| Author | Message | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 356 Registered: 4-2002 |
thanks matthew. | ||
| Matthew J Germane (Mjgermane)
New member Username: Mjgermane Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2003 |
ELI, I just got your email at my hotmail account. I will give it to Geoff today. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 355 Registered: 4-2002 |
Matthew, just send them to both your e-mails. by the way you should be lucky your dad is into cars. Mine hates them. | ||
| Matthew J Germane (Mjgermane)
New member Username: Mjgermane Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2003 |
ELI: Geoff did not get your email. If you want you can try and send me the email at [email protected] or [email protected] and I will give it to him. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 354 Registered: 4-2002 |
I agree with you bruno. the days of dot com is over an you will not find many people willing to pay the premium any longer. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 977 Registered: 5-2002 |
I wouldnt pay it either. That doesnt mean someone who wants one this driving season and doesnt want to wait on list wont do it. It will be interesting to see if it sells and for how$. The economy is not improving and all Fcars sales could grind to a hault. Some models already have. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1149 Registered: 8-2001 |
Ferrari dealers can not charge a premium for customer-ordered cars. I was lucky. I only waited a little over 1 year for mine. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 353 Registered: 4-2002 |
Guys IMHO i could not justify paying $35K-$40K premium on a three year old car specially with today's economy | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 976 Registered: 5-2002 |
But u cant have it now! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 975 Registered: 5-2002 |
i guess another factor here to consider is the wait factor. A lot of people want instant gratification. Spur of the minute buying. I have done it myself before. overpaying on a hot item to get it first and now. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2001 |
Bruno, may be your are misunderstanding me. the sticker price from an auth f- dealer is $170K for this car . | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 974 Registered: 5-2002 |
Where r u getting an 03 today for 170? | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 161 Registered: 4-2001 |
Bruno, the sticker on this car is only around $170K. why wouldn't you buy a new one. it i was offered an o3 spider for $170K , i will jump on it. i would not want to pay $205K for a three year old car. | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 971 Registered: 5-2002 |
Makes u wonder y people are still lineing up to buy new ones. look at the instant depreciation in this market.OUCH | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 970 Registered: 5-2002 |
IMHO Yes. | ||
| p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2003 |
Bruno, you mean the car is priced right! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 968 Registered: 5-2002 |
Right now. whatever someone will pay. And it is not much | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2001 |
wow just found the same car being offered by another dealer.http://www.dupontregistry.com/search/srDetails.asp?itemid=92742&sessionkey={797EA4AB-AC70-40D9-9832-CEDA913C15AD} | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Junior Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2001 |
Interesting... there appears to be three ENZOs for sale on this web site. | ||
| Dennis (Bighead)
New member Username: Bighead Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2003 |
To make a long story short, importing and converting a grey market car from Europe is not that easy. Ferrari North America has been waging (and losing) a legal war for the last 3 years to try to stop the practice. It can still be done, but the total cost will likely be in excess of $20-$25k. You can still save money, of course, but don't forget that you'll have a tougher time selling it on the other end. Make sure to hook up with a reputable and experienced (and registered) importer/converter. vty, --Dennis | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 352 Registered: 4-2002 |
Matthew: i just e-mailed Geoff. please let me know if he got it. I have been having problems sending him e-mails in the past | ||
| Bernd Beitz (Rubber)
New member Username: Rubber Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2003 |
Because U.S. Citizens don't have to pay the German VAT take off 16% from every price before you start your calculation. | ||
| Bernd Beitz (Rubber)
New member Username: Rubber Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2003 |
Just an idea: In Germany Ferrari sells all their cars much cheaper than in the States, no wonder that used and nearly new cars are also less expensive. For an overview just go to www.mobile.de, click on suchen (search) - the light grey button on top. On the next site just choose Ferrari in the upper left menu Marke (brand) and the model in the menu on the right. Start your search with Suche starten and you�ll find roundabout 200 F 360 i.e. To the next site you get by a click on weiter at the bottom of each site. The prices are in EURO, wich means it�s nearly the price in US $. A conversion from Europe to US standard is possible as far as I know, but I�ve no idea about the costs. Shipping and Tax is also on top, but we�re talking about a + 80k difference. As I already said, just an idea. | ||
| Matthew J Germane (Mjgermane)
New member Username: Mjgermane Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2003 |
Here is the link for Geoff Germane's car. http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/196164.html | ||
| I can't drive 55 (Sparetireless)
New member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2003 |
You need to live a little, my new pinky (nugget) ring and gold chains felt weird at first too. Now, me and my "Mr. T" shields are stylin. Plus, all those people out there that cannot identify the car need a little extra help, the shields save from all the tiring questions about what kind of car it is. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1148 Registered: 8-2001 |
It's not the quality of the shields that I'm concerned about (I've seen enough of them). I just think they're tacky. Sorry, it's a personal preference thing. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1147 Registered: 8-2001 |
Sorry, I'll never buy a convertible. | ||
| I can't drive 55 (Sparetireless)
New member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 25 Registered: 1-2003 |
At first shields seem a little over the top but after you see'em up close, no other car has them, you only do it once. The quality is excellent. | ||
| Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Junior Member Username: Shelbee Post Number: 85 Registered: 12-2002 |
Hey Willis, Ferraris need to have shields to make it Ferrari  Perhaps trade your car with this Spyder for $50k?? See you Saturday. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1146 Registered: 8-2001 |
The rear challenge grill is good for extra air circulation. The spider's engine compartment is pretty tight so every bit will help cool it down. Plus, if you decide to buy it instead of option it with the car, it'll cost you triple from FNA. I don't like the shields on road cars (except for limited edition cars). Just a personal preference and I think they invite vandalism. | ||
| Al LaPeter (Lapeter)
Junior Member Username: Lapeter Post Number: 53 Registered: 6-2002 |
I have yet to spec out my 360 spider. Is the challenge grill important for racing and I guess the shields are a personal taste. I'm not sure about shields. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 348 Registered: 4-2002 |
Jeff, challenge grill and the shield are the number one and two most wanted options on the 360's. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 347 Registered: 4-2002 |
Dave, nobody is questioning the integrity of the seller. i personaly spoke to Jeff and found him to be very forthcoming. but the question here is if the car is worth $205K. if i was willing to spend $205K for a spider then i would definetly take Geoff's 02 with only 180 miles on it. it is just a much better value | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 802 Registered: 1-2002 |
I have driven this car--it is truly flawless & beautiful. And the seller is a person of integrity, IMO. | ||
| Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m Post Number: 89 Registered: 9-2002 |
Where was the post, couldn't find it. | ||
| Matthew J Germane (Mjgermane)
New member Username: Mjgermane Post Number: 9 Registered: 1-2003 |
Geoff Germane is selling his 2002 360 Spider for $205, but he is willing to negotiate. It only has 180 miles. He posted it a few weeks ago on F-Chat if you want to take a look. | ||
| BJ (Bjkim)
Junior Member Username: Bjkim Post Number: 57 Registered: 10-2002 |
maybe the shield and challenge grill.... also TUBI IMHO, those 3 options are the most important. | ||
| Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m Post Number: 87 Registered: 9-2002 |
What are the missing options on this car? It has the extended leather, xenon, red calipers,power seats and cd changer, besides f1 trans and daytona seats, what is left to get? Just wondering. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 346 Registered: 4-2002 |
I hired him already! | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2859 Registered: 9-2001 |
agreed, maybe he should hire that guy from Rochester who sold a 01 with 3k miles for 227k. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 345 Registered: 4-2002 |
Tom, you can pickup a 02 or an 03 for that price. one of the F-chat members had a 02 for sale with very minimal mileage for around 205K. I tried to make a deal with Jeff but the price is just too high. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2858 Registered: 9-2001 |
that's jeff's car, he was looking for 225. The market is falling though | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2001 |
$185K. That's what i would pay today. | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1816 Registered: 9-2001 |
The starting bid is more than its worth IMHO. And, I believe time will prove me right. | ||
| p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2003 |
sorry , here is the link http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2404360357&category=6212 | ||
| p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge Post Number: 7 Registered: 1-2003 |
What do you guys think this 360 spider is worth in today's market. Keep in mind that the car does not have many options. thanks |