| Author | Message | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2670 Registered: 8-2002 |
John Lee, VERY nice observation of the Testarossa similarity- there's definitely some similar qualities there... Someone mentioned that there's something in Italian design that's not in German design and, although that's somewhat of a generalization (i'll try not to get too p.c. here  ), i must say, it kinda rings true... i'm not saying i'm disappointed, but there's a definite difference between the Diablos and the Murcielago and this new Gallardo... First off, the Gallardo totally resembles the Murcielago- especially the front... Second, they're sort of boxy (in a smooth-lined way, if that makes any sense)... i'd definitely take one of the new Bulls, don't get me wrong, but i do feel like they've lost something since the "takeover"... i think the new ones are absolutely beautiful, but the Diablo still remains as my favorite Lamborghini... i definitely would NOT take one of these over a 360- just can't do it... i WILL however step waaaay out there to say that i like the wheels on the Lamborghinis more than the ones on most Ferraris... (Is that a sacrilege...? Can i say that on a Ferrari board...? ) Now those wheels on that Gallardo would look MUCH better if they were the continuously spinning ones... (What's WRONG with you people, how come none of you have these on your exotics...? ) | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 342 Registered: 6-2002 |
Oh my god Ernesto, you crack me up. I never claim my cars are the best. I also dont claim to own cars i dont!LOL | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1305 Registered: 2-2001 |
Allan just babbles for the sake of babbling, insulting, and demeaming other peoples things. He has a need to feel superior to everyone by trying to convince people that HIS cars are the best. He sure TALKS alot about racing... ultimate poser if you ask me... | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 341 Registered: 6-2002 |
Terry, you are correct. I just like messing with Ernesto because he's a POSER. Also, no longer own a NSX, replaced with a 2000 Lotus TT. | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 241 Registered: 9-2001 |
I know it is improper to but in on a good one on one, especially when it is Ernesto vs. Allan, but Z06s and Vipers are great cars to be lumped into that group as far as performance goes, that is pretty damn good. Why are you bringing up price when you own a NSX, 348, and Diablo, you certainly were not bargain shopping for best HP for the dollar there were you. You could saved a lot of money and bought a Supra put all kinds of body modifications and (according to James dixon) had over 900HP. Exotic cars are not about price shopping they are about performance, style, sound, smell and so on and so on.... neither of you seem to regret your purchase diablo or 360 why the hostility? They are both great cars. Rational arguments about cost vs. horsepower never make since when you are talking about exotics there are way to many things to consider. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 340 Registered: 6-2002 |
No we're talking about a SUPRA!!!!!! | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1304 Registered: 2-2001 |
If my crosseyed what? Sorry, a car probably has to have 6 scoops, 2 wings, chrome wheels, letters splattered all over the sides, flip up doors, and NOS for you to consider it good looking. Wait, are we talking about a tricked out ricer or a Diablo? LOL.. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 339 Registered: 6-2002 |
Oh yes Ernesto, your right, just as fast around the Nurburgring. Your right, but remember the Acura Nsx is even faster around the RING, and better looking than a 360. Yes Ernesto, a 360 is much better looking than a Diablo, if your cross eyed. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1303 Registered: 2-2001 |
The 360 is MUCH better looking than a Diablo... and just as fast around the N-Ring. Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 338 Registered: 6-2002 |
Mediocre performance is described as having to fear Corvette Z06's and Dodge Vipers for three times the price. A 360 is ugly, especially side view. A 550 beautiful? Not a chance. Boring. But Ernesto is onto something, maybe some stripes and chrome wheels would help. Nah, still be boring. | ||
| Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Junior Member Username: Karmavore Post Number: 77 Registered: 12-2002 |
The 550 is more beautiful than just about anything. That's a fact. Still, I'd rather have a Diablo cos I like attention. | ||
| john (Johnwto)
Junior Member Username: Johnwto Post Number: 60 Registered: 6-2002 |
allan- Ferrari 360-decent car, relatively bland, mediocre performance, same price range as Gallardo, whose performance and styling are superior. bland??? what are you talking about?? do you know how much attention this car draws? too much. mediocre performace? there are probably less than five cars on the market (excluding super cars ie. f40, mclaren etc) that can take the 360 in a straight line and on the track. is that mediocre? the gallardo has not proven at all that it has superior performace. let's reserve judgement on that. more hp does not necessarily mean better performace. and the styling of the gallardo is personal. i think it's ugly as hell and would never even consider buying one. in fact i think the Murcielago is kind of ugly too. it's big and bulky with alot of sharp features. i much preferred the diablo. and finally i don't ever think ferrari intended the 550 to compete against the diablo/murcielago so why do you continue to compare the two? the 550 is pure gt and the diablo/murcielago pure flash. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 134 Registered: 11-2002 |
Borranis are pretty shiny when clean... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1299 Registered: 2-2001 |
LOL... chrome wheels to look better? Chome wheels on sports cars go together like huge letters splattered all over the sides... oh wait a second! LOL... Allan, you will find that the general consensus here is that the 550/575 is a MUCH better looking car than the Diablo... Ernesto | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 337 Registered: 6-2002 |
The Ferrari 550/575M looks much better than a Diablo? LOL I guess id have to expect an answer like that from a guy who drove a Supra. I mean a 550 can be mistaken for a Supra, they do look very similar, following in the dull, boring, uninspired look. Hell, even chrome wheels and stripes couldnt help either of those 2 look any better. | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 235 Registered: 9-2001 |
Well said, Ernesto. I agree! The 575/550 is a very classy beautiful car. The Daytona was not wild looking either and neither was the 330 GTC or even the 275. These are great GT cars with Classic looks and great performance. There will always be something faster and something more wild, but Ferrari has survived because they stick to their roots. I would love to see a V10 Ferrari in the fold. The Lamborghinis are just to flashy for me. But I do like the performance numbers. | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 2571 Registered: 6-2001 |
I think audi acquiring lambo is the best thing that could have happened to them. Lambos are still built in italy, only they have comptetent german engineers designing them. I just wish they got an italian to style them.... | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1298 Registered: 2-2001 |
The difference is that not everyone wants to drive wild looking cars with swing up doors and chrome wheels. The 550/575 is an awesome supercar and looks much better than a Diablo or Murcielago. Does it attract more attention? No. Is the styling wild with scoops wings all over the place? No. It is what it is, what Ferrari has always been: A classic and classy shape wrapped around a superb drivetrain. Is is the fastest? No. Who cares? This is what Ferrari has ALWAYS been. Never the fastest car, but always winning (well, at least competing in) races. Which one is the most popular around the globe? Which one is the national treasure of Italy? Hmm.... BTW, I agree on the engine/power issues. I fully expect the next 360 to have a V10 with at least 500hp. Anything less would be embarassing. Ernesto PS. It will be interesting to see how the Audi supercar (based on the Gallardo, or vice versa) will look. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 336 Registered: 6-2002 |
Some people here think i am against Ferrari. I am not. I love them, but i love the cars they produced when they believed in building supercars, not daily driveable, uninspired, made for everyone cars. In my opinion the last great Ferraris were the the Testarossa's, F40's and 355's. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Member Username: Ross Post Number: 753 Registered: 3-2002 |
allan, its like reading my own thread from 8 months ago ! i am a die-hard ferrari fan, but i echo your contention that if they don't start making some really kick-ass mid engined 10 or 12 cylinder cars, they will lose significant market share (and fans) to lambo. in the meantime i am hanging on to my 512tr and loving it. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 335 Registered: 6-2002 |
How does Lambo own Ferrari? We lets see: Ferrari Enzo=Awesome car at an Incredible price, unaffordable to almost everyone though. Ferrari 360-decent car, relatively bland, mediocre performance, same price range as Gallardo, whose performance and styling are superior. Ferrari 550-575, Priced with Murcielago, dull, uninspired looks, performance that is bettered by Diablos several years older. Ferrari needs to go back to designing cars like the 512TR, which had looks to go along with its performance. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 126 Registered: 11-2002 |
All Fiat and Audi comments aside. The Murcielago is a kick ass car. It's fast and feels good to drive. In my opinion, there are plenty of cars I like better as far as looks. Personally, I don't purchase cars so much on the way they look, but on the way they make me feel. I have no experience with a Gallardo so I'll pass judgement on it after a drive and a real life eyeballing. As far as initial impressions, it grows on me and I do like it. Let's give the Gallardo some time and then revisit this thread. As far as Allan's Lambo...I've only heard of it. But from what I've heard it sounds like an amazing machine. No amount of comments can belittle what it is. One mean machine. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3251 Registered: 2-2001 |
Saying Lambo owns Ferrari is one of the most ridiculous things I've heard in awhile, even more ridiculous than the "all 8s are Dinos" argument. LOL. I am thoroughly convinced that the engineers down at Lamborghini smoke crack every morning, no sane person would design the mechanicals of a car as they do. The only hope they have is that by becoming a fancy Audi someone with brains actually begins to design them. So, if you would care to elaborate on how they own Ferrari I would be much inclined to read about it. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Junior Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 116 Registered: 2-2003 |
I thought Fiat owned the street Ferraris? Now Lambo does? Hmmm.. I'm going to save up for a Gallardo CTS, screw the 355 Spider. I've already given up on the NSX for the 355, why not go up one better again. Allan, have you pulled a McLaren in your Lambo, yet? I can't wait to read the article. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wow, am I the only one here that finds both the 360 and Gallardo to be visually stunning? Variety is the spice of life.. you know 8^) --- John | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 334 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ernesto, i understand your pain, after all you did own one of the blandest cars ever produced, the Supra, and now you went onto,(supposedly) the second blandest car ever produced. Hey, its ok, Ferrari has one bad ass car, the Enzo, and other than that, Lambo owns Ferrari. | ||
| Eric Vartanian (Evartanian)
Junior Member Username: Evartanian Post Number: 148 Registered: 3-2002 |
Man, its too bad the Gallardo is just another Cadillac, no? I hope they build an Escalade soon, or a suped up CTS to challenge it. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3249 Registered: 2-2001 |
I wonder how long before Lambo starts offering neon underbody lights as an option. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2002 |
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| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 34 Registered: 12-2002 |
Be Nice 8^) . The Gallardo will be a success and that will cause the 420 to be a better car. Not a bad deal. --- John  | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1294 Registered: 2-2001 |
And we all know who the biggest, straight line racing, magazine quoting, "my friend ran this, so I must also do this," poser is right? BTW, Allan, all 360's have six speed transmissions. Ernesto Is that a Caddy CTS on the left? LOL... | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 33 Registered: 12-2002 |
Regardless of what anybody here drives, neither car's a bad sight to see in front of you on any road. --- John  | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 333 Registered: 6-2002 |
Btw, i drove a 360 6 speed for a week in florida. A good running 3.2 Nsx with maybe a few slight mods, would not have much trouble with one. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 332 Registered: 6-2002 |
Tim, i agree with you, my Nsx will see tailights to the 360, thats why its gone and replaced by a Twin turbo Lotus V8, which has already smoked several 360's. As for the 348, well, why do you wanna pick on the grocery getter? James, no i still dont believe Ernesto has a 360, but i really dont care, posers are everywhere. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1292 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yeah, Allan. Coming from somebody who only races their car in a straight line on the streets... Great racing... Get a life... Ernesto PS. James, Allan does leave his chair for $5k. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 727 Registered: 10-2002 |
Alan I'm confused weren't you willing to bet $5,000 that Ernesto didn't have a 360? Do you now think he does? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 2565 Registered: 6-2001 |
Take a good look at the taillights on ernesto's 360 beacuse thats all you'll be seeing from your 348 and NSX. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 331 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ernesto, take a good look at the taillights, because thats all youll be seeing from your 360! | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3235 Registered: 2-2001 |
They should give you a complimentary gold chain when you buy one. | ||
| Steve (V10_nut)
Junior Member Username: V10_nut Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2002 |
The clear engine cover will be an option. As will heated, power seats, navigation, on-board computer, painted calipers, heated mirrors, anti-theft system, e-gear and something called the "coming home function" | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1288 Registered: 2-2001 |
it looks like a nice audi... exactly what its based on... Ernesto | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 28 Registered: 12-2002 |
Just got this pic from concorso.com My Lord, this shape is really growing on me... I always thought Lamborghinis pre-Murcielago were very gaudy looking with wierd lines and creases here and there. This Gallardo has as many creases and lines as earlier models, but is just so smooth and perfectly done in comparison. --- John P.S. The glass engine cover shown in previous pics was only for the show model. I believe production models will come with a solid louvered cover as in this pic  | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 26 Registered: 12-2002 |
Wanted to mention this since I found a good pic... from the rear, the muscular stance reminds me more of a Testarossa than anything else... although the Gallardo is smoother looking back there. Previous spy pics had the Gallardo looking very very smooth, much like the Murci. Glad they decided not to take this approach cause now, the more I look at it from different angles, the more unique it seems to look IMO... both obviously Lambos, but the final production Gallardo looks a lot more unique than the spy photos had me thinking it would be. --- John   Old Spy Pics   | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 39 Registered: 12-2001 |
Another Geneva shot from a different website  | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 38 Registered: 12-2001 |
For comparison, here is one of the earlier spy pics (photoshop most likely). This one has a much cleaner rear that I think would have been better.  | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 25 Registered: 12-2002 |
Last pics -from Geneva motor show website-... These have much better lighting and angles. It's easier to appreciate the lines. The more I look at it, the more I'm beginning to prefer it over the Murci. Murci has a generic smoothness about it, the Gallardo is more "cut". I really like how they extend that visual cue all the way to the rear bumper and wrap it around the rear wheel well. Really aggressive/muscular looking. --- John     | ||
| Peter Topman (Peter_topman)
New member Username: Peter_topman Post Number: 32 Registered: 8-2002 |
Personally, I think the new Gallardo looks great. (I also like the Murcie) Personally, I think the Gallardo looks better than a F355 or 360. Just my opinion. | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 373 Registered: 4-2002 |
In general, I like the crisper edges of a (say) F355 over a more rounded look like (say) an F360. However, in this case, the Murcielago simply looks better than the Gallardo. Looks like Lambo blew it again. | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 208 Registered: 9-2001 |
It is very modern looking! I like some of the styling, but over all it still falls short. Performance is great, and Audi has really made them a better company, but I would take a 360 over this car. The Gallardo is just a shock value car, the same as every other Lamborghini, they are the definition of wild. I prefer the sexy attention to detailed styling of Pininfarina and Ferrari, although the Enzo is pretty shocking. I don't like the fact that it looks so similar to the Murcielago, reminds me of the whole Porsche line. Your regular Joe on the street will not know the difference between a GT2 and a Boxter or the difference between a Murcielago and a Gallardo. Then again, as I have said before, I am a Ferrari bigot! | ||
| Tom RM (Tgitom)
Junior Member Username: Tgitom Post Number: 64 Registered: 8-2002 |
celica, nah i really dont see much of that in the car. from the side it looks much more graceful with that swooping roof line. I think it looks good and has some character to the body lines..... | ||
| Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Junior Member Username: Karmavore Post Number: 64 Registered: 12-2002 |
John, I completely follow you. Thanks for taking the time to write that up. Cool car. Meaner than a 360, but not as sexy. Tough choice. Now let's see the targa! Luke. | ||
| allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo Post Number: 329 Registered: 6-2002 |
The car looks awesome, and will look much better in person. It will no doubt be an incredible performing automobile. Id take one over a 360 anytime. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 24 Registered: 12-2002 |
Come on guys, let's be reasonable. This Gallardo is pretty sweet, but yes very modern looking like the Murci. I like the concept they are pushing, very hard lines with nice sharp delineated curves. If I squint hard enough, my Modena Spyder can start looking like a bigger MR2 from some angles. You can always find a certain element about a car that looks like another car... at this point, most everything is a derivative of something that preceded it. Regarding the Celica similarity from the rear 3/4 view. The Gallardo has a very sharp delineated crease like the Celica... I think that's what causes the similarity comment, cause not many cars do that, but to say they look like each other cause of that is a stretch. The Celica looks kind of confused back there... right underneath that crease line is a curved "swoosh" that seems to start from the front of the car (not well delineated)... flows to the rear tail light and seems to extend across the top of the rear bumper. That does not work well in my eyes. Now take the Gallardo, about midway on the side of the car you see the start of a nice flowing visual cue.. the top border of it being the hard crease that runs below the windshield and the bottom border being the top of the air intake cutout for the rear wheels. You see how they let that flow and wrap all the way around the rear wheel well and down the rear bumper like it's following a channel which then completely curves around the wheel well... and then at the bottom of the wheel this visual cue is continued to the front of the car with the hard creases made by the bottom of the rear wheel air intake cutout. Taking a look at the side view, taken as a whole, it looks like pincers above and below the rear wheel air intake that flow together at the rear of the car. This visual cue was not an accident... very racy, very aggressive. The rear picture lets you really appreciate how they let this element flow seemlessly through the bumper using hard creases to delineate this channel. It's the type of thing I think is hard for one to appreciate in static pictures, but if you were there looking at the car and walking around it, it would just seem so smooth while still being very hard and agressive. ---- John     | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 466 Registered: 11-2001 |
I used to not like the looks of the 360 but after looking at the MR2Celica thing the 360 starts to look real nice and I could care less of the performance factor as it won't be a huge difference, the 360 does just fine. By the way they were meant to be street driven cars not race cars and since the performances of both cars are good anyway I'd rather have one that looks better. What ever happened to Italian styling. Cars are getting more and more rediculous with the HP thing and you could be driving an old 348- 355, etc and still be faster than 90% of the cars on the road anyway. I started to realize that having the fastest car is really useless as where are you going to go 200mph+ are you really going to drive 0-120mph in a launching manner after the green light? I'm starting to realize that the exotics that are being put out by Italy aren't looking as good as they used to be put aside performance which already was there years back for road use. Aftermarket performance accessories is the best choice if you are building it for race purpose. | ||
| J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2001 |
I see too much of the Cadillac CTS design in Gallardo. The design may become "old" fast. But I would have no problem parking a Murcielago in my garage | ||
| Ryan550 (Ryanab)
Member Username: Ryanab Post Number: 282 Registered: 3-2002 |
Yuck, what happened to originality?? Where is Marcello Gandini (or any Italian designer) when you need 'em????? GAWD, those headlights are disgusting. Ryan | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2002 |
Decisions... Decisions... 8^)   | ||
| Tom RM (Tgitom)
Junior Member Username: Tgitom Post Number: 60 Registered: 8-2002 |
I think it looks good and most likely looks better in person. still love the murci though even though its more money even though there fairly similiar except for price. | ||
| Eric Eiland (Eric308gtsiqv)
Member Username: Eric308gtsiqv Post Number: 629 Registered: 11-2001 |
Appears to be part mustang, part celica, part murci, part 360, all thrown into one -- did I miss any? And what's with the huge tacked on side view mirrors (?) -- they appear to be out of place or positioned / sized incorrectly. From the pics, it just doesn't seem to be a clean design...maybe seeing it in the flesh would change things. Also, it appears to be to tall for its width and length -- or maybe it's just how it appears in the pictures. For some reason, the overall design of the car just doesn't appeal to me...too many "trendy" design elements that don't seem mix well together as a whole IMHO. Definitely strikes me as a bold statement for a new exotic, but I guess that's what has always been Lamborghini's forte and philosophy. | ||
| Gene Agatep (Gagatep)
Member Username: Gagatep Post Number: 276 Registered: 8-2002 |
I think I like the lines of the Gallardo better I know I like the price better. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2002 |
These Comparison pics are better, using actual photos. Think the Gallardo is mainly derivative of the Murci... which is a good thing, a very good thing. Also, I get the feeling than any similarities the Murci/Gallardo may have with regular cars like a toyota et al. are in pictures only. Don't kid yourselves, these cars are huge and have an immense presence that when you see them in flesh, you won't be thinking it looks like an xyz from the back. Like the 2003 Viper, you can see similarities to a lot of things in pics, but when you see it in the flesh, it has a presence that makes you forget similarities that you saw in pictures. --- John     | ||
| Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
New member Username: Jameel Post Number: 50 Registered: 9-2002 |
It looks like the Murcielago, Ferrari Enzo, Porsche Carrera GT and Celica GTS had an orgy and created this thing. I'm not saying I wouldn't take it, but couldn't the designers come up with something a little more original. I'm surprised Audi allowed this! | ||
| Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
New member Username: Jameel Post Number: 49 Registered: 9-2002 |
Michael, you hit the nail on the head. I was trying to figure out why that rear end looks so familiar. Yah it looks too much like the Murc and the rear-end is ugly. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 21 Registered: 12-2002 |
Just for comparison sake, top is Murci, bottom is Gallardo --- John   | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 37 Registered: 12-2001 |
Sorry guys, I really didn't even think of it when I posted it. If possible please move it to the correct forum. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 748 Registered: 10-2001 |
I like it; but it's not for me. I'm Mr. Retro. I'd take it over a 360 but I like the Enzo better. I'd take a 288 GTO over both though. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2002 |
The back end looks like an MR2 back end-the only part I do not like. | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 20 Registered: 12-2002 |
What Ferrari afficianado isn't interested in what Lambo is up to... and vice-versa. You gotta love your enemy in a way 8^) --- John | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2597 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jason, that was pretty ballsy putting this in General Ferrari Discussion... ...pretty awesome, too... | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 19 Registered: 12-2002 |
More on-topic I'd say than Ms. Ferrarichat 8^) --- John | ||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2643 Registered: 8-2002 |
Sorry Guys..... OFF TOPIC or Other Italian     | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 17 Registered: 12-2002 |
The Gallardo is Modern, great looking and Bad-Ass. The 360 is beautiful and "elegant" in comparison. Both awesome, just not the same side of the coin. --- John     | ||
| John Lee (Gjockey)
New member Username: Gjockey Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2002 |
I don't think privately they want to differentiate the Gallardo from the Murci. We're not talking large sales volumes so it's not cannibilization that will occur, more like brand penetration. I have a deposit on one and at a price of 170K ish, last I heard they were expecting 5 Gallardos to be made for every one Murci. I think they are looking to increase market share with the thought... Look how bad-ass the Murci is at 270K, The Gallardo is just as bad-ass for 100K less. Think Lambo made the right move. People who still want to pay 270K for the image thing will go Murci... but the 170K should bring in new blood who wants 99% of that Murci performance and the Lambo image. The Murci is the car giving off the halo effect, The Gallardo will be the car bringing in the sales. BTW, the doors don't swing up on the Gallardo. --- John | ||
| loretta (Ranosportscarco)
New member Username: Ranosportscarco Post Number: 1 Registered: 3-2003 |
We agree, the 360 Modena wins, hands down. | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Junior Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 100 Registered: 8-2001 |
That thing is butt ugly. | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 164 Registered: 4-2001 |
Style alone, the winner is the 360 Modena! | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 156 Registered: 7-2002 |
I'm with Michael on this one, saw the pics in Autocar this morning and immediately saw Celica with a hint of Enzo Not to say I don't like it, the numbers look good! | ||
| Jason Wesoky (Wesokyjb)
New member Username: Wesokyjb Post Number: 35 Registered: 1-2003 |
I think the back looks a lot like the new "Z". I think the Murci and this one look too similar. I thought Lambo wanted more of a 360ish car with the Murci being it's 575. To me, if I could be so privileged as to have the dilemma, it'd be difficult to go for the Murci with this available (yes, yes, there's 2 more cylanders and 80 more hp, but it only matters, according to reports, after 150 mph, and once you're there, who cares?) | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 367 Registered: 4-2002 |
UGLY! | ||
| Michael Yip (Mightyslash)
Junior Member Username: Mightyslash Post Number: 142 Registered: 4-2002 |
Looks like a Celica from the back | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 36 Registered: 12-2001 |
Major differences between the Murcie and Gallardo that i've read are 1000 pounds less weight with the Gallardo and 500Hp vs 580Hp (V10 vs V12). Gallardo has the sequential manual transmission option. The Gallardo has a better power-to-weight ratio so technically it should accelerate faster and produce faster lap times than the Murcie. Lambo however may "dumb it down" so it won't trounce the Murcie. It'll be interesting to see a full test drive report. | ||
| TAKO (Tako)
Junior Member Username: Tako Post Number: 175 Registered: 4-2002 |
Drool! | ||
| David Prall (Davidpra)
Junior Member Username: Davidpra Post Number: 143 Registered: 2-2001 |
Anybody know what differentiates this thing from the Murcielago? | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 35 Registered: 12-2001 |
Some nice high resolution pictures here. I'm not crazy about the rear end though. http://www.vwvortex.com/resources/gallery/lamborghini/gallardo/index.html# |