| Author | Message | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 918 Registered: 4-2002 |
I wonder if the other alloy car is labeled a GTS also?? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1033 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, I don't have the answer on this one. As I said, I thought all were designated as "275 GTB/4." I have put the question out to "those in the know" and will keep you informed when I get a response. | ||
| Gary Reed (Gary_reed)
New member Username: Gary_reed Post Number: 22 Registered: 2-2002 |
There were only 10 NART Spyders made. The first two had custom alloy bodies. Jon's is #2. The other 8 cars were steel bodied. Gary | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 631 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hi The one Coco told me about was the first one.A long time ago I did see one with a 275GTS4 plate but I assumed it was a fake. I thought all ten were plated as GTB's as Coco told me they were coupes that were cut after they were completed. Wayne? Best Jim | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 694 Registered: 2-2002 |
Perhaps James Glickenhaus has the answer. In previous posts he has said that Coco Chinetti told him that Scaglietti employees were cutting the roofs off of 275 GTBs in the parking lot with hack saws to convert them to NART Spiders. Perhaps 9 were converted GTBs and one was originally bodied as a Spider? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1031 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hans, sorry. For some reason I read that as "...one of only 10 whose model designation..." Actually, I've never heard that any of them were designated as "275 GTS/4" since all were built on 275 GTB/4 chassis that were provided by the factory and intended to be berlinettas. Only at Chinetti's request did Scaglietti body them has spyders instead. Very interesting! I wonder why this car was different? | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 600 Registered: 10-2001 |
raaaaaaaaaa , that 275 Nart Spyder in Yellow is just Superb ! And the 375 Berlinetta is the perfect car for the MM !! He only needs a P4 , 512 S , 250 LM , a Daytona Comp and and F50 GT  | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 915 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hi Wayne. Puzzled by what you meant. Jon said that his was the only one of the 10 spiders that was "branded" as a GTS. The other 9 were labeled as GTBs. Did I missunderstand something? | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1030 Registered: 8-2002 |
PSK, it's okay. I believe we've discussed Lord Brocket here before. In fact, if you dig around, you'll find a thread where I explained how the good LB even pulled a big one over on JS! I don't think any of his escapades are secret since he's already been convicted, did time, and been released. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Junior Member Username: Psk Post Number: 172 Registered: 11-2002 |
Infact atleast one collector got the drug so bad that in an attempt to solve his financial problem he destroyed 3 of his cars, and in an insurance scam claimed they had been stolen. Very bad man, as we lost a Maserati and a couple of early Ferraris. Atleast one has been remade, er, hardly restored as a completely new body has had to be made and trimmed, and chassis welded back together, etc. I won't mention any names other than he is a Lord and resides in England. Thus if the owners are not really into the cars or loose the plot (as this guy did), we all loose in the end. Pete ps: These cars are like art and are not just cars ... naturally in an accident the safety and well being of the driver and passengers are more important, but purposefully destroying the art is unbelieveable ... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1029 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hans, lol, it is one of only 10 period! | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 795 Registered: 5-2002 |
JMG, that's good to hear. When the big collector car boom started back in the 1980s, there seemed to be alot of guys who jumped on the bandwagon, but later sold off their collections for various reasons. Either they were in over their head financially and their beloved cars/investments never appreciated 1000 percent; or they were just band-wagoners who bailed out when it wasn't COOL anymore or the novelty wore off. The Corvette world seemed to have more than its share of those guys; genuine millionaires AND greedy local yocals who tried to corner the market and lost their shirts. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 378 Registered: 9-2001 |
Arlie, while you are correct in your assessment that anyone with money can produce an amazing collection, I can assure you that Jon Shirley is more than that. I have known them for some time and can attest that he is indeed a steward of the Ferrari marque equal to any others that I have ever met or read about. - JMG | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 914 Registered: 4-2002 |
RE: the 275 Spider - Jon said it was the only one of the 10 whose model designation on the serial # plate read 275GTS, as all the others say 275GTB. Apparently many of the spider models produced were at the arm twisting of Chinetti. Jon said that Chinetti convinced Enzo that they would sell 1000 Daytona Spiders. Oops. | ||
| Douglas A Hunt (Boxercrazy)
New member Username: Boxercrazy Post Number: 31 Registered: 11-2002 |
arlie,i think it was mr glickenhaus that posted pics and a story about a 250 gto sitting in a field in ohio(very interesting because of my proximity to ohio,i assure you) douglas hunt | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1026 Registered: 8-2002 |
Arlie, I don't remember. I'm sure it wouldn't be difficult to find again. Anyway, you'll be happy to know that there are plenty of collectors out there that fit that description. David Love told me once how he had purchased his pontoon-fendered Testa Rossa back in the early sixties for $3000 cash and a Porsche 550 Spyder on trade. Funny thing, at the time both cars weren't worth much but now... Another example is Wayne Golomb who sought out and purchased several very special one-off Ferraris back in the 1960s and 70s. He still has two of these special cars that he drives almost daily. Both cars being well-known and highly sought after meant that phone calls were contantly pouring in from wealthy collectors wanting to add them to their collections. As a result, Wayne has moved to a more secluded location and refuses to let the cars be featured in magazines. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 792 Registered: 5-2002 |
I don't debate that the owner of the collection is a nice guy. And I don't debate that the cars are rare and wonderful. It's just that it comes as no surprise that a guy with hundreds of millions of dollars could put together such a collection within just a few years. DUH!!! With that kind of money, one could put together a collection of the best ANYTHING within a few years. So, in that sense, it's no big deal. As I've said before, show me the guy who bought a 250GTO or an OLD Testarossa when they were $4000 cars, and I will admire THAT jewel in his Ferrari crown. I think LWayne once posted a link to some photos of old 250GTOs when they were rotting in fields and back lots long before they were desirable to the masses. I found those photos FAR more interesting than all the restored cars posted anywhere else. (what was that link, LWayne)? | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 377 Registered: 9-2001 |
The purchase of each car was documented in the notebook on site. I did not look for earliest/latest but there seem to have been a bunch that he picked up in 98. The collection used to be at his residence but the display/maintenance needs outgrew his space there so he built out this warehouse. I have not seen (nor did I take) any pictures of the workshop on the end but it is clear that he intends to stay here for a while. Even the bathroom had a Ferrari tile motif, as Jon stated "if you are going to do it, you should do it with an eye toward perfection." - JMG - JMG | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3693 Registered: 12-2000 |
I'm sure fairly fast after he started selling MSFT. I've watched what he's sold over the past few years and it would blow your mind. He was selling more a few years ago, but here's what he's sold lately... http://biz.yahoo.com/t/98/1078.html Still has 6 mil. shares, so that's $150 mil. Plus he's sold about $160 mil worth the past two years. Now that's bank! Although nothing compared to Billy's 600,000,000 current shares. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2391 Registered: 8-2002 |
i'd like to add to Arlie's question by asking what exactly constitutes a collection...? Is it just two or more cars or a minimum of three...? Does there need to be a vintage/classic car in the bunch, etc...? | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 791 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have a question. When was the first car purchased that started that collection? If nobody knows that specifically, how many years did it take to amass that collection, and approximately when was that collection started? | ||
| Chris Burch (Cyb)
New member Username: Cyb Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2003 |
Thanks David, I guess I will just have to wait until August for Pebble Beach......Oh well | ||
| david handa (Davehanda)
Member Username: Davehanda Post Number: 516 Registered: 5-2001 |
Chris, It is a private collection, and not open to the public. He opens it to the local chapter of the FCA once per year (at least the last two years). Not sure if our club will/will not do this again next year. | ||
| Chris Burch (Cyb)
New member Username: Cyb Post Number: 6 Registered: 1-2003 |
Sorry if this has been already answered... Where is this garage/museum located? Is it opened to the general public? If not, how can someone (Ferrari owner) get invited to view this incredible collection? | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 376 Registered: 9-2001 |
We asked him about the BBi specifically and he said that he purchased it because he always wanted one and he felt that it was part of the series he had already picked up. He also said that most conversions were done poorly and that this one was done exceptionally well and sold and serviced locally (Tonkin) so it was a true no stories car. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1142 Registered: 8-2001 |
The boxer looked like a standard BBi. We had it opened up. He probably keeps it just because he likes it. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1025 Registered: 8-2002 |
Lee, re: the Boxer, I really have no idea. Considering the fact that most of his Ferraris are special examples of their particular model, I wonder if it wasn't an early prototype or something. Hmm, this is going to require further research! | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 446 Registered: 5-2002 |
Now that is what I call a colection.. Incredible! | ||
| Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Junior Member Username: Questioner Post Number: 134 Registered: 1-2003 |
For those interested who do not know about it yet, there is a book available through Ferrari dealers called L'idea Ferrari. It contains many, many pictures of the older Ferrari in development. It also shows many of the models used in developing the cars before production. I especially like the hand drawings like the ones on the wall of Mr. Shirley's garage. There are also some cutaway engine drawings of the early Ferrari engines. The book is L'idea Ferrari Copyright 1990 by Gruppo Editoriale Fabbri, Bompiani, Sonzogno, Etas S.p.A., Milan It is well worth the price. I believe you can get one for less than $30 at Ferrari dealers. | ||
| Lee Sanders (Lsand007)
New member Username: Lsand007 Post Number: 36 Registered: 3-2002 |
Wayne What's the Telaio on Shirley's Boxer? Lee | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1022 Registered: 8-2002 |
It is. | ||
| Norman (Storminnormin)
Junior Member Username: Storminnormin Post Number: 57 Registered: 7-2002 |
Is the 1955 375 MM Scaglietti Coupe Speciale s/n 0402AM the legendary Rosellini car? The body is so gorgeous! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2363 Registered: 8-2002 |
This is such horse crap (no pun intended), there's no way i'm taking a pop quiz with proper tutoring...! | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1019 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES: There will be a pop quiz later. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1017 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay, I'm bored. For those who are interested (and for DES), here's a quick run-down of the Ferraris pictured here: As previously mentioned: 1962 250 GTO s/n 3729GT 1956 290 MM s/n 0628 1971 365 GTB/4 "NART Spyder" conversion s/n 14299 In addition: 1949 166 MM Touring Barchetta s/n 0010M (#20) 1954 500 Mondial PF Berlinetta s/n 0422MD (French blue) 1957 250 Testa Rossa Prototipo s/n 0666TR (#4) 1967 275 GTB/4 NART Spyder s/n 9751 (yellow) 1960 250 GT LWB California Competizione s/n 1699GT 1955 375 MM Scaglietti Coupe Speciale (rebody) s/n 0402AM (silver) 1954 500 Mondial Spyder Scaglietti Series I s/n 0468MD (#57) 1951 212 MM Vignale Berlinetta s/n 0070M (red, no number) 1953 375 MM PF Berlinetta s/n 0322AM (#373) 1973 365 GTS/4 "Daytona" Spyder s/n 17039 (also yellow) | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Junior Member Username: Psk Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2002 |
Yes, Wayne the California is one really good looking convertible. I did not realise that it had a coupe equivalent ... Ferrari have done a good job with the 360 as well, because they have given some form to the rear of the car with the roof up or down. I still prefer the coupes myself, but would not turn a 250 California down Pete | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1011 Registered: 8-2002 |
Pete, I agree with a lot of what you said. In just about all cases, the coupes are far more attractive than their drop-top cousins. There are a couple of rare exceptions, though. Namely the 250 GT California Spyder vs the 250 GT TdF Berlinetta and the 360 Spider vs 360 Modena. JMHO. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Junior Member Username: Psk Post Number: 161 Registered: 11-2002 |
Good to know that some of Microsoft's money is going to a good cause, and especially that he drives them. We need people like this to save these cars. It takes a huge amount of money to correctly restore and run these old cars, and many people without the necessary funds unfortuneately never use them or run them into the ground ... or worse still apply modern solutions or parts to these wonderful old cars. I also can understand why they had trouble selling the 275 spyders ... they are just plain ugly!!!, simple as that. I love the 275GTB, but have to admit that it is slighty awkward from some angles ... but the spyder looses the needed curves of the roof. Sorry major mistake, and how anybody could convert a GTB to a spyder, I just do not understand (if any have been converted), a demonstration of the worst in taste. I also personally think the Daytona convertables do not look as good as the coupe, but they do work a lot better than the 275 Spyders. It is interesting to remember that the E-Type Jaguar would never have been if William Lyons had not seen the mock up for the coupe during design ... that is what got him excited NOT the convertible. I really do not understand the passion some have for convertibles ... who wants wind and rain in your hair at 150mph (note I do not live in California), and motorbikes do the freedom thing so much better! Great collection!! Pete | ||
| Want_a_daytona (Want_a_daytona)
Junior Member Username: Want_a_daytona Post Number: 83 Registered: 7-2002 |
Real nice collection of vintage Italians. | ||
| stu cordova (Balataboy)
Member Username: Balataboy Post Number: 406 Registered: 4-2001 |
As close as I could get without sitting in it!!  | ||
| GThomas (Ferrariartist)
New member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2003 |
Many thanx to you sir, for the correction/info on the 290MM... gotta look that one up.... 60 deg V12, 4390cc, 320 horsepower... all wrapped up in beautiful red wrapping... Fantastic! Grant | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1008 Registered: 8-2002 |
#14: 1956 290MM s/n 0628. I was fortunate enough to see this car race at Laguna Seca and then be presented on the green at Pebble Beach the following day! Beautiful car. | ||
| GThomas (Ferrariartist)
New member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2003 |
Those mechanical drawings are quite something to see. I have a book, Ferrari Design of a Legend by Gianni Rogliatti and Sergio Pininfarina that has those colour drawings reproduced... chassis and body drawings with measurements and such... basically a simplified blueprint of the car. A 1947 125C like you said. They used coloured pencils! Its amazing how much of it makes sence regardless of how crudly its drawn. I have a side view (I can see it on his wall) complete with driver - a cross between Jean Cretien and Homer Simpson - for pedal and controls placement. Amazing, but a hoot, at the same time. To contrast on the following page is the blueprint of the engine, however, - the heart and soul of the car - is precisly drawn in cross-section down to the nuts and bolts. Its obvious what they wanted to spend their time on. Amazing historical documents and works of art at the same time. Its great to know that someones treating them as such! Great shots. Thnx fer posting... (I havent seem them all yet... i just have dial up at home... have to wait to get to work (: ) ps.. a quick scan of the few that i did have patience for... is the one with #14 decal on it... is that a 250 Testa Rossa???? droooooool.. pps.. i think i have some shots of old #20 from the Cavallino Classic a few years ago.. I'll attempt to find and post them... Grant | ||
| Eric Hawley (Eric)
New member Username: Eric Post Number: 42 Registered: 8-2001 |
Rob: there were some real treasures on the wall, like the series of Le Mans posters dating back to 1959. Maybe some of the most intriguing were the original set of sketches(seemingly in crayon or colored chalks maybe?) of the proposed 1947 Ferrari 125C, done by Gioacchino Colombo. Incredible pieces of history!   | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1006 Registered: 8-2002 |
Paul, the blue spyder is a 365 GTB/4 "NART Spyder" commissioned by Chinetti and converted by Michelotto. This is one of five such conversions, s/n 14299. The others are: 14897 (ex-Steve McQueen) recently sold by Symbolic 15003 now with Bob Lee 15965 now with Pat Ryan 16467 now with Ross Provenzano | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3678 Registered: 12-2000 |
I bet some of the artifacts on the wall are very interesting. | ||
| Paul Wehmer (Pwehmer)
Junior Member Username: Pwehmer Post Number: 83 Registered: 10-2002 |
My oh my- what a scene. I will have to admit ignorance as to what model is the blue spyder in the 7th from the bottom picture. I'm sure other will know. Interesting comment that once you own so many you have to have a dedicated person to excercise and maintain the collection. David Gilmour of Pink Floyd fame stated he was getting rid of some of his collector Ferrari cars because of the hastle of sourcing the cars, getting a place to keep them and finding someone qualifyed to maintain them. Said he had to simplify his life and the cars were complicating it. Guess the joys of ownership changes when you have your own personal mueseum. | ||
| John (Modenaf1fan)
Junior Member Username: Modenaf1fan Post Number: 154 Registered: 11-2002 |
WOW | ||
| Eric Hawley (Eric)
New member Username: Eric Post Number: 41 Registered: 8-2001 |
Here are a few more pics of some of the cars we saw Saturday. This beauty stood out because it was unrestored. I partiucularly liked the generic hardware store crews holding the mirror onto the left fender, complete with extra holes in the fender created when some screws were relocated to adjust the mirror.  Only ten of these 275 NART Spyders were made because they couldn't sell them. Guess they forgot to ask me.  Ahhh, just sensational. Anyone want to cut a day off school to take dad's car for a little drive?  | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3674 Registered: 12-2000 |
Let's try to list out all his cars and value them. I'll start... 250 GTO $7-8 Mil 290 MM $5.5-6.5 Mil F1 $800k Daytona Spyder $265-390k 275 NART Spyder $1.7-2.2 Mil I don't know about some of those really old ones, they could be 195, 340, 212, or 225's as far as I know. All custom bodies too with I'm sure great history. What is the TR proto's designation? I'm sure it's $5 mil plus. | ||
| eli (ali) Latif (Ninja_eli)
New member Username: Ninja_eli Post Number: 37 Registered: 5-2002 |
Funnily enough, I'm not a major Ferrari fan, and the older cars don't really do it for me in a mad way, but the 250 is just amazing beauty. Like DES I loved that car before I ever learnt its model name. It stands out a mile and is truly a wonderful looking car. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 375 Registered: 9-2001 |
They are stored in a spec purpose warehouse in Bellevue. It is not open to the public, only when Jon & Mary open the doors. As for high-res pictures, all of mine were reduced 50% to fit the board. I have 50Mb+ I can share if someone has space. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 593 Registered: 10-2001 |
Amazing !!! Any way we can those in High res ?? | ||
| Jason Godsil (Godsil)
Junior Member Username: Godsil Post Number: 231 Registered: 9-2001 |
Where is this located at? I would love to attend something like this. Redmond is in my neck of the woods, if he still lives there. | ||
| ken rentiers (Rentiers)
Junior Member Username: Rentiers Post Number: 72 Registered: 2-2003 |
Any collector who truly loves these cars as Mr. Shirley appears to makes sure the cars are driven regularly. I know another .com in Seattle personally with four Ferraris. Somehow he manages to get them all out on the road on a frequent rotating basis. At some point you stop just taking the Ferrari because you want to and start driving a Ferrari because you HAVE to, crazy as that sounds. The really big collections have permanent driver/mechanic caretakers just like the really large yachts. But for us mere mortals - how many Ferraris is the maximum, before the cars suffer from neglect? (I won't use the words "rational" or "enough") | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 323 Registered: 9-2002 |
Being his mechanic must be a love-hate job... :D --Dan | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2350 Registered: 8-2002 |
9 figures...? The scale cars collection is in thousands, alone...! Dan, i agree, it's nice to hear that he's actually driving these things and not just letting them collect dust in some personal show room- if you drive it, you DEServe it... | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 322 Registered: 9-2002 |
That's fantastic to hear he's a driver... seems to be truly a class act! --Dan | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 374 Registered: 9-2001 |
I'll also add in for the folks not lucky enough to attend, several of the cars represent one of a kind or one of a single digit models and all of the cars that he has shown in Concors type events have won awards. Now that I think about it, 9 figures is not out the question. I took a picture of the placard on each car with model information, a brief history and major awards since joining his collection. He also had a notebook with more extensive information but I will have to review the picture at the lower 640 resolution the board allows to see if they can be read. If folks are interested, I will post these tomorrow, starting to fade to black tonight. - JMG | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 373 Registered: 9-2001 |
Here are a few more pictures that I didn't see earlier in the thread. Perhaps my favorite...   Pit crew in training...   | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1004 Registered: 8-2002 |
A quick scan of only the cars shown in the photos below and I see roughly $35 million in Ferraris alone. I'm sure that Alfa's worth over a mill or more and I have no idea how much the rest of his collection is worth. I think that $100 million is possible but, since most of the big money cars are likely represented in this thread, it's probably less. | ||
| 89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg Post Number: 372 Registered: 9-2001 |
9 Figures would probably be high but then again, many of the cars in his collections are historically significant. Perhaps the most overlooked fact about the collection is that all of the cars are regularly raced and/or driven on the street. Truly a man who enjoys the full Ferrari experience and not just obtaining the cars. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1003 Registered: 8-2002 |
If it's not, it's really close. | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 320 Registered: 9-2002 |
Dear...god... Wayne, do you think I'm off in guessing that the collection's worth is in the 9 figure range? --Dan | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1001 Registered: 8-2002 |
John, no problem. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 483 Registered: 3-2002 |
Wow, that was fast! Thanks for the info | ||
| Chris D (Prohydro)
New member Username: Prohydro Post Number: 47 Registered: 11-2001 |
Is there another trip happening tomorrow? I am beating myself, I had heard this was going to happen but never did hear the day. Please name the time and place, and I'll be there, if a non-ferrari owner can go. | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 595 Registered: 8-2001 |
I was curious so I did a search, chances are people are wondering who this guy is also: http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/features/1998/7-21reorgtimeline.asp Basically, "In August 1983, Jon Shirley, 45, joined Microsoft as president, chief operating officer and director. Prior to Microsoft, Shirley was vice president of computer merchandising at Tandy Corp. and had held a variety of positions in sales, merchandising, manufacturing and international operations. At Microsoft, Shirley provided the young company with the professional business acumen needed to steer it through the birth of the Windows � operating system, the move to the Redmond campus and the initial public offering. Shirley retired from Microsoft on June 30, 1990, but continued to play a role in the management of the company, both as a member of the board of directors and as a consultant for strategic projects. Shirley still remains on the board of directors. " A past Microsoft President, sweet. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2530 Registered: 12-2000 |
DES, I'd say his model collection is about 99% Ferrari. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 999 Registered: 8-2002 |
The s/n number I know. All of the races and how it finished in each? Please, I'm not that good. I have a book on the subject right next to me. I keep my reference materials close at hand. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2340 Registered: 8-2002 |
Wayne, did you have to look that up, or do you just know that, off the top of your head...? | ||
| Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Junior Member Username: Easy_rider Post Number: 214 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wayne, we'll be thinking about you. BTW for some reason the Accountemps commercial is going through my mind right now. "Nerlman, how's the virus..." | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 997 Registered: 8-2002 |
John, too many races to list here but here are the highlights. 1962: Brands Hatch, 2nd overall driven by Roy Salvadori Tourist Trophy, 2nd overall driven by Graham Hill 1963: Whitsun Trophy, 2nd overall driven by Mike McDowell Brands Hatch (Guards Trophy) 1st in class/5th overall driven by Jack Sears Tourist Trophy, 2nd overall driven by Mike Parkes 1964: Tourist Trophy, 6th in class/9th overall driven by Richie Ginther | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2339 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Thanks, Peter... With my two new additions yesterday, my shelf is nearing crowd-condition- i'm gonna have to reorganize everything... Was it all Ferraris, or did he have any other beauties in there...? | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2529 Registered: 12-2000 |
DES, my Dad took some up-close shots of the model cars. I'll try to steal them from his camera and send 'em to you... When I saw this model collection I thought of you right away... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 996 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ron, believe me, I wish I could be there but I have to work. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 482 Registered: 3-2002 |
What is the history of s/n 3729? | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1138 Registered: 8-2001 |
I didn't take any photos of the model cars. Someone probably has a few though. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2335 Registered: 8-2002 |
"Don't forget it." (Crap- i need a scrap book, stat...!) Willis, did you or anyone else take any extensive or close-up photos of the shelf with the scale cars...? | ||
| Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Junior Member Username: Easy_rider Post Number: 212 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wayne, calm down... Don't forget to breathe.... deep breaths..... Whew, we almost lost you there... Wish you could go tomorrow. Not too late to change your mind... See you soon. Ron | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1137 Registered: 8-2001 |
That's the legendary 250 GTO. Mr Shirley himself gave us a bit of history behind each Ferrari. I think a newbie would be impressed by the stories and develop an appreciation for the old cars after close examination. That long model car shelf runs almost the entire width of the building. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 994 Registered: 8-2002 |
Okay. I'm better now. Danny Boy, what are we going to do with you? That is 250 GTO s/n 3729. Don't forget it. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2331 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Sorry, Mr. Ausbrooks, it's still not that easy for me to identify these cars just by looking at them... When i make it out to California, maybe you can help me figure out ways to remember what each one is (but not by serial number )... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 993 Registered: 8-2002 |
THE TOP PICTURE?!! DID YOU ASK WHAT THE CAR IN THE TOP PICTURE WAS?!! AAAAAAAARRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!! | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1136 Registered: 8-2001 |
Yeah, that's me in need of a haircut. I think I was talking to fellow FerrariChat member, Dave Handa, hidden behind my big head. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2329 Registered: 8-2002 |
Oh, man, awesome pictures...! His 1:X collection is tremendous...! Ok, so call me young, call me crazy, call me unappreciative, but i just don't like the really old cars as much as i like the cars from the present and the last 30 or so years... Still, they're nice cars, they just don't do it for me... Sadly, the awesome picture for me here, was the one with the scale cars... Hey, we can't all be normal, right...? On the other hand, i REALLY like the Ferrari in the top picture that you posted, Mr. Ausbrooks- what is that...? Is that a 365 of some sort...? Thanks for sharing, Peter & Wayne, these are great... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 992 Registered: 8-2002 |
Willis, is this you?  I didn't attend. A colleague of mine that lives in Seattle took these photos. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 991 Registered: 8-2002 |
Hey! All of my pics look so dark! Oh well, I'm not uploading all of those again (I'm on 56K dial-up also). If there's any particlular pic that anyone wants to see, I can repost. I actually have them in very clear, large format images. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1135 Registered: 8-2001 |
Wayne, those were the photos from last year. I'm in the 8th picture from top (the guy in the cap). Did you go last year? Unfortunately, the 250 GTO's not present today. The prototype 250 Testa Rossa was new and the Rossellini 375MM was as gorgeous as always. | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2527 Registered: 12-2000 |
The GTO was absent as it was in for "repairs" from this year's GTO reunion "incident"  | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 990 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's better. Here, allow me to add to the gallery:              | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2526 Registered: 12-2000 |
I don't know about you guys, but I see 'em... (Based on your posting times, I was still uploading the pics during then. Remember for the future that I'm on dial-up and it takes awhile, so be patient...  ) | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 390 Registered: 12-2002 |
That man owns all those cars? MY GOD what a lucky guy... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Intermediate Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2327 Registered: 8-2002 |
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| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 989 Registered: 8-2002 |
Peter, what happened with the pics? | ||
| '75 308 GT4 (Peter)
Advanced Member Username: Peter Post Number: 2523 Registered: 12-2000 |
Here's what heaven looks like :  The man himself:  The collection:            It was great seeing everyone again (and finally meeting Hans Hansen in person!) and was a wonderful day! |