| Author | Message | |||
| NGSVDO (Azspider)
Junior Member Username: Azspider Post Number: 103 Registered: 6-2001 |
It's not quite the same, I don't change my opinion about Ferraris when the bars close ;-) | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2708 Registered: 8-2002 |
"The 5 ugliest girls you had great sex with". Oh, boy, could i add some stories to a thread like that...  | |||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 706 Registered: 5-2001 |
Why don't we just rename this thread, "The 5 ugliest girls you had great sex with". Kinda the same type question. | |||
| NGSVDO (Azspider)
Junior Member Username: Azspider Post Number: 102 Registered: 6-2001 |
A 250 PF II Cabriolet, least desirable? Just look at the picture posted of that one. You have got to be joking. It was a stunning car then and is on my list of favorites today. I would trade my 355 in a heartbeat for one. | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1176 Registered: 8-2002 |
The five Ferrari (regular production) models that I would least like to own are (#1 being the least desireable): 1. 400/400i/412 Automatics 2. Modial 8 3. 208 GTB/GTS (all models) 4. 308 GTBi/GTSi 5. Mondial QV Coupe/Cabriolet | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 493 Registered: 3-2002 |
Joe Under, I am curious on why you consider the 550 to be a ugly or "non-desirable" Ferrari.. Andrew | |||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1151 Registered: 8-2002 |
In addition, there never really was a Ferrari-Bertone relationship. Bertone had bodied a few one-off show cars in the past but the GT4 was pretty much the full extent of any real relationship. | |||
| Robert W. Garven Jr. (Robertgarven)
Junior Member Username: Robertgarven Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2002 |
It is not true that Enzo did not like the gt4. There is a long article in Forza talking about the design. Enzo Ferrari even had a mock-up built so he could move the seats around to determine the best pedal placement etc. He was also highly involved in its development. I am a proud owner of a gt4 (see my profile) and I would not trade it for the world! I agree it is considered not desireable by the masses but ask anyone who has owned or driven one, I feel it is one of the best all around Ferrari's of all time. | |||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 189 Registered: 10-2002 |
250 GTE(I don't know why they have always been cheap.) 308GT/4(Enzo didn't like it. Its the car that ended the Bertone/Ferrari relationship.) 400iA 308 GTS/Bi-2 (Wickedly underpowered) | |||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 222 Registered: 5-2002 |
wow, i posted the start of this thread 2 days ago, and did not expect that kind of response...I never said anything about ugliest, just least desirable. I am sure if you check the going prices for Ferraris in the FML or any other publication, the 308 GT 4, the 330GT 2+2, the 400, would certainly qualify...if people wanted them more than others, they would not be cheaper. All Ferraris are desirable to someone, somewhere for sure. I just meant which five Ferraris would you not own, if given that choice...what an incredible response... | |||
| joe under (Undertaker)
New member Username: Undertaker Post Number: 4 Registered: 1-2003 |
1. 308gt4 2. 400i 3. 550 4. 365 5. 456 just my opinion | |||
| Dave Goldman (Dave328)
Junior Member Username: Dave328 Post Number: 98 Registered: 11-2002 |
The 5 least desirable Ferrari's are: 1.F40 2.F50 3.288GTO 4.250GTO 5.Enzo Now the best thing to do if you own one of these "shitboxes" is put it up for sale right now and get away from it as soon as you can. SInce these cars are so undesirable you better grab the first $10,000 offer you get. Better yet I will gladly take any of these undesirables off your hands strictly out of the goodness of my heart.I'm just here to help! ;-)(Heh heh heh) Dave BTW I truly believe that there is no "undesirable" Ferrari! | |||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Junior Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 151 Registered: 10-2002 |
"Abrubt but true IMO" Wow! That was refreshing! | |||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1068 Registered: 11-2002 |
>>The 84-95 TR should not be on any list on this thread. << I don't know...those one eared TR's are pretty Fugly imo. | |||
| TWA (Exoticars)
Junior Member Username: Exoticars Post Number: 90 Registered: 8-2001 |
all the 308/328s (god awful junk) mondial (just plain dumb and ugly) sorry guys. Abupt but true IMO | |||
| Charles Barton (Airbarton)
Member Username: Airbarton Post Number: 338 Registered: 11-2002 |
Brian J. I am not trying to be difficult but the 348 is the predecessor of the 355. I can't imagine anyone not seeing the resemblance. Anyway IMHO both are the two prettiest F-cars other than the F-40. | |||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 437 Registered: 2-2002 |
I think DES commands a skywriting squadron. | |||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 835 Registered: 12-2001 |
I'm sorry - let me re-phrase that "BEAUTY-CHALLENGED" | |||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 753 Registered: 10-2001 |
Oh, right! "Chevy" fins. But I think it's unfair to dredge up 50 year old cars as 'ugly' even though most of us have. At the time they were neat-o cool! To someone....probably the designer's mother. | |||
| Jason Williams (Pristines4)
Junior Member Username: Pristines4 Post Number: 164 Registered: 12-2002 |
I agree with you Martin, about the F50. Damn thing just doesn't flow right. I like the F40 and even the Enzo more. | |||
| Nika (Racernika)
Member Username: Racernika Post Number: 834 Registered: 12-2001 |
DES - what agreat talent you have...I never seen MY name in happy faces...... The flames were MAGNETIC - for an article I was writing about the comparison of exotics and hot rods. If you were here, why I'd open a can of whoooo...um.....er....thank you in person for your artistic abilities Now as for the Ferrari's I find ugly Zagato made some weird designs - the spider he wsa commissioned to do in 1971 by Chinetti is UGLY - I think it was called the 3Z 3000. The front looked like ....that weird American car...which I can't think of the name right now...not delorean...but around that time In 1966 here were teo road versions of the 365 P that were made by Pininfarina....one of them look like the batmobile yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeech and lastly the 1956 Superfast Coupe - what's with the CHEVY style fins? | |||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 750 Registered: 10-2001 |
I love all Ferraris, some I love less than others: Anything with 4 headlights (too dated even when new) Mondial Coupe (awkward awkward awkward) 348 (sorry to all the owners out there, but it was such a let down for me as a replacement for the timeless 328) hmmm....I'm sure some of those early 60's bombs would qualify but I can't remember the #'s/names. What was that one with the Cadillac style tail fins? | |||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3941 Registered: 5-2001 |
My least desired classic Ferrari is also the 330 2+2, sorry Tony. Looks like a a french made car from the 60s. But I have to agree with Tony better driving the ugly duckling than dreaming of the 250GTO. My least desirable modern car is the F50. I just can not get warm with that look. If you throw in racing era I have to go with the Niki Lauda F-1 cars and subsequent Turbos. Yuck! | |||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 3940 Registered: 5-2001 |
Hm Brian, so the front hood is the same (with AC intake adjustment), the front fenders are the same, the frame is almost identiacal, the seats are the same (except electric), the overall body is pretty much the same with the exception of the fiberglass part of the air intake in the door and the higher flared rear deck lid. I guess this is why some companies offer an easy 348 to 355 conversion look kit. Just an observation. Now you want to talk engine and soforth, yes, here you have differences. | |||
| Brian Jackett (Brian_jackett)
New member Username: Brian_jackett Post Number: 21 Registered: 12-2002 |
The 355 suffer from what I call the "lets-update-a-square-design-with-round-features-to-make-it-look-new" philosophy. Just doesn't work for me. To the guy who rote this - You are an Arse hole and no nothing about Ferraris. The 355 is a totally different car altogether and I a 348 looks nothing like a 355. You TWAT! | |||
| John Ashburne (Jashburne)
New member Username: Jashburne Post Number: 16 Registered: 9-2002 |
Bill Steele took the words right out of my mouth! | |||
| Jonas Petersen (Karsten335)
Junior Member Username: Karsten335 Post Number: 242 Registered: 11-2002 |
hmm, I have two I find ugly. The *Breadvan* and the "Ferrari Rainbow 408?" | |||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Junior Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 147 Registered: 10-2002 |
Not *too* much agreement here, eh? I'll throw in a little disagreement, too--I'm totally in to the 400/412. TIGHT car! It reminds me of the BMW 630/633/635/M6 series, themselves very great cars. The 400/412s are... eccentric, yes, but they're one of a kind and show you how Ferrari would do it (even though they didn't keep doing it). Besides, they do have 12 cylinders in the front! Ohh... And with a healthy dose of respect--I can't seem to get into the Mondials. Lots of good friends on the board who run them, I'm just not in to them, at all--doesn't sit right. The 84-95 TR, 512TR, and 512M should not be on any list on this thread. | |||
| Bill Steele (Glassman)
Junior Member Username: Glassman Post Number: 171 Registered: 4-2002 |
The least desirable Ferrari is kinda like choosing the least desirable super model, or playboy playmate, or sexual position! | |||
| fritz jerey (Jerry328)
New member Username: Jerry328 Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2003 |
- mondial - 365 gt/4 2+2 - 308 gt/4 - 250 gte 2+2 - 208 gts/gtb ...155 HP  | |||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2626 Registered: 8-2002 |
One of the worst is some yellow 3X8 with some damn flame decals on the side- to each HER own, i guess, but damn, what the hell goes through someone's head to make them do that...? Oh my gosh, how terribly awful... Geez, damn, yuck, aw, ew, blah, blah, blah... ..................... .................. ................ .................... ....................... | |||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 467 Registered: 12-2002 |
The gt4 is a bertone car. Bertone's desgins arent my favorite over Pininfarina, but they are nice in their own right. At first I didnt like the gt4 also, but after seeing some nice examples un close and personal, they are pretty neat I do like the 330 GT 2+2 though, love the 250 PF cabriolet, and for some reason --even though it may not look the greatest-- I love the 400/412s. Its just a strange love for teh car, much like my strange love for the Porsche 914 and Lamborghini Muira. Id take a classic 12 over a new ferrari any day... | |||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 490 Registered: 3-2002 |
ok not to insult owners...but as far as looks go..the 308GT4 is at the top of my ugly list..im sure it sounds great and is incredable to drive...but thats my opinion | |||
| Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
New member Username: Fuiszt Post Number: 36 Registered: 10-2002 |
 Now I feel like that monkey in 2001 | |||
| Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
New member Username: Fuiszt Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2002 |
I guess it will remain a mystery | |||
| Tony Fuisz (Fuiszt)
New member Username: Fuiszt Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2002 |
unfortunately "least desirable" often means most affordable. I'd rather be holding onto the steering wheel of a less desirable ferrari than reading about a most desirable one. here's my ugly duckling...
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| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Intermediate Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 1018 Registered: 5-2002 |
by looks in no particular order 340 mexico 410 superfast 250 gt ellena 365 califfornia 308 gt4/330 2+2 toss up. Would obviously prefer to own the 330 if I had to pick one. | |||
| Terry (Dogue)
Junior Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 210 Registered: 9-2001 |
Least desirable, by definition would be those that are very cheap in comparison. 1) 308 GT4 (absolutely love this car-in my opinion undervalued) 2) Mondial 8 (could take it or leave it-underpowered heavy and not very sexy) 3) 400i/a (365 GT/4 2+2){not my cup of tea-but a great car for the price-front engined V-12 room for 4 and all at the price of a 308) 4) 330 GT 2+2 (4 headlight)(My DREAM car would take it over any similarly valued car) 5) 308 GTS/Bi-2 valve injected (Undervalued, because of the low horsepower/I absolutely love this car and would take it over any other similarly priced car except a 330GT 2+2) Now the Ferraris that would be lower on the list for me would be. Strictly because of looks. 1) the Rossa (2001 Concept car) 2) The Mythos (1989 Concept car) 3) 375 America s/n 355AL (built for Agnelli) 4) 410 Superamerica (4 headlight with big square grill also built for G.Agnelli) 5) Drogo 365 GT 2+2 And the list would go on and on with the one-off show cars. I know that most listed are very rare and worth 10x what some of my favorite cars are worth, but I just don't get into the "exercise in design" cars. | |||
| JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall Post Number: 1059 Registered: 11-2002 |
If you mean 'least desirable' as in Butt Ugly terms...then 1)Many of the Drogo Monstrosities 2)330 4 headlight 3)250 GTE 4)330 GT 2+2's 5) 400i Automatic (not really ugly, just useless. | |||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 670 Registered: 10-2001 |
Keep in mind those are the 5 least desirable ferraris , this doesnt mean that they are cars i hate or loath etc... | |||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 545 Registered: 10-2002 |
Though question, but here it goes: 375 America (especially the one for King Leopold) Scaglietti berlinetta from 1960 400 Superamerica Bertone's 250 GT from 62 308 QV (just kidding) But definitely NOT the 308 GT4. I love that car! I would have bought one if it had fit my garage. | |||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
Junior Member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 91 Registered: 3-2002 |
Andrew, The picture of the 250 Cab is beautiful. That is one of the nicest shots of that car I have seen. It's beauty is in its simplicity. No added on gimmicks or goofy wheels for the gold chain crowd. Just a nice classic design. | |||
| Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Junior Member Username: Karmavore Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2002 |
As far as looks go: The 355 & 512M suffer from what I call the "lets-update-a-square-design-with-round-features-to-make-it-look-new" philosophy. Just doesn't work for me. Also, I love me some 308 GT/4, but the US version with those bumpers is atrocious. For some reason is the 308 isn't bad. Oh, and why does the 456 always look like it is about to tip over..?? Luke. | |||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1127 Registered: 10-2001 |
I would say that all Ferraris are desirable, just that some will not command the big money like others. The 250 GTE is a prime example, beautiful car, V12, great looks but because it isn't a GTO people will not pay for it. | |||
| Erich Walz (Deleteall)
Junior Member Username: Deleteall Post Number: 180 Registered: 12-2001 |
Say what you want about the V-12s, at least you don't have guys building them out of Fieros! | |||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 594 Registered: 1-2002 |
paul- "..rock on wayne.." | |||
| Paul Hill (348paul)
Junior Member Username: 348paul Post Number: 97 Registered: 12-2002 |
Ron, Thought you were pulling our legs!! - 360 spyder in on your wanted list!! I sat in a  288GTO 2 weeks ago at a local Ferrari Shop - The old knees were trembling!! "She will be mine" | |||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 493 Registered: 5-2002 |
EFWUN, The P3 is one of the most beautiful Ferraris EVER built to date. Matt 288 GTO WOW ! what can I say. | |||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 52 Registered: 2-2003 |
Sorry about the "appliance" comment. | |||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 492 Registered: 5-2002 |
GUYS! I thought you would know me by now... I love all of the Ferraris on my list. 330 2+2 and the 330 america are really the only ones I can think of that does nothing for me. | |||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 658 Registered: 5-2001 |
I'll take all those. | |||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 664 Registered: 10-2001 |
I dont like the 250 GTE/330 GT looks and i find the Serie 2 cab too big to be really attractive. And its not because they have a V12 and are cheap that i will find them desirable..id rather have a 308 or a 308 GT/4.Or to stick with the V12 , a 365 GTC/4. | |||
| Helmut Schnug (Ferrari_e_basta)
New member Username: Ferrari_e_basta Post Number: 23 Registered: 2-2003 |
I don't want to annoy owners of the following Ferraris but here is my list of types which I do not like: 512 M (the 512 TR looks much better) Testarossa (awful design) 550 Barchetta (horrible at all.......) 456 GT&M (a compromise solution, too expensive) Mondial Coupes (the T-Spider looks much better) | |||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 51 Registered: 2-2003 |
I'm assuming Ron is kidding about the P3, right? Collecting any nice appliances on your porch, Ron? | |||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1870 Registered: 9-2001 |
Least desirable to who ? | |||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 3846 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think all the classic 12's you mentioned are very desirable. Maybe not the best looking, but where else can you get a classic Ferrari with the same engines as the 7 digit priced cars for $30-50k? | |||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 662 Registered: 10-2001 |
250 GTE  250 GT PF Cab S2  400iA  330 America  330 GT 2+2  | |||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 655 Registered: 5-2001 |
I can't think of one let alone five. | |||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 1019 Registered: 6-2001 |
250 GTE, 308GT/4, 400iA, 166, 330 America. | |||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 661 Registered: 10-2001 |
We re talking only production cars right ? no one off or show cars ? Here goes : 330 America 250 GTE 400iA 330 GT 2+2 250 GT Pf cab S2 | |||
| Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 2683 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ron....sniff, sniff....the 288? | |||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 453 Registered: 12-2002 |
I happen to like all the ferraris you guys mentioned, well, maybe not the enzo's looks as much. From an asthetical point, everyone is gonig to have different opinions, some people appreciate different styles and eras more than others. | |||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 491 Registered: 5-2002 |
The ENZO P3 360 spyder 288 GTO and last but not least Testarossa 84-95 | |||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Intermediate Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 1016 Registered: 5-2002 |
Too late it's started | |||
| Bruno (Originalsinner)
Intermediate Member Username: Originalsinner Post Number: 1015 Registered: 5-2002 |
It needs more parameters. looks,performance,cost,bang for buck,overall average of these factors,etc. Ther was some that were pure ugly to me. Some fromt he 60s were yuk and I think the gt4 is ugly and the Enzo needs work it's overdone. From a look stand point I can come up with 5 easy. | |||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
New member Username: Efwun Post Number: 49 Registered: 2-2003 |
If you hate to start it, why start it? | |||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 220 Registered: 5-2002 |
I hate to start this type of a thread, and some people think all ferraris are beautiful...but what the heck, it is worth a try... not trying to insult any ferrari owners, but i wonder if there would be agrrement on that subject.. |
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