| Author | Message | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 176 Registered: 2-2003 |
Tino, you have to understand that cars that are out of the historic race mainstream, e.g., for sale by a memorabilia company, are usually "cobbled together crap" and therefore a desperately bad deal. They often have bent tubs, certainly lack functional fuel systems and often have (really) old brake system parts and uprights that can't pass fluoroscopy. They're cast off parts assembled to look like a racer for display purposes. Buying one of these with the idea of racing it in HGP or the like is a bad idea. "Repairing" something like that would entail building your own Jordan basically from the ground up. The best deal I ran across in a couple months of searching for a 3 liter F/1 car was a March 811 in Seattle, for sale by a reputable gentleman ( I believe he owns the ex-Villeneuve car in the photo on this thread) for ~$130,000. Nothing else worth buying came within $40K of that price. | ||
| Tino (Bboxer)
Junior Member Username: Bboxer Post Number: 247 Registered: 8-2001 |
There are a lot of "fake" Benetton F1 cars in circulation. After the 96 and 97 championships, the team was asked to put together as many "rollers" as possible using damaged and/or used parts. The object was to exhibit the cars in a lot of Benetton stores worldwide. Some made it to the US. A good friend of mine bought one (with its elaborate rotating platform and has had it here in the LA area for quite some time. It was cheap at $20K but looks good and that's about it. IMO the best deal for a vintage F1 is the #32 1991 Jordan 191 (7up green) that a memorabilia company has for sale in Toronto. It is a true roller but needs engine/trans. It was a spare car for the 91 Spa race (Shoemaker's debut). Last year they wanted $50K for it. | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 757 Registered: 5-2001 |
After reading this thread I have learned one very important point: I need to stay the hell away from even considering buying a F1 car. | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 261 Registered: 3-2001 |
Efwun, Your comments about a 'running' car are spot on....The one I saw was maintained by a crew at MHT. It was being prepped for a run at Spa (the Irish gentleman had rented the track)...It even had its own support truck, which was identical to the F1 paddock vehicles....although Ferrari wouldn't sell him one of theirs, he had it decked out and liveried in exactly the same style (except for the fact that he had stuck a shamrock next to the prancing horse)....Quite a sight to see. | ||
| Brian C Thenhaus (1day)
New member Username: 1day Post Number: 11 Registered: 3-2003 |
DES - I completly agree. However, the car sold at Barrett Jackson was a kind of uinque story. I beleive that it was owned by a fromer Yankee (can't recall the name) and was signed by the entire World Series winning team. All of the proceeds went to a charity (again, can't recall the name), so I'm sure more people were willing to pony up some $$ for it....those Yankee fans are nuts :-) If it did come with an engine, can you imagine rolling up your neighborhood street in that! Of course, I personally would still rather have the F1 car | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 171 Registered: 2-2003 |
A "running" F/1 or F-5000 or similar is really a misnomer. The first thing you have to do is completely disassemble the car, and rebuild it yourself anyway. These aren't cars that "run" without a crew and preparation anyway. You generally don't plop your ass into one of these things without knowing that every bolt and cable and bleed screw has been attached and torqued by someone you trust with your life. So, buying a cars that "runs" is meaningless to someone who's gonna campaign the thing, even at Historic stuff. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 170 Registered: 2-2003 |
John, rollers are common in racing because motors are a fungible commodity. Rebuild cycles are short (e.g., 5-8hrs on a Cosworth DFV) and most people who are going to run one of these things care about the tub and the equipment, not the motor. Lots of people sell a complete car, and then the purchaser finds that the motor is an old, tired retread, so buying a roller and using your own motors (Plural, for sure) is often the best way. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2837 Registered: 8-2002 |
John, i agree... There was some Barrett-Jackson auction thing on tv a few months ago and there was a drag race car up on the block- but it was for display only...! i don't want that hunk of ••••...! They couldn't pay me to take a 'for display only' racecar... Ridiculous... | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 569 Registered: 3-2002 |
WHY is it that most of these cars are sold as "rollers" ??? DO that many people buy these cars just to show them off without engines? I would have thought that if you were going to pay that much money for an F1 car, you would at least have the luxury of having a running car!!! Any thoughts? | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2836 Registered: 8-2002 |
Any of the old men here interested in a fresh, young set of marbles...?  Asking price is two mil... | ||
| Dr Tommy Cosgrove (Vwalfa4re)
Member Username: Vwalfa4re Post Number: 751 Registered: 5-2001 |
I got to visit one of Villeneuve's cars last year at the Indy F1  | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 167 Registered: 2-2003 |
Probably from an older gentleman if you can guarantee that the "priapism" you mention in another thread comes with them!! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2835 Registered: 8-2002 |
2 million...? That's all...? You think i can get 2 mill for both of my testes...? | ||
| Brian C Thenhaus (1day)
New member Username: 1day Post Number: 10 Registered: 3-2003 |
Jason - we may be talking about the same car, but one of Schumacher's cars was for sale in the Robb Report Ultimate Gifts issue last Christmas. Came w/ spare sets of wheels, tires, misc. parts and even a team of mechanics to prep it for track use (although as you say, I can't imagine that it wasn't detuned). I think the asking price was right around $2M | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 254 Registered: 10-2002 |
Thanks guys. I never stop being amazed by all of your knowledge of cars! | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 158 Registered: 2-2003 |
As a guess, Matt, I'd say you might buy the 2003 car after the season for $2M, but you'd probably have to agree to let Ferrari's F-1 Cliente program "run" the car for you, and that would cost LOTS. I'm not sure they'd sell a car before time had elapsed; teams like Sauber go to great lengths to duplicate the previous year's winners, and buying one for $2M and duping it up would be TOO easy. Otherwise, I'd say your question has been answered, an F2000 in running order will run you about a cool Million U.S. | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 260 Registered: 3-2001 |
Schumacher's '99 F1 was sold to an Irish gentleman for @ 500,000 UK Pounds ($800,000)....It comes with a bunch of caveots.... he wasn't allowed to let any other F1 team "look at it", it was factory supported, with the general mechanical 'chores' being undertaken by MHT in the UK. Also he didn't have access to the ECU, this part was only to be worked on by the factory, and the car had been 'de-tuned' (i.e not its original race capability).....I had the pleasure of sitting in it (there ain't much room), and rolling it with 1 finger (and it really was 1 finger) When you see how little there is that seperates you from the ground, there's a new found respect for these drivers!!! It was actually one of those days that you never forget, because right next to schumacher's car was Gilles Villeneuve's F1 Ferrari....Comparing the two cars was like looking at steam versus rocket power....Although if you didn't know better, you'd swear that Villeneuve's car was the stronger of the two.... | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2832 Registered: 8-2002 |
i can take that to mean several things... i'll just ask for clarification, since it's normal for me to be confused... | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 173 Registered: 11-2002 |
I guess we know why Enzo had to resort to selling road cars to keep his racing afloat! | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 172 Registered: 11-2002 |
You've got to keep the sponsors happy. They're shelling out a boatload of money to these teams. It includes catering and special passes to the events. Keep in mind Bernie owns the rights to all on track hospitality, so rest assured the prices are through the roof. The example given is McLaren and Williams. 3day paddock club tickets..........2.8k-4.3k/person Number of guests per weekend.......150-200 Annual cost........................7-11mm Of course, there'll be another couple of million thrown in for other goodies the guests get. F1 is definitely not cheap. | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 493 Registered: 11-2001 |
Better check DES nuts! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2829 Registered: 8-2002 |
Corporate entertaining...? Wtf...? Shouldn't the corporations be entertaining them since they win so much...? What exactly does that mean...? | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 170 Registered: 11-2002 |
OK, facts from F1 Racing magazine... Ferrari (in USD) Research and development.............20mm Wind tunnel operating costs..........15.1mm Car manufacturing costs..............4.1mm Travel and accomodation..............18nmm Operating the car at races...........28.5mm Team salaries........................41.4mm Driver salaries......................44mm Corporate entertaining...............9.7mm Total operating costs................443.8mm The cars actually appreciate in value as they finish their tenure in GP. The history they accumulate more than triples the price. Looks like I'm going to open a wind tunnel! Geez, 15mm?! | ||
| Matt S (F40only)
Junior Member Username: F40only Post Number: 53 Registered: 3-2003 |
http://www.ferraris-online.com/cars/F1_122_178/F1a.html Here is a 1997 F310 B. It was advertised at 775000 or best offer. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 169 Registered: 11-2002 |
Don't forget the team salaries. Schumi and Ruebens get paid quite a bit. The rest of the team doesn't work for free either. | ||
| Brad-Mo (007)
New member Username: 007 Post Number: 9 Registered: 2-2003 |
The team budget for 2003 is approx. $250M. From this they produce 6-8 complete cars. Deduct race day and travel from the budget ($100M) divide the, say, 8 cars by $150... $ 18,750,000.00 and they would be break even. So add a profit margin and around $20 million should do it. No warranty but 1.9% for 999 months would make it a great deal! ;) | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 253 Registered: 10-2002 |
Can someone please take a guess at my question. Like a said, a pretend car lot selling a new 2003 F! car....what's the price? | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 150 Registered: 2-2003 |
Expenses multiply exponentially. An Atlantic doesn't beat the tub and components to death like a bigger car; therefore significantly cheaper to run, particularly as a historic, where I'm assuming your tire budget didn't include 3 sets/weekend. Similarly, those lovely Cosworth kit cars use a motor that is essentially two Atlantic BDA's together, with fuel injection. Yet, they use the same essential gearbox, the FT-200, and therefore gears become throw-away components too. Finally, fluoroscopy alone would break the budget, because you've gotta remember you're dealing with a REAL racing car, and crack testing is vital! I learned this after testing the T-333CS for Road Atlanta (about a hundred years ago!); our elder statesman chief maniac took one of the front rotors and broke it by slamming it on a workbench; no more complaints about the cost of new brakes!! As with real racing, the cost of the car is incidental; the real cost is running the damn thing!! To quote a wonderful lady at HGP, "Ferrari F/1s are at the VERY deep end of the pool!" | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
New member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 29 Registered: 1-2003 |
One other piece of info, our weekends with crew would run $3500+/- and that is if nothing broke. When Scott ran that F-1 Car it took 3 full time crew just for his car and landed his weekend expense in the $10-11k range. Like one other poster stated motor rebuilds were in the $75k range whereas our Cosworth rebuilds thru Steve Jennings in California were in the 6-10K range. | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
New member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2003 |
Here is a link to a site that I listed and sold my Formula Altantic Race Car. I raced in the Vintage Formula series (SVRA,HSR, VSCDA). http://www.race-cars.com/ It is an interesting site with current and historic race cars for sale. One of my friends who I race against sold his Formula Atlantic and bought an ex Schumacher F-1 1990 or 1991. The car was never raced but used as a test car. He paid $250k and that was a year before 9-11. | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 387 Registered: 11-2002 |
Jim, pictures of the shipment from Ferrari, SpA?? Scan and post?? Sam, same customer I converted his street F40 to race specification. Almost purchased an LM, though did not. Had one in the showroom in '93 that I have detailed pics of, someday I'll scan the negatives and post. It was a pushrod car actually campaigned. Efwon, turned out to be an electrical gremlin, and it was faster to bypass the original circuitry rather than reverse-engineer the entire system. It's not really a drawback, though. The car is very drivable, very fun (1100 lb, 700HP) and reasonable to campaign as a vintage car. Brian French is doing the same thing with his Ferrari F1, and you can see him at the B.R.I.C. at Road America every July. Brian's car is geared down though, MAT122 is geared for over 200mph. I had Emco Gears build 10 dog ring synchos for the car, no problem. Yes, it can be a bit frustrating, but it all got sorted out. Fun to dig into the history. I made contact with many people formerly involved in the build, and sympathetic engineering assistance from OEM's, too. Like I had to modify Champion spark plugs, and got parts direct from their engineering dept. Rob | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 386 Registered: 4-2002 |
"Mid '70s F/1 Ferrari like the Lauda car tested by Phil Hill for Road and Track weighed ~1,200lbs, and had 475ish HP. As I recall, the car did 0-100mph in 4.3 spinning the wheels all the way, and the quarter mile in 9 seconds at 170mph. " And they have to be even faster now! | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2821 Registered: 8-2002 |
LMAO, Modman...! | ||
| Anthony_Ferrari (Anthony_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Anthony_ferrari Post Number: 205 Registered: 11-2002 |
My wife is selling an ex Schumacher Benetton. I sat in it last year before it went to the Beaulieu Motor Museum: http://www.vavavoom.biz/parts/b193b.htm  | ||
| Modified348ts (Modman)
Member Username: Modman Post Number: 488 Registered: 11-2001 |
But DES if you give both your testicals you won't have the balls to drive it. | ||
| BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm Post Number: 3293 Registered: 2-2001 |
We have an F1 car just like the Prost one you guys are talking about at work now, at least it was there the last time I went in the showroom (not often). I don't think it had the engine and gearbox in it though. Talk about the ultimate track though. The most impressive thing to me is how wide the slicks are, ridiculous considering how small and light the car is, really makes you realize how slow F50s, Enzos, (308s for that matter), etc. are. At my moms work (MBUSA) they have one of the McLaren F1 cars, a 2001 car if I remember correctly. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 149 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rob, I was given to understand that the sequential boxes in those cars were almost impossible for privateers to run. Did you have to bypass it completely? What kind of issues did it present? Personally, I'd prefer the romance of one of the flat 12 mid to late '70s cars, but those 3.5 V-12s have to be a real hoot!! | ||
| James J. McGee (Dr_ferrari)
Junior Member Username: Dr_ferrari Post Number: 58 Registered: 7-2002 |
Rob, I remember when we sent you that car(prost F1), still have pictures. we made up a very small window sticker for it - HAHA. Ferrari did sell a few of the old F1 cars. most all were under 1M. Regards, Jim | ||
| Sam Jones (2mnytoys)
New member Username: 2mnytoys Post Number: 6 Registered: 2-2002 |
Rob, I wondered if it were. Do you know if this is the same guy that owns (or owned?) the F40LM? | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 384 Registered: 11-2002 |
Sam, same chassis. | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 251 Registered: 10-2002 |
Hubert, I knew there was no way possible because I'm sure that if Ferrari did sell them we'd see every big Microsoft guy out there trying his hand at formula one. That said anyone wanna make an estimate on a NEW one | ||
| Sam Jones (2mnytoys)
New member Username: 2mnytoys Post Number: 5 Registered: 2-2002 |
At Lake Forest Sports Cars (north suburbs of Chicago) there's a 1991 642 (Ex Prost) for A$595,000 http://www.lfsc.com/html/preown.cfm | ||
| Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr Post Number: 382 Registered: 11-2002 |
I managed Prost's 1991 642 for a client for a few years. We got a reliable two hours until a problem sidelined the car for a few years while I went back and forth with the factory for parts and knowledge. Beautiful car. We ran it at Road America at the Challenge event in 1995. The Challenge race was over at 2:00, so we had open track time until 5:00. No other cars on the track, full corner workers, for anyone who's been to Road America, from the start/finish, we could here the car all the way to Canada Corner. The entire four miles, every shift. Ran a 2:05 lap no sweat. (Champ cars do it in the 1:40's, but mortals in 700 hp Can Am vintage cars lap about 2:19 or so. A showroom stock Corvette will do a lap at 2:25.) Wayne Obrey at Motion Products has it now in Neenah, WI. Finaly bypassed the original shifter circuitry to fix, found a few other problems, too. If you were at Cavalino the last couple years you saw it. Chassis MAT122, for sale. I think the advertised price is $700k. (920) 725-4688, for more info on the car. BTW, Motion Products also restored the cover car on last months Forza. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 627 Registered: 1-2002 |
Oh, Matt, that's easy. You couldn't; that said, a rolling chassis (costs the manufacture; i.e. Ferrari) $250k + sans engine and gearbox. Engine and gearbox could easily push the cost into the millions. | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Junior Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 250 Registered: 10-2002 |
Sorry I should have clarified myself. I was talking about a 2003 Ferrari F1 car. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 624 Registered: 1-2002 |
EFWUN- I wasn't attacking your credibility, just briefly pointed out the there are F1 cars in the 150k range, I did concede, by listing the chassis makes, that they were not Ferrari F1 cars. I'm also not entirely green on the topic. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 148 Registered: 2-2003 |
I had briefly thought of joining the Historic GP club, and running a few of their races this year. To that end, I researched Ferrari F/1 cars, and found the costs to be prohibitive, at least for now. I also found that decent Cosworth F/1 cars were $175K and up, with the exception of a beautiful March owned by Rich Griot in Seattle. The only stuff in the $100K range was cobbled up crap. I don't post here without a solid background for my comments. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 147 Registered: 2-2003 |
Hubert, that's exactly what I said, Cosworth kit cars, et al, are available in that range. Ferrari Formula One cars are not. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 4032 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think the 80's turbo models are the cheapest Ferrari F1 cars you'll find at $300-500k. | ||
| Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh Post Number: 621 Registered: 1-2002 |
EFWUN- You can find ex-GP cars for around 100k. Depending up the era, livery, and history, they may come as rollers, or complete packages w/ a lot of spares. Albeit, most, of the cars available in the 150k range are: Arrows, Tyrell, and Benetton; not bad, per se, but not historic chassis'; snoop around: http://www.race-cars.com/carsales/f1s.htm | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2820 Registered: 8-2002 |
LOL, Thanks, Taek, but no, he's right, i was really confused... (as usual...) | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 162 Registered: 11-2002 |
EFWUN, I think DES was pointing out Mitch's errant r in scared. | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 339 Registered: 9-2001 |
For a variety of Formula one Ferraris look here: http://www.modena-motorsport.de/verkauf/racecars.html The owner has very good contacts to Maranello. He provides the whole service for these cars. For details see the rest of the homepage. Cars from them are from 250000 Euros upwards due to racing sucesses he said in an interview. Schumacher cars are especially expensive! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2819 Registered: 8-2002 |
"...spinning the wheels all the way, and the quarter mile in 9 seconds at 170mph." LMAO, i can only imagine...! That's hilarious... | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 146 Registered: 2-2003 |
DES: Mid '70s F/1 Ferrari like the Lauda car tested by Phil Hill for Road and Track weighed ~1,200lbs, and had 475ish HP. As I recall, the car did 0-100mph in 4.3 spinning the wheels all the way, and the quarter mile in 9 seconds at 170mph. Not really something for a novice, or non-racer! | ||
| Red (Redhead)
Junior Member Username: Redhead Post Number: 195 Registered: 12-2001 |
http://www.symbolicmotors.com/framesets/page2.html As well here...... I know someone in the bay area that has another 97 F310b, and have seen it in person at his house. He still has not tracked it or anything close, but that is his intention........Who knows! | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Junior Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 160 Registered: 11-2002 |
Look into spending over $1mm for a decent F1 car. http://www.carsinternational.com/ if you're interested. Some pretty cool cars in there. http://www.grandprixclassics.com/ also has a bit of a selection and has been known to run into some. I considered an older one and then I went to the track and spun my friend's Alfa GTA. Waaaaaay beyond my pitiful skill levels these cars. I can't imagine what a rush it would be to drive one though. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2818 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mitch, i'm confused, how did he scar himself...? | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 383 Registered: 4-2002 |
There was a story about 15 years ago about a rich gentleman in Las Vegas who bought one of the ex Lauda Ferrari F1 cars (2 years after it last raced). Ferrari indicated that it would continue to supply parts and service to this car as long as this car was not use to race against them. He rented the parking lot at Ceasars palace, had the F1 mechanics start the car up, warm it up, and finish prepping the car. The owner got in, drove it around the lot once, and got out. He had scarred hmself silly without even getting close to any of the cars limits! And this was back when F1 had only 400+HP instead of the 800+HP of today! | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Junior Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 145 Registered: 2-2003 |
Unfortunately, Frank is wrong. The only types of F/1 cars available for that money are the Cosworth Kit cars from the 3 liter Formula, or later 3.5 liters such as the March Leyton house cars or the Tyrrells. See, e.g., March 811 ex-Derek Daly available for circa $125K. I looked for a late '70s 312T, preferably ex-Villeneuve, and found that they run $600K to $1M. Motor rebuilds around $75K, and take a long time! A 1968 312B ex-Ickx was offered for $1M, perhaps available a little cheaper. Ex-Lauda, say a 1975 312, circa $1M. Also, parts are difficult, unless you enroll in Ferrari's "F-1 Cliente" program, where Ferrari runs the car for you, at an astronomical fee, see., e.g., $10,000 for front a-arm. Facts, from research with Historic GP, and overseas at Cars International etc. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 2815 Registered: 8-2002 |
Unless i completely misinterpreted what i read, there's an article in a recent issue of some car magazine about a guy who just bought one of Ferrari's F1 cars... i laughed out loud when i read the part about 17,500 RPMs... it didn't mention a price, though... Damn, i'd give both testicles to own a Ferrari F1 car (complete with pit crew, of course... ) | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 1966 Registered: 9-2001 |
You can buy a used F1 car for $100k or less. You see them advertised from time to time. An ex-championship car will cost more. | ||
| Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Junior Member Username: Matt_lamotte Post Number: 249 Registered: 10-2002 |
Say for some crazy reason Ferrari decided to sell an F1 car off of a lot how much do you think one would cost. i know that an incredible amount of money goes into building them so I'm sure it's well into the millions. Anybody have a guess. I'm going to say at least 2-3 million. That should come with a warranty too right |