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David S (Djs308)
Junior Member
Username: Djs308
Post Number: 108
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 9:14 pm: | |
I think Ferrari was attempting to provide a solution to those (few) people who complained about excessive clutch pedal effort. With the Valeo, you have the "shift gate" experience but not the sore left leg muscles. It was to be a compromise because a 'true" automatic would have been viewed as heresy by many. BTW, that's also why Ferrari has not and will not produce a 4 door sedan (unless you are the Sultan). |
Ronald Vallejo (Ron328)
New member
Username: Ron328
Post Number: 29
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 6:55 pm: | |
The F1 shifters in the 355 and 360s were "derived" from the same valeo principle, but that's were the similarity ends.
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Brian Keegan (4redude)
Junior Member
Username: 4redude
Post Number: 85
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 5:48 pm: | |
"That's probably why they never became popular
and not used on later Ferraris."
What do you think was the predecessor to the F1 shifters in the 355's and 360's? |
Ronald Vallejo (Ron328)
New member
Username: Ron328
Post Number: 27
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 12:39 pm: | |
That's probably why they never became popular
and not used on later Ferraris. |
Terry (Dogue)
Member
Username: Dogue
Post Number: 306
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 7:26 am: | |
I know of two owners that have them and they both seem to have more than usual problems with the cars. I have seen them both without their cars for weeks waiting for parts. With the number of problems most people complain about, why introduce something that is so rare and complicated. |
Ronald Vallejo (Ron328)
New member
Username: Ron328
Post Number: 26
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 2:31 am: | |
FWIW, Keith Bluemel (in his book, "Orig. Ferrari V8) said it was made by a French company. It's
an "automatic manual transmission." |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member
Username: Jmg
Post Number: 403
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 2:31 am: | |
PS, it was a Ferrari option. |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member
Username: Jmg
Post Number: 402
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, March 25, 2003 - 2:29 am: | |
Essentially, it works like a standard manual without a clutch pedal. It was manufactured by a French company (Valeo), it works by engaging the clutch based on sensor input from gear lever and throttle and engaged in something like 100 milliseconds. It had all sorts of safety features for door open, too high/low a gear etc.
I drove one when I was shopping for my first T, I keep putting my left foot on the floor in hopes of engaging the clutch, pretty weird but I assume you would get used to it. I backed away from it because I figured if the windows had trouble going up and down, what was the likelihood of this working on a daily driver?
- JMG |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member
Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 595
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, March 24, 2003 - 11:43 pm: | |
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2408734928&category=6212
Ive never heard of the Valeo clutchless transmission before. Was it a Ferrari option or added on to some T's by an outside company? How does it work? |