| Author | Message | ||
| David Albright (Dalbright)
Member Username: Dalbright Post Number: 308 Registered: 2-2001 |
William...any good pictures from your trip to Italy, especially from Pagani? I was supposed to go there (Pagani) and meet with Roberta Bicocchi last year but had to cancel. Extremely nice over the phone and via email. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1166 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think it really need an F40 style wing. I was refering to the Pagani strictly from a quality of construction sense. The Pagani is amazingly gorgeous, Its also a good 15 mph faster than the F50, at least. Its been driven to 340kph which is 212.5 Mph, a lot faster than the F50 & they say it still wasnt maxed out  | ||
| Arnaldo Torres (Caribe)
Member Username: Caribe Post Number: 277 Registered: 2-2001 |
IMO, I think it looks more like the street version of the F333SP. Consequently, I think Ferrari went a bit retro with this design, rather than forward as it might seem at first glance. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 125 Registered: 3-2002 |
This might sound like an absurd idea but it would be cool if the FX offered an F50 type spoiler that could be mounted or dis-mounted for the rear of the car..best of both worlds.. | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
New member Username: Ross Post Number: 30 Registered: 3-2002 |
here is another website http://www.pistonheads.net/news/ | ||
| Jason (Jason)
New member Username: Jason Post Number: 24 Registered: 11-2001 |
Oh my! It really does share a close resemblance to the Mach 5. I wonder if the F60/FX will come equipped with Trixie? | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Junior Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 73 Registered: 8-2001 |
Maybe...?  | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 631 Registered: 8-2001 |
So, anyone here ordered one yet? | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2340 Registered: 2-2001 |
I've been checking out as many spy shots as possible lately and this picture doesn't do the thing justice at all. From all the other pictures the thing has F50 proportions, almost right on the nose. If you think about it if you took the spoiler off the F50 it would be comparable to this overall shape, if you look at side shots you can really see it. Also, based on the front compartment area, aerodynamic flows of it, and the way the test driver's have been sitting in it, there is no way IMO this thing could have AWD unless somehow they are magically transferring the power without a driveshaft and differential, because there simply isn't enough room in the other pictures for this type of system. The other spy shots with tape on it suggest it will have these lights, but make it look like an aggressive F50 and not this long nose oddity. I think it's gonna be cool, just wish they would've picked a better picture to debut it with. Also, all the spy shots have an F40/F50 wing (across width of car) but is significantly lower than the two predecessors, and has a little vertical section out the top on the ends. I still have faith in Ferrari guys, at least til the September debut in Paris... | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Junior Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 105 Registered: 2-2001 |
Appearance-wise I prefer it to the F50 but do not like it as well as the F40. The F1 influence in the design is pretty obvious. Prefer it without the wing though may lose more races at the disco w/out one. Not a fan of the fender-mounted mirrors. Technically it sounds like a winner. Hope it's not AWD. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 629 Registered: 8-2001 |
Go to WWW.Autoweek.com for more info about the FX. Seems Schumacher had a hand in it too. No mention of all-wheel drive. The lack of big rear wing was intentional. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 181 Registered: 3-2002 |
Bob you have an e-mail. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 180 Registered: 3-2002 |
OK lets try this again......... Ferrari Trivia.... Where was the photo of "FX" taken? What country? What City or Town? | ||
| Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Junior Member Username: Bob308gts Post Number: 132 Registered: 9-2001 |
It appears to be the factory wind tunnel in the background. | ||
| Mitchell L. Davidson (Jussumfastgi)
New member Username: Jussumfastgi Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2002 |
Hum... well.... It sure is an interesting looking car. | ||
| xxxxx (Totem)
New member Username: Totem Post Number: 2 Registered: 4-2002 |
the pictures have been taken from www.owners.ferrari.com. as far as I know this will be the only official picture from ferrari untill september, when the car will be presented. I would also guess that the drowings refer to an early stage of the car's development and that's why they are different from the final model. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 179 Registered: 3-2002 |
OK Ferrari fans, where was this picture taken? I know, do you? | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 326 Registered: 2-2001 |
here is a bigger one...  | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu Post Number: 158 Registered: 2-2002 |
The Pagani Zonda C12S will NOT blow the doors off an F50... NO WAY. Its a fantastic car but it is no F50. In a recent test it was outperformed by the Ruf Porsche R Turbo and the Lamborghini Murcielago almost kept up with it. Its not THAT good. Back to the F60 though, and although I have calmed from my inital outrage, it looks weird. The nose looks amazing - pure F1 car (where does the numberplate go??) but the rear looks strange all the same. About the McLaren F1. I recently saw one on the road in real life (what are the chances of that?) and frequently drive past their only world showroom on Park Lane, London. Basically, I have seen one in real life on may occasions. To me, the car looks pathetic (for the price at least). It has no road presence, no real aethestic quality, and nothing in the design to make your heart beat faster. It isn't crazy like the F40/F50 and isn't pretty like the 355/550. The 360 looks similar but is far more pleasing to look at. More so from what I've heard the F1 is dreadfully unstable at high speed and the power is way more than the chassis can controllably handle. A TopGear road tester (and former grand Prix driver) reported that the F50 will be faster around most circuits than the McLaren. This FX is likely to crush both. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2323 Registered: 2-2001 |
William did they get rid of the 150mph speed limiter on the Zonda yet though. I know as of a few months ago they were all leaving their shop with them. That would be a shame, but I'm sure it could be disabled. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
New member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2002 |
F-40 and F-50 a lot better! | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1165 Registered: 2-2001 |
The 360 is well not exactly the Belle of the Ball The ZOnda is awesome dude, Full carbon fiber tub & body, MB 7.3 L engine with close to 600hp & they will tailor the interior, color & suspension to your specs & driving style, It just doesnt get much better than that & its half the price of the F50 & would probably blow the doors off the F50. Damn its a gorgeous car. F60 looks pretty cool but its not twice as good as a Zonda, it may not even be AS good as the Zonda | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 325 Registered: 2-2001 |
At least it doesn't have any side grates or fake intakes like some other models in the previous lineups... that would have been a major catastrophe. Ernesto | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
New member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2001 |
i think he does hate it ...! Btw William , are you getting a Zonda C12S ? you seem to really like it ! | ||
| shahin tabassi (Shahin)
New member Username: Shahin Post Number: 11 Registered: 4-2002 |
you think the 360 is ugly william? or are u just kidding | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 1164 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well it goes a long way to recover Pininfarina's name from the 360 atrocity I like the drawing with the tall wing. I'm guessing around $750, course u can get yourself a Very nice Pagani Zonda C12S for half that | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
New member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 46 Registered: 10-2001 |
Have you noticed how the skirt and the front spoiler seem to be in a different shade of Red ? Is ferrari trying to Bluff us? remake of the Porsche 980 ?...i would love that . | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
New member Username: Ross Post Number: 28 Registered: 3-2002 |
those pictures make it look like a cross between a pagoni zonda and the new merc slr. shame that it could not be more in keeping with the rest of the lineup. in any case, it has not changed my mind that the best looking (and possibly performing) special car in recent times is still the f40. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 113 Registered: 3-2002 |
It would be awesome if it had a 7 speed gearbox..also Manu what about the mclaren turns you off? | ||
| Peter S�derlund /328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
Junior Member Username: Corsa Post Number: 159 Registered: 4-2001 |
Andrew It was a rumor on a swedish site which sell exoticn not on owners site. Sorry. It's in swedish though. I was also surprised. Still, it's just a rumor. Ciao Peter | ||
| Manu Sachdeva (Manu)
Junior Member Username: Manu Post Number: 157 Registered: 2-2002 |
WHAT THE F*** IS THAT? Is this serious? The front end looks great but the rear end looks RUBBISH - it looks unfinished -what the hell are they doing?? If it weighs 1200Kg I expect it to have 700bhp - otherwise what is the F**KING POINT? Buy an upgraded F40 and you'll get a better PWR. It also reminds me of the McLaren F1 - a car that I HATE - AND I MEAN HATE... I can't get over the way it looks though.. I'm going to ignore rumours of specification though.... I have heard about a 7 -speed sequential gearbox, transmitting 650bhp to rear wheels, on a 1000kg car - at the moment everyone seems to have a different story.... Might as well ignore them all. I'm prepared to give myself a chance to like this car but my first impression is that it looks RUBBISH. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
New member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 43 Registered: 10-2001 |
Peter where did you get all that info? on www.owners.ferrari.com ? i cant find them on the site ! i dont belive ( dont want to ..) in 4WD , and i dont want this car to be real ! HELP ! | ||
| Mark (Study)
Junior Member Username: Study Post Number: 223 Registered: 10-2001 |
You know that the F40 is the worst looking car in the world in photos... looks like a mis-fit kit car. In Person the F40 is beautiful! I like the photo of this F60. NSX style windsheild looks good, McLaren style mirrors on front fenders are cool. Back end looks like a chopped up TR from the angle of the photo. But F1 nose looks good. Don't the like drawings. Those black vents on the hood suck. Back view of car is funny looking...undecided on that. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2310 Registered: 2-2001 |
Until I see this thing in a major magazine I wont believe they will make this mess. \ In the mess' defense this angle seems to not to do all that much to help it. I still don't belive awd though. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 321 Registered: 2-2001 |
All I know is that it better be F A S T Ernesto | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 751 Registered: 6-2001 |
What is that red car? The new V8 NSX??? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 367 Registered: 3-2001 |
Perry Farina's 1976 F60:  | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 750 Registered: 6-2001 |
I cant believe they are actually making this abomination. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 366 Registered: 3-2001 |
Looks like they stole some styling designs from Perry Farina (Pinin's bastard brother) over at Pontiac. Front end looks like an older Firebird. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 320 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bret, this is the official, final version photo from Ferrari, not a computer rendering... Ernesto | ||
| David Albright (Dalbright)
Member Username: Dalbright Post Number: 307 Registered: 2-2001 |
Bret, these photo's come from the official Owners site...not FOC. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
New member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 42 Registered: 10-2001 |
I think the FX needs to be lowered , other wheels , have a rear wing and circular headlights like the black prototype had .. I hope the FX will be fast at least ! maybe a 7.30 mn car at the ring ? | ||
| David Albright (Dalbright)
Member Username: Dalbright Post Number: 306 Registered: 2-2001 |
Here is a sketch with the wing. Can't wait to hit the lottery and place my order!  | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2305 Registered: 2-2001 |
After my evening ride today (no Fcar so I bike instead) I spent a long time sitting mostly to cool off, but I was thinking about this F60. btw saw a racing green MB with a Kayak on the roof, and saw a beautiful dark green 427 Cobra cruise by. Back to Ferrari though, this thing here is a disgrace to the Ferrari name. Ferrari has yet to let us down and produce anything short of a work of art........ So, I can not believe this is what it will actually look like. In R&T you can see the basic outline of the car and it looks a lot better than this computer animated blasphemy. If you want high downforce you need a wing, this thing will definitely have a decent wing on it since they're not shooting for top speed records. This alone will add to it a lot. I also can't believe that there could be AWD. Ferrari has no experience except the 408 with AWD. I really don't think they are going to base their supercar on a 15 year old 250HP oddity, as opposed to their F1 program. Also how could they know what the headlights look like, every spy shot is with huge round lights taped on as camouflage to cover this area. Does anyone really think FOC, not even FCA, but FOC here would have any information about this car. I mean come on. I still have faith in a big wing (maybe not as classy as F40 and F50), rear well drive, nice but radical proportions, and I'm hoping a 7speed trans. It's gonna look something like this design here, but it's gonna be nice, Ferrari wont do us wrong...If they do anyone wanna buy a very fast 308QV? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 745 Registered: 6-2001 |
That thing is hideous. hopefully its just beacause of the angle the pic was taken from, but i doubt thats why its so ugly. Speaking of the mclaren, if they are going to use the raising wing like the mclaren (it raises under braking) why cant they make the car not ugly. IMO the mclaren is the best looking super exotic ever made. With the f40 and f50 close behind. In the order of good looking cars trhis thing definately brings up the rear of that list. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 318 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think the rear wing is adjustable, in that it raises at a certain speed. Overall, I think the car is very McLaren-ish, similar wheels and doors, adjustable wing, etc. I just want to see how it performs! The specs are not yet up on the site and there is only the one photo and a few sketches... Ernesto | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
New member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 41 Registered: 10-2001 |
im so disapointed . ok i need more pics too and some time but •••• ! im lost ! lamborghini does an ugly car , porsche a SUV and now this Ferrari looking like a 2050 Hotwheel ! the wheels are ugly and i think it needs a wing ..that cockpit is too centered for a car without a rear wing . The headlights are very murcielago ! and those were very Ford Focus so thats not a good point . And where is the 7 speed GB ? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 365 Registered: 3-2001 |
Hope it grows on me. | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 104 Registered: 3-2002 |
John J stepher I agree with you about the front end..looks very radical..but I love the air scoops on the back end..Wow | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
New member Username: Eilig Post Number: 29 Registered: 8-2001 |
By the way, that rental outfit in Germany, Scuderia von Ruschenberg, expects to have one of these available for rental by Fall, 2003. Check it out: www.EuropeanFerrariRental.com Wonder how much it will cost to rent for a day!? | ||
| Bob Campen (Bob308gts)
Junior Member Username: Bob308gts Post Number: 130 Registered: 9-2001 |
It is very different, almost has an Alfa look to it. | ||
| Cmparrf40 (Cmparrf40)
Junior Member Username: Cmparrf40 Post Number: 174 Registered: 3-2002 |
I know the first time I see a car, I do not always like it. It has taken a long time for the 360 to grow on me, now I like it, the FX is so radically different we made need time....... Chris | ||
| John J Stecher (Jjstecher)
Junior Member Username: Jjstecher Post Number: 164 Registered: 1-2002 |
That is one of the most UGLY cars I have ever seen!!!!!!!!!!! It looks like a hotwheels car blown up to full scale. There are no lines to the car just wierd angles and curves. The nose has to be by far one of the worst I have seen on a car.....i am just disappointed. Glad I didnt preorder mine with $250K down. I'll take and F40 or F50 any day over this hideous beast. I dont care how quick it is | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 490 Registered: 6-2001 |
I actually like it from the first image. I hate the name FX. I am still having problems with that Ferrari Owners website. It has not worked for me yet, I just get the teaser emails. Pisses me off. | ||
| David Bob� Jr. (Supraoz)
Junior Member Username: Supraoz Post Number: 82 Registered: 9-2001 |
Looks awesome! | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 623 Registered: 8-2001 |
My initial reaction to the photo was positive. Need more angles and complete specs. | ||
| Martin (Miami348ts)
Intermediate Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 1871 Registered: 5-2001 |
I though the FX would mean F-and an X for no designation yet. Am I wrong here? As far as looks...God what were they thinking! I hope that it looks far better in person than in thse pictures. The Lambo Mucielagiosnurnhbsbhfdlks,j which that **** name was pretty much a positive when I saw that in person. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2301 Registered: 2-2001 |
Alright, I'm not going to lose faith in Ferrari yet. They're only rumors. I'll try to calm down. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2300 Registered: 2-2001 |
It's friggin ugly. Gosh, 4wd on a Ferrari. What is this? Someone please hang Montezemolo. Seriously, this is an outrage IMO. Well at least F50 owners will still have high demand for their cars. Usually I try and find the nice qualities of each car (even the 360 has grown on me I'll admit, now I like it quite a bit, but shh don't tell anyone), but this car has no nice qualities other than it's fast. Seriously, wow it's f#$# ugly. I can get past the ugliness, but 4wd is too much for even me to put up with in a Ferrari. Why don't they just start making SUV/minivans like Porsche already. | ||
| TomD (Tifosi)
Member Username: Tifosi Post Number: 527 Registered: 9-2001 |
look at that F-1 car nose down the center, need to see more angles | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 317 Registered: 2-2001 |
some more....    | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Member Username: T88power Post Number: 316 Registered: 2-2001 |
here it is,...  | ||
| David Albright (Dalbright)
Member Username: Dalbright Post Number: 305 Registered: 2-2001 |
It's on the site.....very little info though! | ||
| Peter S�derlund /328 GTB -88 (Corsa)
Junior Member Username: Corsa Post Number: 157 Registered: 4-2001 |
Rumor from a site. Ferrari F60 Price: $700.000 300 will be made Permanent 4WD 345 km/h Weight 1200-1300 kg. 600-620 hk 6-speed F1-box. Name FX not F60. Ciao Peter | ||
| David Albright (Dalbright)
Member Username: Dalbright Post Number: 304 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well, if the rumors are correct, then we'll be seeing Ferrari's new F60/FX sometime tonight or tomorrow on www.owners.ferrari.com. Did everyone go out and get their BigGame lotto ticket for tomorrow night? It's up to $300+ million!! | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 80 Registered: 3-2002 |
thanks bret | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Intermediate Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 2278 Registered: 2-2001 |
bhp is brake horse power, named so because of the machine (horsepower brake) used to test the engine. I think they are equal in value though. ? | ||
| Andrew (Mrrou)
Junior Member Username: Mrrou Post Number: 72 Registered: 3-2002 |
A yearv ago I hseard the f60 wiuld have 600bhp..my how things have changed..also whats the difference between hp and bhp? thanks will the f60 have the 2 year lease the locked the f50 owners to? | ||
| izel k (Ferrarist)
New member Username: Ferrarist Post Number: 13 Registered: 3-2001 |
I'm not a www.owners.ferrari.com member so please copy the pictures here that all the tifosi can see. Waiting for the 16th of April | ||
| xxxxx (Totem)
New member Username: Totem Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2002 |
People, I've been told from my local dealer - ferrari of ontario - that the FX will be shown on the www.owners.ferrari.com on april 15th. looks like that april 16th is early morning in italy, which is the 15th here. I have registered on the Owners' Site two days ago and today I got my password. I spent two hours in the navigation; that was amazing! Tomorrow I'm planning to purchase one of the limited edition products, probably the radiocontrolled 360 challenge. any suggestions? | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
New member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 40 Registered: 4-2002 |
but bob, i own a f40 and they took my discover card rather own a home for 650k | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 357 Registered: 3-2001 |
Bruce, no AmEx... only Visa/MC. :-) $650K and 650hp.... that's a $buck a horse... what a steal! | ||
| bruce wellington (Bws88tr)
New member Username: Bws88tr Post Number: 38 Registered: 4-2002 |
$700,000 ???? do they take amex?? | ||
| Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
Junior Member Username: Kennyh Post Number: 208 Registered: 8-2001 |
April 16th is my birthday, great present! | ||
| Terry Daniel (Dogue)
New member Username: Dogue Post Number: 27 Registered: 9-2001 |
We had our local Ferrari Club meeting last night. The sales manager at the dealership informed us that he recieved an email from FNA that they would be unveiling the "FX supercar" and it's proper name on their Ferrari owners site on April 16th. Thought you guys might want to know about it. | ||
| Racer 001 (Mr_0011)
New member Username: Mr_0011 Post Number: 27 Registered: 3-2002 |
Ah so no more fast and furious style Boeing 747 wings eh?  lol | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
New member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 37 Registered: 4-2001 |
$650,000 is about right. I know someone in the northeast who has a $250,000 deposit on one. | ||
| martin J weiner,M.D. (Mw360)
Member Username: Mw360 Post Number: 366 Registered: 5-2001 |
$650,000 ? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 352 Registered: 3-2001 |
It's really coming together... saw it in the newest Road & Track. Although still under cover, it's pretty interesting looking. The back wing looks much less radical than the F40/F50... much lower. 650 HP, ceramic brakes. The doors hinge up in the roof area and open outward and upward. I'm a little surprised, looks like it's going to have pop-up headlights? It's expected to make it debut in Sept at the Paris auto show. Any guesses on cost? |