| Author | Message | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Junior Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 234 Registered: 12-2002 |
It's the law in Belgium to have one in the cabin! Ton | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 1002 Registered: 6-2001 |
I didn't, but when I get it back I will. Despite putting it out almost immediately, the repair will be over 15k. Art | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 1000 Registered: 5-2002 |
The smallest of top end engine fires in a 308 will do so much damage if not extinguished. See so many cars for sale for peanuts after one. Get an extinguisher and use it if necessary. I (knock on wood) havent used it yet. Well on a fcar anyway. I had a 72 vette light up before. | ||
| matt (Matthewmag)
New member Username: Matthewmag Post Number: 15 Registered: 11-2002 |
Two stories to illustrate the usefulness of having a correctly installed fire extinguisher: 1. An acquaintance had a fire in his Fiat (the factory insulation around the turbo caught fire when he was on the motorway). He pulled over and, having only his biological extinguisher, popped the bonnet, stood on the bumper and pi$$ed over his engine. This diverted the attention of passing drivers but fortunately didn't cause an accident. 2. Another acquaintance had a minor but expensive fire in his Mondial. After the repair he got an extinguisher but didn't fix it in the car. Within a week, it had flung loose and cracked the windscreen. Psk, I agree, all Italian cars should have a fire extinguisher. Isn't it mandatory in Italy? I've been in 2 cars that caught fire (an NSU and an Alfa), it's not funny. | ||
| rich (Dino2400)
Junior Member Username: Dino2400 Post Number: 153 Registered: 10-2001 |
I always carry one even though my cars aren't worth Ferrari money! In the Dino Fiat Coupe I once restarted after some hard mountain driving in Oregon and it backfired through the carbs and travelled through the breather tubes because of the way I had them attached to my "performance" foam filter housing above the three DCNFs (silly me, didn't have spark arrestors) and blew the dip stick up and sprayed a bit of oil out. It was like "boom" and smoke rising out of the hood and before I could even grab my extinguisher there were six guys standing with their own extinguishers saying "pop the hood!" It was just a little smoke from the hot oil so no big deal. Started it with the filler cap off, put it back on and drove 600 miles home (and put in spark arrestors!). The others were all driving Fiats and Alfas (some cars were hillclimb cars that require them but others were just streetcars) and so we all consider extinguishers necessary equipment! | ||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 983 Registered: 5-2002 |
A must have. Mine is also mounted in front of passenger seat. | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1463 Registered: 1-2001 |
My guess would be that the KB TR mount would not fit a 308 -- I'll email you some of the design sketches tonight so you can check. | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 168 Registered: 3-2002 |
Steve M. Do you know if the KB bracket will fit on the 308 runners? Michael C. Amazing work on your bracket! If the KB guys can't do it, I'm going to build one of yours. Thanks for sharing your design! | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 167 Registered: 3-2002 |
Are you guys familiar with Halotron1? It is a liquid based retardant that vaporizes upon release. My understanding is that it is FAA/EPA approved and much more "green" than Halon 1211. I understand that the shelf life is also better than Halon. Your comments have convinced me that there really is no reason not to install one. Now I just have to find a bracket that will fit. I emailed Krey Braus for info, Any more help fellas? | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1461 Registered: 1-2001 |
Ming -- I've noted that the pressure gauge on the ext. will get up near the top of it's "green" range in the summertime (say ~90 deg F ambient, sunshine, but with FlannelGaurd cover on). | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 735 Registered: 10-2001 |
I have one in my Lotus. I used to keep it behind the seat but I realized it took me a long time to wrench it out. And that's with no panic, so now it's in the front boot. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 2873 Registered: 9-2001 |
read the label - you should definetly have a halon one in the car not the trunck. | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 207 Registered: 5-2002 |
One silly question for you guys. Do you think if there is any danger to have the extinguisher in the cabin under the sun with outside temp more than 38c or 102F? (temp. in cabin might be as high as 50c) | ||
| Erik R. K. Jonsson (Gamester)
Member Username: Gamester Post Number: 280 Registered: 11-2000 |
Abso flippin lutely. Halon. Cheapest insurance you can buy. Look at the thread with the minor engine fire, which was so quickly doused by a prepared owner. | ||
| FABS (Caruso348)
New member Username: Caruso348 Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2002 |
Halon is the only way to go. Halon gas is inert and will leave no residue. Wet chemical extinguisher will corrode engine metals! I have an auto halon system installed in my 348. Halon tank is secured in front trunk so that if can't get airborne in the cockpit. Aluminum tubing runs through front into shift cable trough into the engine compartment where spray nozzles are mounted for maximum coverage. An electronic switch is in the console which activates the tank in a as much time as it takes you to depress the switch. An extinguisher in the cockpit might very well get airborne and do some serious damage to people and car alike. Also seems that by the time you realize you are flaming, unstrap tank, get out to get to engine compartment and open up there's probably going to be a ton of damage anyway. | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 270 Registered: 8-2002 |
Halon is definitely the way to go, ESPECIALLY because of the aluminum! Check the ads in Forza and Prancing Horse magazines. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Junior Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 191 Registered: 3-2002 |
This has been on my todo list for a while... since we have a thread going... I'd like to get a fire extinguisher for my 360... any pre-fab'd units available at a reasonable price? I assume the thing to get is Halon... but then with an all aluminum car, maybe not? Explicit directions welcome. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3762 Registered: 12-2000 |
Extinguisher | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 269 Registered: 8-2002 |
Thanks Barry! I leave mine in all the time too. Passengers don't seem to mind since it's so close to the seat that it doesn't take away their foot/leg room.  As Barry mentioned, plans for this mount (and some others) are at www.TradeTutor.com/raceprep/ | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1457 Registered: 1-2001 |
I carry a 2.5 lb Halon ext. on a Brey-Krause mount in front of my TR's passenger seat:  Too damn many high pressure fuel connections on the injected engines (and too many old rubber hoses on the carbed V8s). Steve C. -- If you do decide to carry one I wouldn't carry it in the trunk -- you might not be able to get to it. On this subject (last I heard), Brey-Krause (http://www.bkauto.com) was still interested in developing more F products. If you're located in their area I'm sure they'd let you keep the prototype if you make your car available for design & test fitting. | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 206 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have one in the Glove box which is a pretty small one about 750cc only | ||
| Noelrp (Noelrp)
Junior Member Username: Noelrp Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2001 |
I have one. I figure - $150 is not bad to protect my car from further damage (in case of fire). It looks good in the car too. | ||
| PSk (Psk)
Junior Member Username: Psk Post Number: 192 Registered: 11-2002 |
I personally believe that any Italian car should have a fire extinguisher installed. I have had a friend loose his Lancia due to fire, standing on the side of the road watching his classic burn to the ground apparently was not much fun  ... and we all know tht Italian wiring and electrics are humourous at the best. Pete | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 422 Registered: 2-2002 |
I keep a 2.5 lb Halon extinguisher mounted via "The Charness Harness" to the passenger seat runners. http://www.tradetutor.com/raceprep/ Barry ps to Mike Charness Thank-you, again! | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2040 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think wet type is best cus Ive heard dry ones get everywhere & can corrode the metal. Keep it in the cockpit so you can grab it quickly, make sure it has a metal bracket | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Junior Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 164 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hello All, I was wondering how many owners keep a fire extinguisher in their Ferraris? I am speaking of your street cars, and not track cars. And for those who do, do you recommend a dry or wet type? And secondly, do you keep it in the trunk area to protect the $$$$$engine, or cabin? TIA for your comments. Steve |