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Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb

Post Number: 385
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, January 30, 2003 - 7:31 pm:   

Martin,

FML has a nice reprint available on the US Version 1976 308 GTB Fiberglass. He lists the 100 by serial # and their last known whereabouts.

Barry
Ric Rainbolt (Ricrain)
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Username: Ricrain

Post Number: 447
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 2:03 pm:   

There were no glass GTS's. There were US glass GTBs and Euro glass GTBs. IMHO, if you're paying the premium for a glass car, go the extra foot and get the euro so you can have the dry sump, less "hokey" ignition and lighter chassis.

'glass Pros & Cons:

Lighter
No Rust
Possibly more value stability
All early carb cars had a heavy clutch, fixed by production parts changes (mid-79?).

Late GTB (Steel) Pros & Cons:

Late (mid-78 and up) Euro GTBs have a superior ignition system (no points, single distie).

If you want the glass car for track use, then certainly get the euro.

My steel 79 Euro GTB did a 14.2 quarter and zero to sixty in 6.4. Glass cars should knock a couple of tenths off both numbers. Not stellar, but faster than the US cars, and certainly faster than my pre-modified US 81 GTSi. :-)
Randall Booth (Randall)
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Username: Randall

Post Number: 36
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 1:44 pm:   

Kinda off topic.... But what do you all think of the 288 gto kits for the 308/328 cars? It seems to me an easy way to solve the rust problem, although it does kind of ruin the original car.
Ken (Allyn)
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Username: Allyn

Post Number: 688
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 1:05 pm:   

Thanks for the thoughts. As a note on fiberglass: my 1972 Europa's fiberglass is far too thin. It has a tendency to stress cracks and costs more than a (steel) 308 to paint. Owners typically spend $7000 for a first rate job. This has given me a somewhat negative opinion of old fiberglass cars but it seems Ferrari's bodies were far better made and have stood the test of time. I like the lightness and lack of rust worries.
Dom Vitarella (Dom)
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Username: Dom

Post Number: 45
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 12:17 pm:   

Quick question, for informational purposes only:

Were there any fiberglass GTS's made, or were they only GTB's?

I thought there were only GTB's made in fiberglass, but remember reading something ahwile ago (don't remember where-may have been an internet posting) that suggested there were also some GTS's made.

Dom
Dave L (Davel)
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Username: Davel

Post Number: 225
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 11:46 am:   

Get the glass. The Ferraristi at the time screamed and ruined a nice good lightweight glass car. The steel cars as everyone knows WILL rust sooner or later. Now the entire market is composite crazy and at one time both Lotus and Ferrari were leading the way in 76.
The glass 308's are of very high quality and have a superb reputation as far as the plastic panels go. Martin's car looks like a good driver.
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
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Username: Miami348ts

Post Number: 3758
Registered: 5-2001
Posted on Wednesday, January 29, 2003 - 6:19 am:   

Barry 100 US Versions?

Are you sure?

Keith in his Original V8 said the last VIN is something about 10 up form mine 19743 but I have seen a list recently that shows many more US 308 Fibers, close to 2000 Vins in the 308GTB register.

Do you have any docs for the 100 US imported? Would be important because my car is a US Fiberglass.

For sale BTW asking $ 29,900 will let go for less. Needs some work though.
Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
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Username: 308gtb

Post Number: 384
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 10:06 pm:   

Ken,

I have a US version fiberglass GTB. The GRP panels are extremely well made and have held up well over the years. My car is straight and still has its original paint with only minor checking. I have also driven a steel version on the same day and noticed the difference.

There are only 712 of them (100 US versions) and so they have commanded a bit of a premium. They have indeed done well, showing a steady increase in value this past year.

I agree with Jay that a good choice would be the Euro dry sump version.

Barry
J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jay

Post Number: 1045
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 9:29 pm:   

Ken, I would go for the fibreglass car. I've been in one right after being in a steel car and you can definately tell the difference, that is if both are running right. The glass car is much lighter. I think that the fibreglass cars will hold their value obviously because there were fewer made. The quality of the fibreglass is excellent from what I've seen. 308's that are steel usually have rust over the wheel wells and the rocker panels. If I could I would get a Euro glass car with dry sump.
Bill Steele (Glassman)
Junior Member
Username: Glassman

Post Number: 155
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 9:15 pm:   

Ken,
About five years ago I saw a 308 Fiberglass with an asking price of $65,000. I know they go for much less today. But in Ferrari less is better, and there are less Fiberglass so more money.
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn

Post Number: 686
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Tuesday, January 28, 2003 - 7:07 pm:   

I'm interested in the pros and cons of a carb 308 with the original fiberglass or a contemporary (more or less) steel carb version. Do the fibergalss panels remail true? Is rust a big enough issue that steel is inferior? This question assumes condition, miles, records etc. are already taken in to account. If there is a price difference, is it worth it? I'd like to hear from owners of both with actual experience.
Thanks; not that I'm about to pull any triggers but I'm curious.

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