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DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 1:19 am:   

No, Brett, go to California...! It's like a separate country, all by itself...! NY is nice, but i've grown somewhat tired of it... Snow sucks, no matter where you are, though, so i know how you feel...
Brett Summerer (2tall)
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Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 1:08 am:   

DES:
To make a long story short, I didn't know any better when I graduated (2 long years ago :-) ), and now I'm at UofM, so I can't leave yet.

Other than that, I just have my family, my girlfirend's family, and the North American International Auto Show keeping me here. I own some rental property in the state, but I can leave it behind without any difficulty (I have someone else manage it).

Assuming I do finance when I graduate, I'll be moving, but it'll be to NY or Chicago, so I'm still in the snow belt. Once I've got enough investments I'll probably move down south (or at least have a place up here and down there). TX is looking like a good candidate.
Brett Summerer (2tall)
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Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 1:03 am:   

Tony:
As a matter of fact, I did attend MSU for my undergrad and grad. I'm at UofM for my MBA now. How did you know? Did you go there too? Did I date a friend of yours :-)

DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Sunday, February 23, 2003 - 12:35 am:   

Damn... i didn't realize you had a bull until Rich mentioned it, Tako- it's not in California blue with a navy interior like your 360 spider, is it...? That would just be too cool...
rich (Dino2400)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 11:25 pm:   

Tako? Ah ha! I thought that list of cars looked familiar. Glad to see you got a Ferrari! Working your way up from the Z3, but what do you buy next? Hard to top the Murcielago.

-another Rich who knows
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 9:34 pm:   

Cute! and Acrobatic! How does he brake?? hehe.
Scott Stokes (Desert_trojan)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 8:38 pm:   

14 months...'90 TR...

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Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 7:44 am:   

Brett,
Did you go to MSU?
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 1:33 am:   

Brett, you have a lot of worthless pieces of paper- with all that worthless paper, why not move out of the snow belt...? Unless of course, your business relies on snow...
Brett Summerer (2tall)
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Posted on Saturday, February 22, 2003 - 1:00 am:   

I bought a (new) 2001 Viper and 2002 Escalade last year before I turned 26, all due to my own money, *after* I paid off all my college loans (again by myself). Bummer is that if I grew up outside of the snow belt a 360 wouldn't be a problem to own. It's that whole 2nd car thing that screws me.

For those who asked how:

I did grad school with IT emphasis. More importantly, I then worked *salary* 100 hour weeks (never again, mind you) which got me promoted to where I am today.

Doing MBA in Finance at top ten full time, working full time, investing in real estate part time and setting up a couple businesses in my spare time. Doesn't leave a whole lot of me time :-)

Had I to do it over again, I would have done an undergrad in Finance and a JD. They're where I am now with 1/2 the work...

I researched the path to riches a lot these last few years and that's the easiest way to riches I know of outside of lucky entrepreneurship (there's always a healthy bit of luck involved with a sucessful startup ran by someone under 30 or so...).
RANDOLPH MADAMBA (Pogibm)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:19 pm:   

if you make $250k a year dont try to spend $300k, bottom line dont spend more than you can afford.
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:17 pm:   

G.Peters, couldn't have put it better myself.

Your 4 year old is lucky to have you for a dad!

Best!
Ben.
G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:55 pm:   

All this talk about work and who makes what makes me so glad I'm done working. My wife and I sold our options almost 4 years ago and have never looked back. In parts of So Cal $250,000 a year isn't a great deal of cash after housing and taxes. Couldn't imagine living anywhere else, it was 72 today. We have the beach ,skiing a hour away,the desert a hour away, great restaurants.

For the other poster who would not give their child a fast car to drive when they themselves drive something quick , I have a question? Why would you not give your child something as good as what you drive. Do you go out to dinner and order a rib eye and make your kid eat spam ? As long as you have raised them well and they have gone to a proper driving school what's the problem. My four year old already owns a kadet kart and will start to compete in a year .So by the time he get's his street license a fast car will not be a surprise to him. The theory that they should suffer so they will appreciate what they have to me is BS. Teach them how to invest , teach them to participate in helping those less fortunate then themselves , but let them enjoy life when they are young. Your life could be cut short like the people in the club last night .

WFO
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:45 pm:   

LMAO, Matt...!

That's fine, just so long as it's not a Prancing Horse... :-)
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:44 pm:   

tim, i hear what u r saying but keep in mind alot of the people who live here have been here for 5, 10, or 20+ years and probably couldnt afford their house if they had to buy it in todays dollars...the barrier to entry is much higher now that it has ever been...just as a gauge, the 2 bedroom co-ops in White Plains they just built are going for for $250 to $300,000, and those are apartments...it ain't cheap
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:34 pm:   

We need a animated gif of a stick beating a horse.



Disclaimer: no animals were hurt in the writing of this thread
Tim N (Timn88)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:32 pm:   

Westchester is really explensive to live in, but $250k should be way more than enough. Average income in my town is no where near $250k, not even close at all.infact, its so far awawy from there that its over the horizon. this is despite the fact that there are some people living in it that are freakin loaded. This is not to say i live in a dump, its got to be one of the nicest towns to live in, and property taxes are ridiculously high. Its not like rye or scarsdale, but more community like i think. no gated mansions or any of that crap.
Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 8:58 pm:   

LOL Tako, like you're not making at least $250k a year
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 8:47 pm:   

you meant that $250,000 is what recent undergrads are making? I know some MBAs who come out making that from grad school but not from undergrad...i thought you meant in general if someone makes $250,000 then they are well off...i live in westchester and in the nice parts like scarsdale and rye, a mortgage on a 3,000 sq ft house plus taxes will run you $12,000 a month easy, that's your $250,000 salary after taxes...that's my only point

and with the ivy league thing, i NEVER said it is the only way to make it, i was only pointing out that going to a top 10 school increases the probabilty of making money down the road...
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 8:45 pm:   

Started my own company when I was 15. I keep growing it, working my proverbial butt off<in>, and this year has finally been good to me.

I have had a passion for F-cars since I could walk, don't even remenber when or how it started, they've always stired something in me.

Hope to have an F-car to call my own before 2004!

And, I have promised myself a 288GTO before I am 30.

Best!
Ben. - 22 years old, but feel like I'm 5.
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 7:53 pm:   

gimme that job!
Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 7:19 pm:   

$250k from a recent graduate sounds impossible....Even if you went to Princeton or Harvard
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:55 pm:   

Dude, Ricky, if you "can't" live on 250k a year with a family and house where you live, then something is radically wrong.

That person who "couldn't live" needs to a) travel a bit to see and understand how the rest of the world lives, and b) consider moving to a nice area with a lower cost of living.

And if you don't think 250k/yr from a recent graduate in any field comprises a "different class", you need to come down out of the clouds. First, take the median income of the American non-student worker. Way lower right? Fine. Now, seriously, take the median income of American Ferrari owners. Believe me, it would still be less than 250k. Doesn't matter. My point is, 250k right after graduation, or at 18-25 years of age, is most certainly a different class. You should be able to easily see that (especially if you went to Columbia, dude!).

And you're right; an Ivy League school does give you a good foundation. It is good for something. It's just not the only way, though a person's chosen field has a big impact. With technology (my field), it makes no difference. Law? Medicine? There the Ivy League background begins to make a difference.

Your informal salary survey is interesting, and I'm sure very accurate for your particular circumstances. Allow me to add another informal look. When all of my coworkers go out drinking, salary invariably comes up. I tend to be a wallflower in these conversations. There are guys from many of the ivies where I work--Stanford, Columbia, Yale. Even a gal from MIT. They're great friends, and they're all really, really sharp. Strange that the ceiling of that group's salary range is less than my own. Dude, in my field, it doesn't matter where you come from. Who you are is what matters. That, I believe, is a growing trend in society, by the way. (That society is moving away from networks of good old boys and support groups, and more towards an independent ideology is a debatable topic for a different thread [in the OT section!]). The main reason why is, it's too easy to fake it, even at an Ivy League school!

But dude, I totally respect your education and Columbia. (Girlfriend's getting her grad degree there, as a matter of fact.) Ivy League students made a choice, and followed through, just like buying a Ferrari. I had the same choice back in 97. If I were going into law school, I might have ended up in Palo Alto, but I wasn't, so I didn't. I think, in general, those who got accepted into the ivies and who go to state school do just as well as those who got accepted to the ivies and actually went. Interesting!
Red (Redhead)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:23 pm:   

Hey Tako--

I know what you do!! But your secret is safe with me.......
Rich
Rudy Marsh (Acrobatic_dog)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:18 pm:   

I went to a state school - didn't get into debt (scholarship) and got a degree I didn't plan on making any money from (physics). I am an entrepreneur just like everyone else in my family. A lot of hard work and savings go towards my cars - my lifestyle otherwise is quite low-budget (no fancy wardrobe, huge house, etc).
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:05 pm:   

wrong
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 5:04 pm:   

I believe one of TAKO's businesses is www.crystalguard.com, but I'm not 100% sure.
BobD (Bobd)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 4:38 pm:   

Ricky, you are the Dudemeister, Dude. :-)
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 4:15 pm:   

Dude, I graduated from Columbia in 98. The average total comp for first year out of school among my Ivy League (or what you call nose-in-air) friends was $68,000 a year. The average for non-ivy league friends was $31,000. There is a big difference. The average current total comp of my Ivy League friends is $420,000 while the current total comp of non-ivy league friends is $55,000. Says a lot if you ask me.

i'm five years out of school and not for nothing but you can't live on $250,000 with a family and a house where i live so if you think that�s another class you need to rethink it�.and i look around my job, and everyone has an ivy league degree...must be good for something!

There are always exceptions to the rule but a top 10 school gives you a pretty solid foundation to start life with if you ask me
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 4:00 pm:   

Whoops, Michael Yip you've got it alllll wrong.

I just don't buy into that Ivy leage nose-in-air action anymore. Mostly because, in my field, it doesn't matter what your pretty-boy-ass-in-a-tie puts down that you went to school on your resume--it matters what you can do, how well you do it, how well you present and sell yourself, and how well you interface with people.

You go to a school like that for an undergraduate degree, you're looking at 30k/year tuition, housing etc. Unless daddy pays, you're graduating minimum 120k in debt, and that's not even in grad school. So you go to grad school in another ivy league university in the next state, spend another 60k to 90k, and voila, you graduate in 180k to 210k of debt. Maybe less if you did the TA thing and has some scholarships. Woohoo!

Now, you get a job. Funny, you end up working for my state college educated, non-post-graduation debt ass.

And who am I? I'm just a normal guy who played his cards right. That means, right after graduation, I can afford to own and maintain a 308 and live pretty nicely otherwise.

Now, on the other hand, these guys with 250,000yr incomes and multiple ferraris, they're in a different league. One possibility is that they had a huge entreprenurial drive, and made some things happen (stock trading, real estate development, etc.). For those in the 27 to 29 age range, who had a degree, excellent tech skills, entrepreneurial tendencies and vision, you might have done well in the 1995 to 2000 tech boom.

My point is twofold. One, don't pull that Ivy league crap here, nobody wants to hear it. It's a good way to get some good things going but not the only way to be successful. And, by far, it's not the most cost effective way to do anything. After all, Ivy leagers read the same textbooks that I did and skipped just as much class. In the final analysis, going to public schools all my life made me far more adjusted to the real world than the rolling, green lawns of Stanford ever could.

Second, to make it really big--like some of the guys chiming in on this thread--you've got to be either really lucky (hey, let's take a chance on this Amazon.com thing), or lucky/right smarts at the right time (hey, let's start a human-indexed database of web pages and let people search it--we'll call it Yahoo!)... Or, you've got to be a driving part of something really big (e.g. entrepreneur). There are very few jobs in the current, moderate climate that, out of school with even an advanced degree, you can support a Ferrari 360-level lifestyle.

My guess is, "the secret" is being smart, clever, a driver (i.e. extroverted task-oriented person), and not afraid to take a chance on something wild.

My $.02 again.


--Mike
"Look Dad! No student loans!"


L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 3:28 pm:   

Off the topic here but:

Bryan, what is that and where was the photo taken?
Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Oh, and don't expect TAKO to answer your question because his occupation has always been a secret
Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 2:53 pm:   

The secret is you'd better be going to schools like Harvard, Yale, Columbia, Cornell etc.
John (Cohiba_man)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   

I agree with this:

"Let's make this more interesting and have all of the 20-25 year olds who have managed to purchase a $200,000 car (and aren't celebrities) share their secret! No extreme details necessary, I'm just genuinely curious what one does to make that kind of money that quickly."


Lets share, Im a real estate developer and I bought my 348 when I was 22 but I could have bought it at 20.



TAKO - What exactly do you do to have earned your money?
Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 1:22 pm:   

I couldn't resist - my 15 month old is still living w/ ma and pa and he hasn't quite mastered the heel-and-toe, non-synchro, left-handed downshift
Upload
Brian Jackett (Brian_jackett)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 10:12 am:   

How about youngest and not living with mom an pa

(smilie here)
rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 9:52 am:   

Tim i would like her # :-)
Tim N (Timn88)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 7:45 am:   

A salesman at Miller motor cars told me that some guy bought his daughter a 360 for graduation. I would personally never put my kid behind the wheel of anythig with anywhere near 400hp.
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Friday, February 21, 2003 - 12:06 am:   

Money doesn't matter as long as we love ferrari!
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:54 pm:   

Ricky,

I would agree with you completely, except that one of my very best friends is in the exact situation. His father is Chairman of one of the largest financial institutions around, and he is obviously exposed to money most people will never see. I mean he went to Eton, is friends with the royals, blah blah blah.

And yet, this kid himself still appreciates cars so incredibly it's amazing. I'm sure if his father wanted to, he could drop 10 ferraris on him, but neither would he, nor does my friend want it. Sure he's financially dependent on his father, but he would much rather earn his own car. In fact, he is incredibly appreciative of these cars...

But, I agree, there is a skew in perception. I know people like what you mentioned, and you're right, they're after bigger things and the car loses meaning. Except for those few special guys who *really* love the cars! ;)

--Dan
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:35 pm:   

dan, i hear what your saying but at $250MM a ferrari just cant mean as much... at that point you can literally buy as many ferraris as you want and yeah you can appreciate them aesthetically and enjoy the performance, but you cant look at a $200,000 car and be like wow, i finally can afford this....the toys get bigger so instead of F-cars you start buying G4s and G5s...It�s one big circle jerk...most of the really rich people i know ($200MM and higher) don�t really care about cars anymore...they are buying estates in 10 different countries and jets...they have the ferraris just how common folk drive VWs and Hondas...

its kind of like being healthy and taking it for granted�I never new how lucky I was to be healthy until my best friend died of leukemia at the age of 26�everyday since that experience I can say I truly understand what it mean to appreciate health�same with money and cars�if someone grew up loaded and doesn�t know what its like not to have money, then there is now way for them to understand what it feels like�it�s not their fault so you cant blame them or be jealous�
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:19 pm:   

Bret,

I think you and I are saying the same thing. And it's pretty much in line with what Ricky is saying - except I have to add this caveat - I wouldn't mind being part of the lucky sperm. Reason is this: let's say when I die I've amassed 250M. Well, assuming I've raised my kids right, I think that having money will only bring priveledges, and again, assuming I've done a good job as a parent, I would definetly want ot pass it down to them...

But then, that opens up a whole different can of worms.

--Dan
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:05 pm:   

mark, for me it's wall street...the past three years have been hugely profitable for our group while most of the areas have suffered like never before�.

I went to Columbia undergrad and graduated in 98, someone gave me a shot, i worked my ass off (still do) and 5 years later i have no school loans, my own place ($200,000 co-op in Westchester with a small mortgage, hey rates are low and helps with taxes), a 98 m3, a 91 jetta, a 01 A4, and my 355 and they are all paid for, zero debt on the cars�

my personal rule has been and is i save $2 for every $1 i spend so it may seem like i have a lot for a 26 year old but i'm actually living rather conservatively for the money i make...

�would definitely have been nice to be part of the lucky sperm club but I�m happier this way�I don�t care what anyone says, you really can�t appreciate it unless you put the blood, sweat, and tears into it�just my $.02�and that�s not to say that people who get them as gifts cant be good tifosi�
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:03 pm:   

Dan (Bobafett),

Could you shoot me an email. I have a question for you.

Thanks!

Jason-
[email protected]
BretM (Bretm)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 10:02 pm:   

I agree with you entirely then, I would consider you in that hard working category. I guess basically I am not into the people like you pointed out that just get a car and then just like it because it's a Ferrari, not because they really care about it, etc. The thing is that it is much more often that wealthy people simply get a Ferrari, whereas it is very rare for the average guy to just have one given to him or buy it on a whim.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 8:48 pm:   

Bret,

I agree about those who care and buy a 15k Ferrari vs. those who buy the 1M just because they can. But, those are extreme cases in both. The more appropriate case will be someone in a situation like myself, where yes, my parents are well off, but at the same time, they'd be damned if they bought me a car. Everything I've bought has been through my own work and ingenuity (which is a long story not to be discussed here). Of course, it's through financial empowerment THAT I can then buy a car like a 360 or 575. So for those kinds of people, I think they are equally justified in being called tifosi if they really do have the spirit.

But it is very easy to cite extremes (as I did earlier) to make point. The middle ground is where you run into trouble, but even then you can tell the enthusiast from the guy who isn't. I would like to consider myself an enthusiast for many reasons, and I can tell you that the day I bought that spider I felt like I was part of 'the family' - you think of drivers with driving styles and names of poetry: Tazio Nuvolari, you think of Enzo and his purple ink, Ferrari's racing history - you feel a part of that and definetly consider yourself a part of that. I would be hurt if, after all that, someone said I wasn't an enthusiast.

The opposite scenario, however, might be like a friend of mine, who for HS grad got a 355 spider. Another girl I know got a 360 and a 540 from her parents (but I knew her in middle school). My friend surely isn't an enthusiast, not in the terms I consider it. He liked the car, but he liked that it was a Ferrari and he could say that.

That's the difference. (I think that got a bit longer than I intended).

--Dan
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 8:19 pm:   

Bryan Phillips - your Dad wins.

Jim S.
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 8:11 pm:   

I agree with Mark. I'm just sixteen so this is all an inspiration to me. Seeing/hearing about people so young owning all these awesome cars- it is definitely something to look up/forward to for my future years... so what do some of you do?
J. Grande (Jay)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:55 pm:   

Always said before I turn 30 I'd own a Ferrari. Bought one last year when I turned 29. 1975 308 GT4
Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:34 pm:   

These "who's the youngest ..." threads always seem very self-serving to me and, to be totally honest, I find them a little depressing. :-)

Let's make this more interesting and have all of the 20-25 year olds who have managed to purchase a $200,000 car (and aren't celebrities) share their secret! No extreme details necessary, I'm just genuinely curious what one does to make that kind of money that quickly.
BretM (Bretm)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:32 pm:   

I agree entirely Mike.

Dan, you may feel that I am discriminating against lucky sperm, but you're trying to use the exception as the rule. The two biggest Ferrari enthusiasts I know are exceptionally wealthy and have been their entire lives. Both of them have several Ferraris, and not just 355s or 360s. They're both the type of guys that would take a nice Daytona coupe over a 550. BUT they are the exception to the rule. For the most part, the guys that have spent the time working their ass off or wrenching in the garage to make their dream come true are logically more enthusiastic as a whole when it comes to Ferraris. Bottom line is it doesn't really matter, I was more trying to make the point that I would give more respect to the guy with the $5000 car that lives for it than I would give to the guy with the $1M car who doesn't even know what kind of engine is in it.
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 6:21 pm:   

Rob,

In response to your question, "what makes buying a ferrari more impressive at a young age then buying another sports car?"

Well, a couple of things come to mind. You're looking at it purely from a financial standpoint, which is really, really not the right thing to do.

Your vette and my 308 are worlds apart. Yours is brand new, mine is older than both you and I.

You spent way too much money on yours, I spent a resonable amount on mine (after all, it's on par with a "Ford Taurus"). Yours will be worth half the price you paid for it in 10 years, mine will appreciate significantly.

I can do most of the work on mine, you get to have warranty work at the dealer done on yours.

Yours will probably also beat mine at a stoplight, if you can manage the gear changing aspects OK.

You ask, "is that (your 60k vette) more impressive then the guy with a $25,000 308? or it mine just a vette?"

No, that is not any more impressive. I see vettes around everywhere (mostly driven by 45 year olds and wives). They're common. The money has nothing to do with it. And yes, it is just a vette :-).

There's more to owning a Ferrari than paying 25k (that number isn't really representative of most 308s, of course). They're not for everybody, and you usually know if they're for you--your're drawn. If you've got the bug, you've got it. If not, then you buy a new shiney robotically assembled Vette complete with GM-style keys. It's very similar to motorcycles.

To me, somebody who springs for a 308 over the M3 or Vette is different in some way from most. A 308 doesn't just "happen," you work at it, you research it. They cost more to operate, and would tend to give their fair share of problems, but again, if you've got it, and you can deal, then driving one is more rewarding than cruising around my dad's Vette ever was.

So, in summary, "what's 'soo' special"? That I had the drive and the balls to get something unique! :-)

My $.02. I'm not knocking your ride or your choice. Just don't go throwing your 60k in GM money purcahse price bit on me!

All that said, your car is great looking, and clearly very fast. We both share a common interest in performance sports cars that most don't, and that's fine in my book ;).

--Mike

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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:56 pm:   

to James Selevan's question re: who has owned their F-car the longest . . . my dad bought his 1955 500 Mondial in 1960 and still owns it - 43 years. It has appreciated ;-)

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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:54 pm:   

I have one in Japan. There are authorized dealers in Japan.
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:50 pm:   

Tako, I would love to see a pic of all you cars next to each other...esp the Tuscan...OT how much did it cost to import that baby?
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:48 pm:   

Lol Tako

Why not give me your 360 so I can be an owner.:-)
Nice car by the way. What color is your murc?
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:45 pm:   

Someone buy me a ENZO plz. Then I become a youngest ENZO owner hopefully.
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

How does having someone else buy you a f-car make you less of an enthusiast?

I mean I love Ferrari more than another marque, and if you read most of my posts here, you prob picked up on that :-). If they were cheaper I would have bought it with my own $, like I did my 2 old bmws. But there is no way I could/can afford a 20k+ let alone 50k+ car.

I have respect for anyone who has a f-car, whether he/she bought it or was given it, as long as they bought it not to show off, or because its 'cool' and 'in', but because they love all that is a Ferrari. Most here bought a Ferrari not because they 1. could or 2. pose or 3. everyone says its good


...logical?
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:15 pm:   

Sunny,

Well, I guess that's all in consideration. People work towards different goals. If someone makes all sorts of sacrifices to afford a Ferrari, do we call him financially reckless or a bigger enthusiast? But you can always tell the enthusiast from the non. I find it silly to discriminate against affluent enthusiasts, though.

--Dan
Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 5:09 pm:   

Dan, not less of an enthusiast but "different." I respect an owner more for what they've accomplished to buy able to buy a Ferrari and/or what that Ferrari means to them.

Rich or poor is not a measurement in my eyes unless its someone wealthy who decides to put down the money for a new Ferrari or receives one just because. To me, they're just another bloke with a Ferrari, not an enthusiast (yet) and its the car that actually receives the respect, not the owner.

Someone who's had it as a goal for a long time and to have achieved that is at the top of the enthusiast food chain in my book.

Sunny
TAKO (Tako)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:56 pm:   

21 BMW Z3
23 Jaguar S-type
24 BMW Z8
25 BMW M5
26 Modena Spider, Mini Cooper
27 Murcielago, TVR Tuscan Speed 6 and NISSAN 350Z!!!!

Anyway, age doesn't matter as long as we love Ferrari!!
Rudy Marsh (Acrobatic_dog)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:29 pm:   

I'm 26 - just got my 355 a couple of weeks ago. Paid for with my own hard earned, carefully saved up cash :-) That probably makes me 27th youngest...
Scott (Jsa3)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 4:11 pm:   

I'm 53. And I could have bought the same car that I have over $40K now in when I was 27 or 28 for $5-7K. I'm trying to remember what I was thinking when I paid $9,000.00 for a new Honda Accord back then.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:59 pm:   

Bret,

I gotta disagree. If you have the finances, how are you any LESS of an enthusiast? Look at all of the fine collectors, for example. And as for whether being affluent has any influence: Ferrari themselves creates cars for their best customers (F50/Enzo) - surely that has some significance.

--Dan
rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

me two weeks agoUpload
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:12 pm:   

3 years.

Upload
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:05 pm:   

I give a hell of a lot more respect to someone that made it happen and accomplished a goal (lifelong usually) of owning a particular type of car than I give to someone that is rich and just bought it. It's easy to buy a Ferrari when you're rich, all you do is throw down the money. It's much more difficult, and IMO garners more respect, when you make getting that Ferrari a large part of your life and eventually accomplish it. I also give a lot more credit to you guys with families that pulled a Ferrari. IMO anyone that is still hung up on the money thing should get out of highschool already. Come on, I stopped trying to impress people when I was like 17. Sure, by now I could own a 355, but I have a lot more fun with the 308 and I've learned infinitely more about cars, which IMO is much more valuable than a few more good looks from people I pass on the street. I guess to sum it up, I'd give a lot more credit to a guy that made his 308 faster than an F50 than I would give to the guy that just bought the F50. Anyone with money can buy an F50, very few people can do so much engineering to a car.
rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 3:00 pm:   

Tim it is virtually stock, i redid the leather interrior, put in the TV, Rims, tires, couple bolt on's, speakers amp, NO SUB! Harnesses etc all adds up ...Engine is completely stock you'll know when its modified, and its not a factory freak i just know how to drive :-)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Ah, by the way:
The Ferrari was the first car I bought with my own money.
This has nothing to say of course but it�s still cool in some way if somebody is going to ask me which car I first bought on my own when I was young I can say in a casual way:
"Well as far as I can remember it was a Ferrari!"


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Erik R. K. Jonsson (Gamester)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:48 pm:   

GT4 insurance $165/year 20,000 agreed value from Haggerty insurance. Cheap!
Tim N (Timn88)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:44 pm:   

I'd have a 360 if i was the son of a rap star, actor, or some really loaded guy because if i was that guys son, all the other kids in the neighboorhood would have one too.
Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   

This thread sucks-I find it demoralizing to know how many people got Ferraris before they could legally drink.
I was, previous to reading this, very proud of myself for getting a Ferrari at 36-by the way mine is 2 years older than I am and we're about the same in terms of wear and tear I'd say.
DES (Sickspeed)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:38 pm:   

Tim, you should never concern yourself with what other people think- if you can afford a 360, then get it... If you're really that concerned about comments that people might make, get a license plate that says HARDWORK or NOT DADS or EARNEDIT- other than that, who gives a flying expletive what other people think...
Tim N (Timn88)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:32 pm:   

Im suprised by the age of some owners too. M5 at 18, 360 at 20, 575 at 22...
As much as i would love to have a 360 in a year when i'm 20, i just know its pointless. Sure it would be cool to have, but unless i was Master P's son, with more $ than i knew what to do with, it doenst make sense. I grew up in a middle/upper middle class town where most kids drove either their parents cars, or cars of their own, but nothing that speical. I think the most expensive car that any of my friends drives is a 98 540i. i wouldnt want people to think i was spoiled.i would get sick of hearing "did your daddy buy that for you?" I guess im just modest though. I plan on having one by the time i'm 30, after i have an ebony metallic black 2002 S4.

rob, $65k is more than a vette sold for. I KNEW IT WASNT STOCK!! For a while i thought your vette was some sort of factory freak accident that was just relly fast for some reason, because you always said it was stock. when you pulled hard on boscos 360hp camaro, i started to wonder if it was really stock!
rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:29 pm:   

Harry i had something 2" long when i was three but it wasn't a ferrari LOL
Harry (Harry)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:07 pm:   

I had my first Ferrari when I was three years old. I think it was a 275 GTB and about 2 inches long. I have to admit that my dad paid for it.
Harry (Harry)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 2:05 pm:   

I had my first Ferrari when I was three years old. I think it was a 275 GTB and about 2 inches long. I have to admit that my dad paid for it.
Chris Brody (Cbrody)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:55 pm:   

Rob,

There are many things that should effect it.... Cars in comparision to a house are very very cheap. Also depends on the house of course and area it is in. A car is a flashy item and some people purchase them without having any or little other expenses.

If I didn't have my house I could have a list of high-end cars. But it would be silly to have a nice ferrari and rent an appartment or live with one's parents.

Just my thoughts
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 1:25 pm:   

Hey David Spear,

Shoot me an email... I'm curious as to know how your business ventures are happening thus far.

Jason-
[email protected]
Chris Coleman (Dmc4cc)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 11:03 am:   

Really, what impresses me isn't what someone paid for a car to get it all.....If thats all that impresses thats kind of sad.....
rob ferretti (Robiferretti)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 9:51 am:   

i know a HS kid with a yellow 360 spider(manual) and by the way its painful to hear he try and park it or drive it from a stop :-( he also has a 2002 Z06 both bought by his parents....

Now my question is this, what makes buying a ferrari more impressive at a young age then buying another sports car? when shopping for a 308 you are also in the price range of a new ford tarus...whats soo special? is a $25,000 car an acomplishment at a young age? i have $65,000 invested in my vette i bought it when i was 20, and am now 22, worked for every penny...is that more impressive then the guy with a $25,000 308? or it mine just a vette? I think anyone who at a young age 19-23 can afford to buy a $40,000+ car is doing alright and i am impressed, be it a viper, a newer NSX a c5, etc... and to answer whats probably on your mind, NO i am not impressed by someone driving an 85 corvette at any age...its still a $5,000 car LOL
Evan Jones (Jonesn)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 9:35 am:   

Ok, I'm curious. How does a college student get a 360/355? Gift from parents or do they run a small business?
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 9:19 am:   

Wow this thread is pretty inspirational to me. I figured that most Ferrari owners were older but now I see there are guys my age and some younger than me around. A huge congratulations to you guys and all owners here at that. For you youngers guys is insurance outrageous for you?
David A. Spear (Detailman)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 7:31 am:   

I am 23 and got my 95 355 spyder right after my b-day last june.
Erik R. K. Jonsson (Gamester)
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Posted on Thursday, February 20, 2003 - 12:35 am:   

73 914 @ 16
(others not worthy of mention)
82 308 GTSi @ 27
77 308 GT4 @ 29
still have these 3 and enjoying the 77 currently.
James Selevan (Jselevan)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 8:30 pm:   

Okay - you guys win. Now let's change the question. Who has owned the same Ferrari for the longest period? I got my first (246 GT) before Matt Lamotte (the originator of this thread) was born (purhased in 1977). Still own it. Have added a few since then. Still own them. Kind of a hoarding thing. (Paid $10,000 for the first Dino; $11,000 for the second - purchased a year later). The TR acquired in 1990. Still own it. The other two are more recent acquisitions.

Jim S.
Stephen A. Thompson, II (Sat4re)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 8:13 pm:   

I'm 28. Bought my 308qv at 27; the first car I ever bought for myself. Previously, I had a Ford Taurus that my Dad bought me in high school, and then my wife's old Jeep Cherokee after she got a new one.
Dan (Bobafett)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 7:02 pm:   

21 now, bought (and later sold) 360 @ 20. 575 due this year, but I'll be 22 by then (in July, unless of course I go 550 sooner). For what it's worth, I bought my M5 @ 18.

Go Bret!

--Dan
Vernon Hill (Vwh3rd)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   

33 Now
First F-car 32
First Airplane 21

Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 12:27 pm:   

John,

That is an interesting twist--driving a car older than you. It's always humbling driving in my 78, as it came off the line exactly one year before I was born.

When galloping around, I think of all the music that's been through the speakers--all the clothes and eras. Maybe a bit of disco there for a while, cruising san francisco to the tune of, among others, hall and oates, all the great memories it's given others before me. It's like a new, well broken-in (and HOT!) girlfriend who's been around a bit. Come to think of it, I kinda like that better!

William H (Countachxx)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:56 am:   

I was 25 when I got my 308QV, 35 when I got my 512TR.

Bret you are to be congratulated for surviving in a 308 as a teenager :-) I got a BMW 320iS when i was 17, stuffed it into a phone pole 3 months later
john w. houghtaling, II (Johnhoughtaling)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:46 am:   

I think the better question is who has a Ferrari older than they are?

I know at 31 I'd be thrilled with a particular partner (actually I can think of 36 partners ) born in 1963.
Phil Bryson (Phildo)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 10:22 am:   

Decided to have the traditional mid-life crisis at 41 and bought the F-car last year. I've had the trophy wife for 15 years, so the car was all I needed....
Jim Gress (Jim_g)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 9:21 am:   

I was 27 when I got my 1999 Modena, now I'm 31 and I took delivery of my 2003 Spyder last month. These cars are my passion and except for great food,wine, and beautiful woman I'd save alot of $$$$.
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 9:14 am:   

I was 22 when I bought the 348. I had it for 3 years when I tried my hand at an NSX and a 911 @ 25. The Merc came after I got rid of everything and just wanted a nice car. Well... I missed the sounds, looks and feel of an Fcar. I one day ran into my 355 with 16,000 km (about 10,000 miles)at 28 years old and resisted for only a day. before I bought it. Never had a problem with it. I am 30 now and love opening the garage door when I come home from work.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 9:02 am:   

Jim, don't feel bad. I waited till I hit 40 for my first. Now I decided to get my 2nd at 50. We'll see.
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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30 for the 1st. 31 for the second.
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 8:52 am:   

God I feel like a loser! 32 and no F-car. I keep having 1 time expenses that negate all my efforts!
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jake (Enzoforza)
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im 28 look in my profile for a pic of my 328 and my Viper Venom 600. I like to think that together they add up to a 355!!!!!!! I actually have a spare battery cover for the 328 if anyones looking for one.
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 7:43 am:   

Peter, I am sorry to hear that :-(
stu cordova (Balataboy)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 7:33 am:   

Geezzz, I'm probably one of the oldest owners here at 50...but what the hell, I feel as good now as I did when I was 20 (just not as often!). :-)
DHutchison (Hutch308)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 7:21 am:   

I bought my 308 at 25, back in 2000. And hopefully I'll have a Testarossa by the time I turn 29 in August.
Peter (Bubba)
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Posted on Wednesday, February 19, 2003 - 6:51 am:   

28 when the 86 Mondial 3.2 and 94 512TR were acquired last year. Both were mostly paid for by my dear brother (RIP) who was 2 years older than me. He has passed away now, so the 2 F-cars are now technically mine.
Jason Paro (Jason_79)
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I bought mine at 21 now I'm 23 she's a 308 gts
Omar (Auraraptor)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 11:56 pm:   

I am prob. the youngest 'owner' but I didn't pay for mine, so I guess I don't count.

There are alot of 360 owners who are 18/19 in college who also didn't pay for their car(s), but many dont love f-cars the way most here do...if you know what I mean.
Anthony Randazzo (Antroc)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:53 pm:   

I'm 33, bought my 82 308 when I was 31.
I wanted to by my first Ferrari before I turned 30, but other projects came up. I wasn't too far off. Hopefully next summer I am going to buy a 355 spider or 360.
Jean-Louis (Jlm348)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 10:43 pm:   

27 when I bought my 348 Spider last year
Paul Newman (Newman)
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My 2-1/2 year old daughter claims the 308 is hers everytime the topic comes up. I told my wife no problem, we just have to get another one for me.
Kelly (Tifosi1)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 9:56 pm:   

Art, Good to see another old fart on here. I turn 45 next week.
but my son owns the car. he is 9.
JohnR. (Rivee)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 8:42 pm:   

The real question should be is "How young were you when you first went into major debt to buy a Fcar"?

And second question is "How young were you when you paid off your Fcar"?
arthur chambers (Art355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 8:35 pm:   

Sure isn't me. 58.

Art

Rehan (F3606m)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 8:34 pm:   

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Robert (Rjklein4470)
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I was 29 when I got my 360
Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:41 pm:   

24 now, 308 GTS... Bought last year at 23. Nothing fancy, just grad school and careful budgeting. Oh yeah, like with all of us, having some balls didn't hurt, either!

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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:40 pm:   

negative 5, Farina Hocking Lay will be born in 2008 and she will own a Ferrari from day 1.
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:23 pm:   

got my 308 at 26. Looking to get into a 348 or 355 very soon. I'm now 28
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:17 pm:   

I bought my first Ferrari (78 308 GTS) upon finishing residency- delayed gratification- at age 26. Then a 92 Mondial T-cab at age 32 and now at the ripe old age of 37 I added a 2000 360 F1 to the collection. That means at 42 ....F80???
eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:01 pm:   

I'm 24, got 355 spider.

Kevin, super congratulations to you mate! Absolutely fantastic! Your collection is pretty amazing, let alone for your age.
Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 5:00 pm:   

Good God, kids. How sad am I to be thrilled with my '78 308 at 32?

(ANSWER: We're all damned lucky to be any age owning any Ferrari!)

Side note: I drove the 308 last night to The Tennessee Theater here in Knoxville, TN, to hear "Buena Vista Social Club". Me and my wife's first "date" in the car...one helluva show and one helluva way to get there! After reading the "girls getting out of Ferraris" thread, though, I didn't drop her off in front of the theater. Thanks a lot, folks.
Horsefly (Arlie)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 4:59 pm:   

I wonder how young some of the Ferrari "owners" REALLY are? By that I mean, how many owners have their cars registered in their kid's name so as to hide assets? From what I know about corporate structure, many "kids" are listed on corporate papers as shareholders in various corporations, even though they are well under legal age. How many people have their fancy (expen$ive) cars titled in their kid's names so that any bankruptcy proceedings could never touch the car, just in case? There may be some VERY young Ferrari and collector car owners out there who don't even know they own expensive cars!

Mark Collins (Markcollins)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 4:57 pm:   

Hmm I've not won this one then, I was 37 when I bought a 328
Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 4:36 pm:   

OH MAN! Don't you guys know it really doesn't matter how old (physically) you bought your first one?

What really matters is how old (or young) you think!

For that matter I'm physically 38 but mentally 12! :-)
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:57 pm:   

Hey BretM,

What do you do to pay for the 308?

Oh, and Kevin, way to go man! You're an inspiration for us youngin's. ;-)

Jason-
John (Modenaf1fan)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:50 pm:   

im 21, i can buy a ferrari 308,328,or 348 right now but i dotn know how to drive stick and i dont have a place to put it..i was thinkin about sharin a ferrari w/ my bro..but i decided to buy a new house first then go for a 360:-)
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:48 pm:   

i knew i should have done that!
:-)
Jeff (Jeff_m)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:46 pm:   

Forget the 308, I want to know how a 27 year old gets an F50!!! I take it you started a company, it took off and you went public? Am I even close? Nice job.
Randall Booth (Randall)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:39 pm:   

What type of job does an 18 year old have to buy a Ferrari?

I'm 26 and just bought my first car ('82 308).
BretM (Bretm)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

I was 17 when I bought the 308 (GTSqv), I just turned 20 last month though. WTF, I'm getting old, next thing I know I'll be dead. If I was smart I would probably stop screwing around with modding the 308 and just save to get a 355, still having too much fun with the my Magnum p.i. car though.
Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

Bought mine when I was 29. I just turned 35
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:24 pm:   

How old were you when you bought the F50 Kevin
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:15 pm:   

Kevin,
28 and you have an F-50. You get double congratulations.
TomD (Tifosi)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:13 pm:   

I think Dr MArtin is the oldest
RANDOLPH MADAMBA (Pogibm)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:11 pm:   

i was 18 when i had my first ferrari 512bb,36 now and still with plus a few italians.
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:11 pm:   

Can we hijack this thread and go the other direction?

Who's the oldest driver around here?
Chris Brody (Cbrody)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:01 pm:   

25 Now... bought my 348 Spider when I was 24
JohnR. (Rivee)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 3:01 pm:   

I feel like 16 1/2.........308GTS





Does this count?
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:56 pm:   

i paid for mine also, figured that went without saying
Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:56 pm:   

hey matt, i am 28 now, but i bought my first ferrari when i was 24.
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

I am 28 now but bought my 348 with my very own money when I was 26!
Not too young but early enough for me...


Con saluti cordialissimi,
Jens Haller
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:53 pm:   

i went there for undergrad, columbia college...graduated in 98
Ernesto (T88power)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:51 pm:   

Ricky, I notice you have a columbia university e-mail address. That's where I went to grad school... what school are you in?

Ernesto
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:49 pm:   

since sept...best money i have ever spent
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:47 pm:   

Great looking car Ricky! How long have you had it?
Jeff (Jeff_m)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   

Damn, at 34 I am starting to feel like an old man!
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:35 pm:   

Bought it with 15K, has 17K now�it runs great, hauls ass
Evan Jones (Jonesn)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

Hey Ricky, how many miles are on your F355? How does it run (for a 1995 model)?
Jason Williams (Pristines4)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:28 pm:   

I'll be 18 next month and will hopefully have a 328 or 308 within 2003.

I don't know if "hopefully" counts though. ;-)
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:26 pm:   

Brett has a 308 I believe.
TomD (Tifosi)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   

he has a 308 modified
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:22 pm:   

I'm 26...have a 355
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:21 pm:   

What's he drive again? And congratulations Bret!
TomD (Tifosi)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:17 pm:   

I think Bret is still the youngest at 18 or 19 now
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
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Posted on Tuesday, February 18, 2003 - 2:16 pm:   

I was just curious to see if there were anyone my age(25) or even less around here. I know there was someone with a 360 that was I believe 27-28.

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