| Author | Message | ||
| Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari)
Junior Member Username: Nuvolari Post Number: 112 Registered: 9-2002 |
Hi Randal, I don't mean to hijack the post but with regards to a carbon fiber intake for the 308 we will most definatly not be making one. The reasons for this are simple. 308 owners (remember there are not a lot of cars out there) are generally more interested in preserving originallity then bolting on performance goodies. Effectivly there is no market among the 308 crowd to justify the high tooling and development expenses. Not only that, carbon fiber does not at all fit the period look for a 308. We are however looking at 360 and maybee 355 systems as these more modern cars more fit the look and image of carbon fiber. There are also more of these cars around and the owners tend to be more performance oriented. | ||
| Matthew F (Mateotnt)
New member Username: Mateotnt Post Number: 22 Registered: 7-2002 |
It IS junk. So is the magnetic thing you're supposed to put on the fuel line to "align" the molecular flow of the fuel. These things add as much performance as an air freshener. I like Horsefly's description below.  | ||
| Peter Polasek (Peterp)
New member Username: Peterp Post Number: 37 Registered: 8-2002 |
Theoretically, it could work because reduced turbulence results in a denser air flow that would overcome the disadvantages of increased resistance. I think where the theory breaks down is that in order for it really work, it would need to be uniquely designed to match the exact characteristics of each's cars specific intake -- and this would be a laborious tuning process (if it even works at all). There is no way the generic informercial design could be specific to each car. The car manufacturers COULD design to there specific models -- so the fact that they haven't done this is pretty strong evidence that the theory doesn't pan out in the real world. | ||
| Randall Booth (Randall)
New member Username: Randall Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2003 |
Tazio--Off topic, but if your company develops engineered carbon fiber performance intake systems, are you going to be having anything for a 308 anytime soon? | ||
| Tazio Nuvolari (Nuvolari)
Junior Member Username: Nuvolari Post Number: 110 Registered: 9-2002 |
If you are convinced that this works, I have a lovely bridge you may be interested in buying. My company develops engineered carbon fiber performance intake systems and we have run every test under the sun on this product. After real world testing and CFD analysis the verdit: Junk | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
Junior Member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 86 Registered: 11-2002 |
Well, i dunno about this one. I tried the 'draining the water out of bottle' via swirling it trick and damn if doesn't really work - water really does flow out of the bottle a LOT quicker than just turning it over and hearing 'glug-glug-glug'. Of course, translating that to air into the engine might be an entirely different animal...in that case you have air fighting air, which is not near the density diff that you have draining water out of a bottle. Intuitively, kinda nags at me that there might be sumpin' here, but on the other hand, you just *know* this thing is a rip. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3711 Registered: 5-2001 |
well, they don't have one for my cars. but I guess a Ferrari is a toy not a vehicle. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Intermediate Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 2064 Registered: 6-2001 |
Less airflow=less fuel injected=better gas milage. Just like everyone else, im pretty sure it wont increase HP. Mark will know | ||
| Chris Richardson (Boozy)
Junior Member Username: Boozy Post Number: 250 Registered: 11-2001 |
Seems like it would create less airflow. More resistance to moving air. I guess that would give you better mileage but you're dreaming if you think you'll get better horsepower. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 350 Registered: 9-2001 |
Can't remember where I saw the test but the cookie cutter looking one ("creates the vortex") and it produced no change. - JMG | ||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 671 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>>Of course when one is driving a high performance Ferrari that costs more than many people's house, I'm sure that saving a few pennies on gasoline is foremost in one's thoughts.<<< True, however one can live in their car, but they can't drive their house!! | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 658 Registered: 5-2002 |
It is scientifically designed to create a whirling vortex of air that vacuums cash right out of your wallet. Of course when one is driving a high performance Ferrari that costs more than many people's house, I'm sure that saving a few pennies on gasoline is foremost in one's thoughts. | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Intermediate Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 1507 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ditto Fayyaz. It's not doing anything forced air induction isn't alreay. | ||
| Fayyaz Vellani (Fvellani)
New member Username: Fvellani Post Number: 11 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ive heard that its basically junk... | ||
| Nebula Class (Nebulaclass)
Junior Member Username: Nebulaclass Post Number: 156 Registered: 11-2002 |
Have you ever heard of CAFE? It stands for "Corporate Average Fuel Economy." Essentially, the Fed will give huge incentives to manufacturers if the average fuel economy of all the models they produce is below a certain number. I think the key is to get around 23mpg CAFE or something..... Anyways, if this thing worked, you can bet the Big Three would be installing them on all the cars they produce. As far as I know, there are no productions vehicles equipped with a device like the Tornado. I could be wrong, though..... | ||
| Johnny (Up2nogd)
Junior Member Username: Up2nogd Post Number: 120 Registered: 8-2002 |
I was watching speed channel today and they were discussing a device called the "Tornado". It is suppose to increase HP by 5-10% and also give better gas mileage?? Don't chew my head off, I'm just wondering if anyone has ever heard of or tried one of these things - the idea kind of makes sense --check it out http://www.tornadofuelsaver.com/info/ -- they said they made one to fit every vehicle -hmmmmm think I'll see if that includes a Ferrari! Johnny |