| Author | Message | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Junior Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 241 Registered: 12-2002 |
Live your dream! Don't give up. Welcome to Fchat! Ton | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 695 Registered: 10-2002 |
How about Karl Marx "In the end there will be one company and then the Government will take it over. Best Jim | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 527 Registered: 3-2002 |
Jim, I second Liar's Poker(read it a few years ago, might have to re-read). Also, The New New Thing was interesting. Currently I am about to finish Monkey Business. After that I'll have to check out some of the others you listed. As for Keynes, you just gotta love his quote, "In the long run we're all dead." | ||
| Ming Cheng (Onlinesys)
Junior Member Username: Onlinesys Post Number: 214 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hi Tony, I don't think you have to make any dream. Just spend less on other hobbies and definitely you could buy a Ferrari. One of our Sunday drive colleague just bought a 308 qv for only US$19.5K in great condition. Take your time. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 580 Registered: 12-2001 |
Jim, I LOVED Liar's Poker! Great book. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 688 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jason Liar's Poker Barbarians at the Gate The New New Thing Den of Thieves Galbraith John Maynard Keynes Karl Marx Samuleson | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 828 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hey JimE, was that 308GT4 the same one that was owned by some university and used as a test vehicle of some sort? At $6000, did you buy it? Where is it located? (I don't mind considering lower grade cars that others would turn down.) | ||
| Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Junior Member Username: Pristines4 Post Number: 154 Registered: 12-2002 |
"I am thinking all I need to do is picture myself in a Ferrari. Buy the posters for my walls, the toy model, some books on the care and feeding of a Ferrari, and I could be on my way toward fulfilling the dream of a lifetime." While all of that is well and dandy, maybe you should get the maintnance books when you cross that bridge. In the mean time, I recommend picking up a few investment or money managing books. I highly suggest "Rich Dad, Poor Dad." This book opening my eyes to the power of money, and I've been building like a snowball ever since. I, too, wish to own a (read: many) Ferrari(s) one day. I know for a fact it will happen. No doubt in my mind now that I've begun my trip through the real learning process. Jason- | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1373 Registered: 7-2001 |
If you know how to do the work, I don't think ownership is that expensive. Last weekend I came across a 308GT4 that needs a head gasket, but is otherwise strong mechanically for $6000. It's body and interior are rough, but they wouldn't keep it from being driven. The mechanic said the head gasket was about a $1500 fix. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2066 Registered: 2-2001 |
Good idea to take an auto repair class to do your own maintenance & save big $. You can also cross reference FIAT parts & save some $ there | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 744 Registered: 10-2001 |
Arlie is right on target. I learned to be less 'car poor' by realizing I can screw up my car for a lot less money than my mechanic can. | ||
| Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
New member Username: Leepierce Post Number: 27 Registered: 1-2003 |
Wait!...Ron!...I was going on the assumption that all things were possible THROUGH debt. I must have it all screwed up. I better go earn some money now to pay that resurrection bill on my 308. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 572 Registered: 12-2001 |
Arlie, LOL Tony, like Ron said, get rid of your debt and start investing today. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 475 Registered: 5-2002 |
Tony, Knock out all of your debt and anything can be possible.. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 826 Registered: 5-2002 |
It's called being "car poor". A syndrome that is a relative term applicable to any car buff regardless of income. Add the cost of the car to the cost of maintenance to the cost of insurance to the cost of storage, etc. Also refered to as a pipe dream. Also used in reference to a restorable car. "Restoration time" is where "tomorrow" becomes next year, and "someday" becomes never. As in, "I'm going to work on it tomorrow" or "I won't sell it because I'm going to restore it someday". Don't ask how I know. | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 427 Registered: 12-2002 |
I heard a story of a guy who only made about 30-40k a year and dreampt of owning a ferrari so much he put himself in a smaller apartment and bought a 308. Not sure how true it is, but I know its possible...probably my future! | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2048 Registered: 2-2001 |
nut you have to be rich to do the maintenance  LOL | ||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Junior Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 231 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hey Tony. Keep that dream alive. Some day, maybe you own a Ferrari. Here in Denmark were I live, it could never happend. We have 80% taxes on our cars, so you have to be very rich to own a Ferrari here. Good Luck mate | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2512 Registered: 8-2002 |
Tony, i hope you realize your dream... Keep us posted... & welcome to FerrariChat... | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 825 Registered: 11-2001 |
You don't have to be a millionaire...... ...but it helps, right? ain't it the truth. doody. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Member Username: Doody Post Number: 824 Registered: 11-2001 |
the total five year cost of ownership of a given ferrari is not all that hard to figure out, absent unforeseeable failures or events. just ask - i'm sure some owners will be happy to share info. obviously the five year costs for a 308 today are different than a new enzo. doody. | ||
| Tony Safina (Tsafina)
New member Username: Tsafina Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2003 |
...but it helps, right? I joined this chat because I was doing research for a client about the total cost to own a Ferrari -- the kind of five year profile a suburbanite might do before deciding on the best SUV for his/her needs and budget. While never finding this info I still benefited from my visit here because I had hoped from the young age of 12 that someday I might own an exotic sports car, maybe a Ferrari. At the same same, all my life, I was of the belief you also had to be filthy rich to own one. My visit here has shown me that I shouldn't give up hope yet. While it helps to be filthy rich I am now of the opinion that some who post here do not earn a lot more than I could earn if I really put my mind to it. I am thinking all I need to do is picture myself in a Ferrari. Buy the posters for my walls, the toy model, some books on the care and feeding of a Ferrari, and I could be on my way toward fulfilling the dream of a lifetime. So, while I didn't get what I came here for, I left with something else -- I left with the realization that you shouldn't give up on your earliest dreams because you just never know what might happen someday if you don't stop trying. |