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89TCab (Jmg)
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Username: Jmg

Post Number: 385
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 2:59 am:   

The T has more power, better handling and comfort... (Comfort is subjective but for me, it was quite noticable.)

I drove both quite a bit before picking up my first T and have never looked back.

For your best feedback on both models, suggest you pick up a copy of Ferrari 328, 348, Mondial Ultimate Portfolio from Brooklands. (You can probably find it on ebay...) It is a collection of every article on these models from Autocar, R&T, C&D, Motor, Car, MotorTrend, Automobile and others. Very informative when looking to get various feedback on the models.
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
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Username: Jordan747_400

Post Number: 517
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Thursday, March 13, 2003 - 1:09 am:   

There is a red/tan 3.2 at European Collectibles here in southern california. Its price is 33k.

No affiliation, I was just considering the car myself.

http://www.europeancollectibles.com/auto_detail.asp?auto_id=C573
Henryk (Henryk)
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Username: Henryk

Post Number: 552
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 9:52 pm:   

I had a 3.2 Mondial converible. It was trouble free all the time I had it.....several years.

While almost every Mustang wanted to race me at a light, when I had a 308, no one did that with the Mondial. Actually it was more fun than the 308......MUCH less hassles with other drivers when driving. It just doesn't scream "race me". If so, then why get the Mondial t?

Besides, I have read many problems with the early 348's, as Joe has described.

Overall impression: Save your money and get the 3.2.
Russ Turner (Snj5)
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Username: Snj5

Post Number: 23
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 8:34 pm:   

Way cool.
Sounds great and hope to meet you all soon. Am going to DC for a year, but am hoping for Travis afterwards. Of course, I could end up in Iraq tomorrow - anyone know a good Ferrari mech there?
best to all
russ
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
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Username: Easy_rider

Post Number: 319
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 7:13 pm:   

Russ, make sure you stop in Southern California on your way back through. We plan drives all the time and you would be welcome.
Russ Turner (Snj5)
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Username: Snj5

Post Number: 20
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 7:01 pm:   

Ron
Was at Spang 90-93 (except 186 days in Bahrain :-))
and had daughter at Bitburg; Ramstein 96-99. Lived in Kindsbach off B-40. Brought the Mondial 3.2 over as daily driver and brought it back, Took it to Ferrari Racing days and multiple events at the Nuerburgring, but was the most fun on the twisty secondaries. I really would recommend anyone with a Ferrari to drive it to a major Euro meet once - It would be worth the passage on the QE2.
best to all from snowy Misawa
Russ
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
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Username: Easy_rider

Post Number: 315
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 6:31 pm:   

Russ, when were you in Ramstein. I spent 4 years there from 1971-1974. We lived in Rodenbach (I think it was). Had a great time and my daughter was born there. Wish I had my Mondial (or equivalent) then.

Ron
Russ Turner (Snj5)
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Post Number: 19
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 3:56 pm:   

Faced same decision 6 years ago and bought 3.2 and used for daily driver for 5 years, and plan to keep it when I get back from Japan. Chose 3.2 for long term since it looks better than the t, galactacally lower relative running and maint. costs and better reliability... a bit practical even (as all Mondials). The t is noticibly a little more powerful though, and the t's power steering is cool.. Really depends on how you want to use the car.
I'm 6'3 and a Mondial is still quite roomy. Used to take trips in Germany with wife and 5 yo (best time Ramstein to Bitburg 45 min with traffic), and have verified it will pull all the way to the redline in 5th just fine. A huge value, the best of all worlds for me and I don't plan on selling. But, would trade for a 250GT Lusso though.. :-)
Hope this is a good data point - they are both great cars.
best
russ
Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
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Username: Karmavore

Post Number: 85
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 3:54 pm:   

...except of course ALL of the contrasts mentioned below. :-)

T ...if you can afforded the maintenance
3.2 ...if you can't or would rather not.

Luke.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 1954
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

I have never had a Mondial. I have had both a 328GTS and a 348 Spider which have the same drivetrains as the 3.2 and T Mondials respectively. There is NO contest between the two. Get the Mondial T. It looks better and is faster. I believe it is a little roomier too.
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 2968
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 2:55 pm:   

Mondial t is an engine out service as well
Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
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Username: Easy_rider

Post Number: 313
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 2:34 pm:   

I agree with Joe. Plus the t is harder to work on and, therefore, more expensive to maintain in addition to some parts being more likely to fail.

Plus, I like the side strakes better on the 3.2, although many do not.
joe under (Undertaker)
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Username: Undertaker

Post Number: 5
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 2:28 pm:   

my 2 cents...plus's and minus's

mondial 3.2
- less expensive to maintain
- more reliable, possibly far more reliable
- side grates bigger (personally i think it's a plus)
- although torquey and powerful, does not have the same straight line punch that the t has.
- major service can be done in chassis (less costly)
- dual timing belts (more robust, ferrari went back to dual timing belts on the f355 actually)

mondial t
- flywheels go out
- seems to eat through more clutches, especially the 1989-1992 models 'dual disc' (expensive when it's time to replace)
- single timing belt (also, water pump drives off timing belt)
- starters too close to cat's, get hot, fail
- alternators always go out
- slow down light ecu's more prone to failing than 3.2's
- slave cylinders leak
- power steering (i don't care for cadillac style steering)


my vote is for the mondial 3.2



TomD (Tifosi)
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Username: Tifosi

Post Number: 2964
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 1:50 pm:   

look in this thread and others like it

http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/169379.html
Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
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Username: Enzomoon

Post Number: 61
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 1:49 pm:   

Brad:

I had a Mondial 3.2 coupe. It was a lovely car and the 328 engine was very reliable. Having said that in retrospect I wish I had purchased the t as there is a striking difference in performance. As the Mondial is a fairly heavy car anyhow, the 3.2 was just not that exciting. You should try to drive both and I think you will be able to make up your mind. Hope this helps
Matt Lemus (Mlemus)
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Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 2965
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 1:49 pm:   

The 3.2 has the 328 engine and the T has the 348 engine that is mounted transverse.
Brad-Mo (007)
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Username: 007

Post Number: 7
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Wednesday, March 12, 2003 - 1:46 pm:   

Can anyone here help me understand the differences between the Mondial 3.2 and the t, and why the t carries about a $15k premium over the 3.2 for like condition and mile cars. I understand that the year of production is some of that difference but as a percentage of the purchace prices it seems quite big. I'm getting very close to making a decesion on a car, but I'm having trouble getting all the info to make me feel good about my choice. Any input is greatly appreciated!

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