nürburgring 2002 and sold it to a young british collector for 215000 Euro. So that was what I call a good price after all. If you want to have a look at their homepage: http://www.brandes-dschuedow.de/angebote/detail.php3?kat=&id=1271 Their homepage is quite good and also quotes their tel.number. If you want me to have a look at the car: Will be at Münster somewhere at the end of the week! Anyhow guess Ansgar would do you this favor as well! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3733 Registered: 5-2001 |
Ansgar, do you have a phone number for them? Telefopn, brauche ich unbedingt. Habe zwei Kunden, die Interesse haben. Grüsse Martin | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 112 Registered: 1-2002 |
Ansgar I am already on a four year waiting list, so I do not need another one Rijk | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 820 Registered: 4-2002 |
Yeah, even as an owner of a 308GT4, I'd have to say that TRUE Ferraris have 12 cylinders. PS, the 288 is my favorite Dino also. Probably more so than nearly any 12 cyl. car. | ||
| JP Lavigne (Jpl)
Junior Member Username: Jpl Post Number: 57 Registered: 12-2001 |
Oh, OK. So he lives in a different world than the rest of us... ;-) As for the prettiest Dino....I would have to go with the 156. Small light, well balanced, aggressive looking yet in a good way, fast and succesfull....too bad they were all destroyed. Prettiest Dino that is not a Dino. The european 308GTB. Sergio nailed it...lines that will never look bad. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 369 Registered: 10-2002 |
Wayne The Dino 206 S storming through Campofelice at the 1966 Targa wasn't hard to look at either... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 677 Registered: 8-2002 |
JP, Frank's following the line of reasoning that the modern V8 Ferraris are direct descendants of the Dino line (which they are) and that they are not true Ferraris as they are cylidrically deficient. In addition, he's just trying to get everyone's goat. By the way, Frank, I disagree. The F40 is the best Dino of all. I take that back, the 246SP is probably the best Dino, but the F40 is definitely up there. | ||
| JP Lavigne (Jpl)
Junior Member Username: Jpl Post Number: 56 Registered: 12-2001 |
Frank, Why are you calling the 288GTO a Dino. The car in question is a Ferrari 288 GTO, the last Ferrari to be called a Dino by the factory is I believe the 308GT4. According to a rep that I spoke to at the factory a few years ago, there were plans to introduce a sub brand line of cars under the Ferrari Dino name, but management rejected the idea on a number of reasons, one of the biggest being that NA didn't like the idea. There is enough confusion with the older cars regarding their names/numbers/authenticity etc, why would you want to add confusion to people looking at this site. According to the Ferrari Factory it is a 288GTO, not a Dino 288 GTO. You wouldn't call a 308 (other than the GT4), 328, 348, 355, 360 or the upcoming 420 a DINO. If you do well then you are adding a name that the factory dropped almost 25 years ago. | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 94 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jens, mal schauen, ob er bis dahin da ist . Sonst muss ich mich wohl mit einem der F50 begnügen . Wenn es klappen sollte, geb ich rechtzeitig Bescheid. | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Junior Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 200 Registered: 9-2001 |
Ansgar, Ein Ferrari w�re natürlich nicht schlecht. Bring am besten den Enzo mit Scherz beiseite, natürlich braucht man für das Treffen keinen Ferrari mitbringen. Schau doch einfach mal in die Ferrarichat european section. Dort gibt es ein thread von mir mit dem geplanten Programm, der Zeit und den geplanten Kosten. Würde mich freuen dich dort zu sehen! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 93 Registered: 6-2002 |
Congratulations Rijk, you are right. It is the Wiesmann Roadster MF 3,2 with the "old" M3 Engine (321 HP). Very nice car and very rare too. If you want to order a new one, there is a waiting-list for roundabout four years. | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 110 Registered: 1-2002 |
A Wiesmann Roadster? I think it has an M3 engine and a very nice interior with the instrument layout of a Lusso | ||
| Randy (Schatten)
Member Username: Schatten Post Number: 602 Registered: 4-2001 |
I gotta go. must... get... clean... underwear! I just love the 288! | ||
| Evan Jones (Jonesn)
Junior Member Username: Jonesn Post Number: 57 Registered: 8-2002 |
That last one is a Josse Car, right? They went out of business a few years back. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1478 Registered: 8-2002 |
It looks so sad sitting there. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 671 Registered: 10-2001 |
Great GTO! Nice to see the Lotus' too. The Elise is really a modern Europa! | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 92 Registered: 6-2002 |
Hallo Jens, eigentlich wollte ich bei Brandes + Dschüdow nur ein paar Bilder vom GTO schiessen. Ein neues Auto ist dieses Jahr zwar bei mir geplant, die unten liegen aber preism�ssig leider nicht im Rahmen. Der H�ndler ist ja fast um die Ecke bei mir, dort stehen eigentlich immer ein paar nette Kisten rum. Bin mal gespannt, wer den Roadster als erster Nichtdeutscher erkennt. Bezüglich Juni am Nürburgring muss ich mal schauen, wie das terminlich bei mir passt. Interesse ist auf jeden Fall vorhanden. Ein Ferrari ist ja hoffentlich keine Voraussetzung, sonst müsste ich erst noch bei jemanden aus meinem Dorf in die Tiefgarage und einen Wagen "ausleihen" . Dann k�nnte ich mit 288 GTO, F40, F50, 360 Spider, 550 Maranello, 360 Challenge oder vielleicht sogar schon einem Enzo aufwarten. | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Junior Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 199 Registered: 9-2001 |
Hallo Ansgar, Etwas Spezielles in Münster gesucht? Genug Auswahl scheint man dort ja zu haben! Das mit dem letzten Auto behalte ich wohl für mich. Bin mal gespannt wer ein deutsches Exoten Roadster mit BMW Motor kennt Hast du vielleicht auch Lust im Juni am Nürburgring vorbeizuschauen? Wird bestimmt eine ganz nette Sache. Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 99 Registered: 7-2002 |
Des Looks like a MkII Elise to me (the silver grey one not the bottom pic!) | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 1417 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ansgar, fourth picture from the top, there's a silverish/greyish car off to the right- what is that...? This Ferrari is AWESOME and the color on it is just astounding... The Elise looks a lot better at full scale than the 1:59 i have- i wonder why...? & the car you're asking people to guess at the bottom, appears to me, to be a Jaguar... | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1680 Registered: 9-2001 |
IMHO the 288GTO is the best Dino of all. Period. | ||
| Ansgar Schürmeyer (Taunus)
Junior Member Username: Taunus Post Number: 90 Registered: 6-2002 |
For 255.000 Euro it's your's !         In the neighbourhood, a 380 HP Elise (powered by a Audi RS4 Engine), good for nearly 200 mp/h:    The other neighbours:     Austin Healey MK III:  Guess people, what is this !   |