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Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 84 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 4:27 pm: | |
The bolts that Ferrari supply are Grade 10.9 steel (you can just about see the identification on the top) that look as though they have been either "Spray Zinc" or tin plated - If you have a look closely at the threads they can be partially filled up with what ever they have used - look in the hex socket and you will see it built up in the bottom. The pic shows the mounting holes I used on the 348. Sorry about quality of photo but the flash plays havoc with the reflection! Paul
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 274 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 6:50 am: | |
Peter, maybe they were aluminum (it's been awhile). They were indeed allen head. |
Peter Polasek (Peterp)
Junior Member Username: Peterp
Post Number: 54 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 6:09 am: | |
I ordered the 355 pedals from Wide World of Cars in NY. There were different size bolts for brake/clutch and gas, but all of them are aluminum allen bolts rather than SS. I put three in the gas pedal - 2 side by side in the top and one in the bottom -- I'm not sure if this is the correct way to install it or not, but I'm pretty sure it's not going to fall off -- they sent 3 bolts, I installed 3 bolts. They were also kind enough to send a copy of the pedal diagram from the 355 parts catalog -- but the way it's drawn, you can't really tell where the bolts go. I just looked at Mike's pictures for the brake/clutch and winged it on the gas pedal. Ferrari part numbers for the bolts are listed below: gas pedal: 14440734 (alum allen bolt) 14058311 (nut) brake/clutch: 1441324 (alum allen bolt) 15896214 (nut) |
Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 82 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, March 01, 2003 - 4:08 am: | |
Mike, Thanks for the feedback - We ship them out with M6 for the Brake/Clutch & M5 for the Gas pedal. David, You have mail Paul |
David C. (Worth_it)
Junior Member Username: Worth_it
Post Number: 69 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:44 pm: | |
Paul, I have been trying to e-mail you a reply. Must be a server problem. Please forward me the information you mentioned in your e-mail so I can order a set. Can't wait to get them installed. Post a reply here and e-mail me if you don't mind.
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 272 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 2:04 pm: | |
Paul: The Ferrari dealer originally sent me six identical ss nuts and bolts, but as you noted, they wouldn't properly fit through the gas pedal holes though they worked fine for the other two pedals. I tried enlarging one of the holes in the gas pedal so the threaded part of the bolt would go through, but then the countersink wasn't deep enough and the bolt head was raised above the surface (not good). The parts guy at Ferrari of Atlanta told me those are the bolts that Ferrari specifies for all three pedals, but he tried them while I stayed on the phone and said I was right, and sent me two slightly smaller diameter ss bolts/nuts for the gas pedal, no charge. I did not have to use a longer one for the lower bolt on the gas pedal. I didn't put it in the lowermost hole, but in the second one up from the bottom and it was fine.
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Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 78 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 12:16 pm: | |
Mike C, Out of interest, did you use smaller bolts on the gas pedal (M5)- As the Ferrari ones have smaller holes (5.4mm dia) on the gas pedal compared to the Brake/clutch? (6.5mm dia). I can�t understand why they did that, as the countersinking is near enough the same size. Also on your car did you have to use a longer bolt on the lower fixing of the Gas pedal? Thanks for the comments Paul
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 271 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 11:17 am: | |
Steven: Look at my profile... you WILL see some differences on the exterior! Ron R, here's how I put in the bolts.
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Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
Junior Member Username: Enjoythemusic
Post Number: 184 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 8:27 am: | |
Mike, Wonderful! Had to do a double take as your car looks EXACTLY as mine does. Same pedals and shifter. (Humor) Maybe your car and mine are the EXACT same car... Call it the randomness of particle theory :-) Enjoy the Drive, Steven R. Rochlin
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Justin Randall Kenyon (Kenyon)
Junior Member Username: Kenyon
Post Number: 143 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Friday, February 28, 2003 - 12:04 am: | |
My F348 Spider with a set F355 pedals like Paul Hill version. No difference I do not think.
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Ron R (Ronr)
Junior Member Username: Ronr
Post Number: 137 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 10:56 pm: | |
Is there a standard for which holes to use for mounting? I just got a set, and haven't installed them yet. I can tell from Mike's picture where the clutch and brake pedal fasteners were installed, but can't tell on the go pedal. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 268 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 5:31 pm: | |
Here's the dealer set in my 308QV. I think it's a nice look with the aluminum shift knob (from TeamVoodoo)
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Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Junior Member Username: Pupz308
Post Number: 135 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 4:59 pm: | |
Those do look sharp--I've ordered a set and will post here when I receive them. They do look identical to stock 355, which is to say, awesome. They appear identical to the ones sold here, at Italian Car Parts (dot com): http://www.italiancarparts.com/accessories/shiftknobs_pedalpads_gatevault.html This set (above, at italiancarparts.com) set goes for $200 before shipping ($16). Mike, you got a pretty good deal going through the dealer--I've heard from others who have spent more than that from a dealer. Paul's set looks identical (size, shape, hole count and location, texture pattern), is also AL, for $96 plus shipping (I'd estimate $15 or so for shipping from UK). It's so nice not to feel like I'm getting taken. I'll post when I've got them installed. --Mike
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Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 74 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, February 27, 2003 - 2:02 am: | |
Thanks for all the feedback - greatly appreciated Paul |
Phil Good (Feelnotbad)
New member Username: Feelnotbad
Post Number: 5 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 6:54 am: | |
Very nice. The final touch after the slick shift and the aluminium gear knob! I will order a set. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 267 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, February 26, 2003 - 6:30 am: | |
I paid about $135 plus shipping at a Ferrari dealer including mounting nuts and bolts. If shipping from the U.K. isn't bad, Paul's set seems like a good deal. |
Dennis (Bighead)
New member Username: Bighead
Post Number: 16 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 10:51 pm: | |
Paul, these look like stock 355 pedals (348 Challenge pedal, hence the title of this thread?)... They ARE available from your local dealer as well as the usual sources... BUT, I suspect that the set is (much) more expensive than what Paul's asking. FWIW, it's a pretty good upgrade for 348s. vty, --Dennis
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Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 266 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 6:21 pm: | |
Very nice, and a nice price also. If I didn't already have them from the dealer, I'd be ordering a set. |
Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 62 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 5:29 pm: | |
John, Jay Yes, they are for sale. If anyone is interested they can email me at [email protected] Thanks for the interest! Paul
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Jay S. Morris (J_saber)
Junior Member Username: J_saber
Post Number: 59 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 5:26 pm: | |
Paul, those look awesome. I wouldn't mind having a set. Let me know. You might as well post it because I am sure we're not the only two. Jay |
JPM (John_308qv)
Junior Member Username: John_308qv
Post Number: 96 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 5:20 pm: | |
Nice. Are these for sale? |
Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul
Post Number: 61 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, February 25, 2003 - 5:08 pm: | |
Have finally got round to producing the Aluminium pedals. I have an order from 2 Ferrari shops here in the UK and we are running a batch at the moment. They work out at �60.00 ($96.00 approx) a set - complete with all the fixings. So what do you think?
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