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Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Username: Lee168
Post Number: 25
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 2:50 pm: | |
Efwun, I've contacted Ferrari of Dallas and they have not heard any technical update from the factory concerning the remapping of the CPU in relationship to the suspension. However, they are looking into this and will get back to me. Thanks for your info. |
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 464
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 9:32 am: | |
You know, Shelbee, I think the only source other than the dealers is GAREDcars.com. I'm not sure if Ray has these available.
They're REALLY pricey from the dealers!! |
Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Junior Member
Username: Shelbee
Post Number: 180
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 12:04 am: | |
EWFUN, since you have a 550 as well,
Do you know where I can get the 19" Modular wheels for 550?? The fitting is the same for the 575M. Even I like standard 18" 575M wheels.
Any source for take off wheels I can buy?? |
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 463
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 11:52 pm: | |
Eddie Lee, I was under the impression that there were faults in the CPU of only certain cars that left those cars under-damped. The suspension settings on the 575 I tested were totally cool. I'm thinking this is just a warranty repair, no? |
Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Junior Member
Username: Shelbee
Post Number: 175
Registered: 12-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 6:13 pm: | |
God I love the Maranello.
Perhaps I should keep the 550 and sell my 360 F1 to 575M F1?? |
Eddie Lee (Lee168)
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Username: Lee168
Post Number: 23
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 5:10 pm: | |
Efwun, Manu, can you tell me more about the re-mapping of the CPU to improve the "softness" of the suspension? Are the dealers calling these 575's in to update the CPU? I have also found that my 575F1 (w/Fiorano Package) feels too soft in the regular mode and not much better in the sport mode. Thanks in advance for your input. BTW, I would also agree with Dean on the smoothness of the F1 transmission. It's far better than that of the 360. |
Dean (Deanger)
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Username: Deanger
Post Number: 18
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 4:36 pm: | |
Driving the F1 took about 12 minutes to "master" and about 5 seconds to be comfortable |
Manu (Manu)
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Username: Manu
Post Number: 691
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 3:48 pm: | |
I am yet to drive a 575 and I believe the early cars chassis softness problems have been conclusively resolved (NOT as the dumbass journos think by the Fiorano handling pack but, as Efwun mentioned, newly remapped 'suspension control chips etc....').
Firsthand feedback I have so far received is that the 575M is faster than the 550 than just the paper BHP differences suggest.... basically discernibly so.
As I stated in another post, I am now positive that the Maranello is comfortably the best car Ferrari have made recently and so I'm aching to experience a so-called uprated version a la 575... and if it IS as good as I'm hoping then I will (eventually) get one... Rosso or black would be the next question...
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Kz (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma
Post Number: 20
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 3:16 pm: | |
Dean: How steep was your learning curve for your F1? Was this your first F1 Ferrari? What do you like and what do you not like about the 575M? Thanks in advance...
oh, please post some pics of your awesome automobiles!
Kz |
Dean (Deanger)
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Username: Deanger
Post Number: 17
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:34 pm: | |
I have a 575 F1 and everyone who had taken a ride with me has been stunned at the smoothness of the F1, especially as compared to other F-Car F1s.
I know a lot of people knock F1, but for me it is yet another different kind of driving experiences. It is to me just as fun as a gated shifter, in some ways, more so because I can pretend I am an F1 driver!
kzma, I highly recommend you do what I did. Drive them all 550, 575 F1, 575 stick. That is the best way and the only way |
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 441
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:13 am: | |
Beautiful Modena, by the way! Good luck! |
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 440
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:11 am: | |
KZ: I read a test in a U.K. mag, discussed the diving and porpoising. I did some research, and came away with the conclusion that that car had a bad cpu or some microprocessor failure in the shock program. The 575s I've driven were fine; virtually identical to the 550. |
kzma (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma
Post Number: 16
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:09 am: | |
only problem is there are not that many around. I've heard only 10% of the 575s coming to the states are manuals.
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kzma (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma
Post Number: 15
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:05 am: | |
Thanks for the info. I'm now very seriously in the market for a 6spd 575.
Alex: After going through the archives....I'm left with the impression that the smoothness of the F1 tranny is in question. Possibly due to the competency of the operator? Is that an issue that you had to overcome with time behind the wheel? Others have talked about the suspension diving and lifting during stops and acceleration. What are your thoughts on that?
Or maybe your car has the fiorano handling package.
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EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 438
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Monday, April 07, 2003 - 12:04 am: | |
Alex: You've missed the point I was (perhaps inelegantly) trying to make, to wit: traction is really the limiting factor in these cars below about 70mph. I won't argue the relative merits above 120mph, a) I don't really know for sure; and b) my guesstimates are based on my car, which may have just a tiny bit more poop because of the straight (post cat) exhaust. |
Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
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Username: Alexpapas
Post Number: 12
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:58 pm: | |
I enjoy the 575's F-1 tranny more than I thought. It is vastly better than the 360, probably due to the massive torque available. The car is very smooth at city driving speeds, but it really comes into its own under rapid acceleration. I've seen all the road tests where the stats are very similar, but in the real world in the hands of civilian (not professional) drivers I'm sure that a 575 will easily beat a manual 550 from rest, IMVHO
With regard to value, early Testarossas are pitiful but later 512M versions have held up pretty well simply because they are better cars. I'm sure the same will hold true here |
EFWUN (Efwun)
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Username: Efwun
Post Number: 436
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 11:50 pm: | |
KZMA: I drove both before I bought my '01 550. I removed all mufflers on my car, adding perhaps 10hp, maybe 15, and considering that a 550 is 175lb lighter than the 575, there doesn't seem to be any significant difference. The car smokes the tires from a 2nd gear roll. Also, my car has Fiorano, and the handling dynamics are pretty good, can't really appreciate any difference between mine and a 575. I enjoy the 6spd, so the availability of F1 isn't a selling point for me. Finally, a perfect, super low mile (e.g., 1K miles) '01 will cost $60K ($180ish v. $240ish) less than the 575. For me, that was the only significant difference. |
kzma (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma
Post Number: 12
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Sunday, April 06, 2003 - 6:10 pm: | |
I'm considering the purchase of a late model 550 or a recent 575. For all who have driven both, is there that big a difference to warrant the price premium? A concern of mine is the seemingly huge depreciation of the 550's occuring to the 575 also. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks |