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Vince (Manatee)
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Username: Manatee

Post Number: 167
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 5:04 am:   

Thanks Doody. It seems like the suspension ECU swap could be an easy job with very positive results.
Nick Yim (Yimn)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 4:54 am:   

Red, thanks for your answer. I check the part number for both the 550 and 575 posted by you, they are exactly the same. Is that mean both cars use the same parts? Do you think you can get the technical bulletin for the 550 as well?
Thanks
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 187
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 2:00 am:   

damn laptop---
574+1= 575

sorry--long day!!!!
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 186
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 09, 2003 - 1:59 am:   

Nick--
If you are talking about the 4th post from the bottom, that is all 550 only. The 574 parts are listed in the PDF file.

Doody--
No problem.
Nick Yim (Yimn)
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Post Number: 13
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Saturday, March 08, 2003 - 10:27 am:   

Red, is the par listing you provided for the 550 or 575? l love to retro-fit the FHP. Anyone knows whether it is possible.

thx
Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Post Number: 20
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Friday, March 07, 2003 - 5:11 pm:   

Great info, Red. Doody, the FHP option for the 575M was $3,213 to be exact. Maybe the dealers can perhaps intall it on the cars that didn't have it as an option. I'm not sure.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 846
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 6:15 pm:   

red - you rock. many thanks.

does FoLG have these parts? curious to know the cost (not the interior stuff).

thanks,
doody.
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 179
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

Eddie---

You cursed me, I spelled brake-break on the interior components below!!!! OOPSSS
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun

Post Number: 61
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   

Very interesting stuff, thank you, Rich!
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 178
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 2:17 pm:   

Here's some more info from FNA that I just ran across.
application/pdfUpload
1096-Handling Fiorano.pdf (216.5 k)
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 175
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 06, 2003 - 12:34 pm:   

One more list for the 575 owners.....

67126800 x1 LH Seat Side Moulding
67126700 x1 RH
66835800 x1 Handbreak cover
66835500 x1 Tunnel Console
189434 x1 Inst. Cluster--Us Cars
65596800 x1 LH Kick Plate
65596700 x1 RH Kick Plate
165483 x1 Carbon Knob
Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Post Number: 16
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 3:36 pm:   

Red, its very easy to make the assumption as you have based on the cars you've seen. I would have easily made the same assumption. No need to apologize. I believe I had a spelling error on my last post: BRAKE, not BREAK!
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 166
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 3:11 pm:   

Hey All,

Ok--I will change what I said in short order. On the 550/575's, your are correct on the fact that they are two seperate kits. I based that info off the fact that every single 550/575 that has been delivered through the old FLG that had the FHP had both options.

So, that is 100% my mistake and retract the comments. BUT, those are the correct part #'s for the carbon interior!!

And regarding all the "hard parts", they are Fiorano specific on the CD. So, in reagards to the rotors, there is only one part # in the CD, no options for the Fiorano.

Once again, Sorry, MY fault 100%.

Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Username: Lee168

Post Number: 15
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 1:54 pm:   

Red, it's entirely possible that the cars can simultaneously have the FHP and the Carbon interior pieces at the same time. This happens when the cars are equipped with "both" options. Some cars, however, came (were ordered) with only the FHP and thus, no carbon interior pieces. Again, I'm only referencing to the 575M and I am not familiar with the other models' optional assortment. BTW, the 575M's FHP includes also the red break calipers.
Manu (Manu)
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Username: Manu

Post Number: 661
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:29 pm:   

I agree with EFWUN - in the UK the FHP costs around �2000 - the carbon fibre pack is �4k - they are certainly not bundled together.
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun

Post Number: 41
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 12:07 pm:   

Rich, I'm not trying to be rude, but the reason my car doesn't have carbon fiber interior accent parts is because they're not part of the Fiorano package. If you're looking at rotor part numbers and telling us that the Fiorano package rotors are identical numbers to the standard rotors, then I accept your statement. I was, however, given different info, both from the dealer, and from an email to owners.ferrari.
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 165
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 11:34 am:   

Every single Fiorano equiped car that I have seen has had the carbon fiber interior. I am not that familar with the ordering process on the sales side of things, so I can not comment on why your cars do not have the carbon.

ALL F355 Fiorans, all 104 of them, have the carbon highlights without a doubt.

As far as the brakes rotors being different, they are not on the 550/575 cars at all. On the F355Fioranos, they are cross drilled, which was a sales option when ordering the car, so those are not exclusive to the fiorano cars.
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun

Post Number: 40
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Tuesday, March 04, 2003 - 11:04 am:   

Absolutely no carbon parts in my 550, an '01 with Fiorano. Cannot believe I forgot to mention the pads, but you don't want these pads, believe me!! Nothing like stopping at a light with a horrific, fingernails-on-a-blackboard screetch. Miller Motors did the pad goo fix, and they STILL squeal like you can't imagine.
I'm also told the rotors are different composition.
Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Post Number: 14
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 9:03 pm:   

Red, the Fiorano Handling Package does NOT include the interior carbon fiber cosmetic components, at least not in the 575M. I'm not sure about the other models such as the 355 and/or the 550.
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 164
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:51 pm:   

The pads are designed more or less for track use.

On the F355/550FHP/550B/575FHP, all of them have Carbon interiors. That is the eaisest way to tell if a car has the FHP.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 839
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 3:34 pm:   

Red - that's stellar, many thanks!

Interesting that it includes replacement (presumably different than stock?) brake pads.

I wasn't even aware there were interior cosmetic mods.

Doody.
Red (Redhead)
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Username: Redhead

Post Number: 163
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 2:37 pm:   

The offical list from FNA~
x2 175886 Front springs
x2 175887 Rear Springs
x1 175890 Rear Sway bar
x2 130533 Rear sway bar bushings
x1 175949 Susp. ECU
X1 175891 ECU Relay
x1 70000952 Front (squeaky) Pads
x1 70000953 Rear Pads

Interior parts--
x1 165483 Shift Knob
x2 65599700 Kick Plate Alum. Ferrari
x1 65596800 LH Carbon Kick Plate
x1 65596700 RH Carbon Kick Plate
x1 185850 or 177409 Inst. Cluster in Carbon
X1 177410 Small Center 3 gauges Cluster, in Carbon
X1 65646300 Center Console, with a Sony Deck
X1 65969200 " " " " Becker Deck
X1 65599300 LH Door pocket in carbon
X1 65599500 RH door Pocket in carbon

Hope this helps!!!!

I have the complete F355 list as well, if anyone would like it posted.
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun

Post Number: 39
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, March 03, 2003 - 1:53 pm:   

I'm sure I posted a reply on here somewhere. Your list sounds complete, including the steering, which has a quicker ramp up in effort, most assist gone by 35mph. The car is lower, but I haven't had any where near the driveway issues I had on my 355s. Don't know about retro-fit, but I'm willing to bet it would be very expensive.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 831
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:55 am:   

this is from a Forza article issue #9 Feb. 1998
http://www.theautochannel.com/publications/magazines/forza/number9/pg38.frame

* lowered (10 mm at the front, 15 mm at the back) and stiffened suspension using 25% stiffer springs

* 21 mm bigger rear anti-sway bar

* rechip of the electronic damping system (by Bilstein). it retains the sport setting switch and apparently operates (causes adjustments) faster than the stock settings.

* rechip of the ZF Servotronic speed-sensitive steering (a "meatier" feel), though above 55 MPH it apparently is the same setup as the stock.

does this ring true to those in the know? is this a complete list?

i'm not certain i can imagine the car LOWER. it's already a nightmare exiting driveways and the like.

doody.
Mr. Doody (Doody)
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Username: Doody

Post Number: 829
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Sunday, March 02, 2003 - 11:26 am:   

at the risk of beating a dead horse, i'd like to raise this beast once again. we've had a number of threads on the board here with questions about the FHP. to date, i am unaware of any authoritative, specific answers to any of the questions posted. i find this tough to understand given the number and makeup of folks on this board. someone has to know the answers to these questions.

(A) what exactly does the FHP consist of?

(B) what performance characteristics does it change and how (quantitatively and qualitatively)?

(C) can it be retro-fitted to a car that was not ordered with it, and if so by whom and at what sort of cost.

it is/was a $2500-$3000 option depending upon how and when you want to do your currency conversions.

any info much appreciated.

FHP-curious,
doody.

PS: if there are in fact answers to some or all of these questions, please accept my apology, and please toss a pointer up for those of us in the cheap seats! i have not found or seen good answers.

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