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"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3682
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 3:57 pm: | |
Tom,
That might be a good idea.
M |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3681
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 3:56 pm: | |
Doug.
No problem. Thank you to Weldon as well for looking deep in the car. I guess "perfect" is in the eye of the seller.
Matt
Hans,
Thanks buddy. I am touched.
Matt |
Larson Douglas Hudson (Cavallino1968)
New member
Username: Cavallino1968
Post Number: 6
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 2:56 pm: | |
Thanks Matt...
You just saved me from flying cross country to look at a rough car described as "perfect".
Thanks again
Doug Hudson |
Dan (Bobafett)
Member
Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 366
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 11:52 am: | |
Dave,
I have seen a 456 convertible (black? / tan) for which the rear seats were removed to make space for the top at Laguna Seca parked under the shade.
Stunning - absolutely beautiful, however I can't comment on mechanical integrity as I simply walked by.
--Dan |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member
Username: Davewapinski
Post Number: 533
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
Also curious about how the 456 handles against the 360. The 360 should be more tossable, but what exactly are the handling differences? What are the differences in acceltration, would think that the 456 would win there? |
Dave Wapinski (Davewapinski)
Member
Username: Davewapinski
Post Number: 532
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:52 am: | |
I have heard that there are several firms in LA making convertibles out of the 456, but one of them is really good.
Has anyone ever seen one of these and how did it turn out, both beauty and mechanically? |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member
Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3187
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:50 am: | |
maybe we should start a resource list of people willing to check out cars for potetial buyers - assuming we don't get every Tom, •••• and Harry, asking for help |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4261
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:41 am: | |
Jimpo,
thanks but not till we have the deal together. He wants to buy a Euro 360 Spider and we are going back and forth on that issue. Till that is not resolved I will not take the 456.
I may get back to you on that though. Thanks
James,
what can I say....outch! |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 955
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:08 am: | |
Martin
Wharever you do make SURE the auto transaxle is 100%. A new one costs $52,000!
Best
Jim |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1603
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 9:04 am: | |
Martin, do you need me to go look at the 456 in Dallas? I'll be happy to take it out for a, um, test ride. I promise not to take it past the redline. Much.
When I bought my car I was looking for a PPI in SoCal and got two quotes in the $300 range. That was 18mos ago, are PPI's keeping up with real estate out there? |
Larson Douglas Hudson (Cavallino1968)
New member
Username: Cavallino1968
Post Number: 5
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 7:58 am: | |
I am very appreciative of Matt.
Frankly, I am overwhelmed by his generosity...lending his time and experience for someone like me who he does not know.
His help will make this much easier...
The dealer does need to be much more aggressive on the price...I agree. |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member
Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4253
Registered: 5-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 4:45 am: | |
Funny I am looking for a 456GTA for my wife. I am negotiation one in Dallas at the moment. This is a 1997 with 10K Miles for about the same as yours. Make sure to negotiate your price down.
They will take a little more hit. We have seen some with 30K Miles already for $ 70K selling, same year and I do not see 10K Miles being worth $20K price. |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member
Username: Jmg
Post Number: 429
Registered: 9-2001
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 2:36 am: | |
Blackhorse Motors is right around the corner from them...(310) 815-1957 and ask for Carl. I have used him before... It will not cost $800 unless inflation has really hit the neighborhood.
- JMG |
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4
Post Number: 1086
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:30 am: | |
Shhh.... Don't let it get out that Matt is a real good guy, would give the shirt off his back for anyone here. We wouldn't want to soil his reputation. |
Dan (Bobafett)
Member
Username: Bobafett
Post Number: 362
Registered: 9-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, April 10, 2003 - 12:04 am: | |
While this has nothing to do with the mechanics, PPI, etc. of the car, I have two comments:
1) I am, as always, impressed with the willingness of FC members to go out of their way for others. Kudos to Matt Lemus.
2) Stunning car. Hopefully it'll work out for you - the 456 is arguably the prettiest 'modern' Ferrari to date. Definetly a beautiful car.
--Dan |
wm hart (Whart)
Member
Username: Whart
Post Number: 891
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:53 pm: | |
Not to be a downer, but there should be any number of 456 (non-M's) available at pretty decent prices these days. I'm not adverse to shopping outside your neighborhood (i bought my first F car from the authorized dealer in B-Hills), but if this car doesn't qualify as a 100, there are probably many more to look at. Also, service records, regular history with known shop, etc. are a must. Good luck. You've got good help on this board. |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3678
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
Doug,
You have Voice Mail and e-mail
Matt |
Larson Douglas Hudson (Cavallino1968)
New member
Username: Cavallino1968
Post Number: 4
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:47 pm: | |
Other things I would like to know are as follows...
1. Flexibility on price and where they think the car would sell at...they really dont give that up on the phone at long distance.
2. How many owners and what states the car lived in? Last owner name and number would be fantastic.
3. An independent appraisal of cosmetic condition...interior and exterior. ANY dings or dents etc.
4. Last major service and when cambelt was last done?
5. Accurate report on window alignment and seal.
6. To find out if full service records are with the car?
7. Exhaust is it oem or tubi/etc?
8. Condition of wheels and tires.
9. Length they have had the car for sale.
10. Do they own it or is it consigned?
11. Reputation of the dealer?
12. Ferrari Dealership where the car was sold and service? So I can call them with the VIN and get records/information.
13. Anything else I may be missing.
This f-car purchase will be my first. I must say I have thoroughly enjoyed spending time in my friends 2002 456M GTA...why he ordered an automatic I will never understand...
Thanks in advance,
Doug Hudson
[email protected]
615-390-4327 |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3676
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:38 pm: | |
Larson,
It's about 30 minutes from my house. I will go in the afternoon. I'll check to see if some other f-chatters can come with me.
My e-mail address is [email protected]
What else do you want to know about the car?
Matt |
Larson Douglas Hudson (Cavallino1968)
New member
Username: Cavallino1968
Post Number: 3
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:36 pm: | |
The Don
That would be great if you could check it out in person...how far is it from you?
I was told windows have been fixed and there are records...
From what I can tell...
1. Plastic around ac looks fine
2. Leather dash and shelf is not pulling
3. They claim no paint or damage history
4. Curious about windows however...
5. Curious about electric headlights and rear shocks
6. Curious about brakes and tires and wheels
Thanks
Doug |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3675
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:29 pm: | |
Jim,
A PPI in So Cal is $800 +
Larson,
Auto Gallery in Woodland Hills (818.884.4411 ask for Alan Johnson) |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1597
Registered: 7-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:26 pm: | |
I think I'd pay for a PPI before I got on a plane. A PPI is $300, a trip to CA from Nashville is a weekend. |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3674
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:25 pm: | |
Looks Good. DO you know if it has had the windows fixed? (1995 SB) or if it has records?
If you want I can drive there tomorrow afternoon and take a look at it in person for you.
Matt |
Larson Douglas Hudson (Cavallino1968)
New member
Username: Cavallino1968
Post Number: 2
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, April 09, 2003 - 8:23 pm: | |
I am thinking about buying a 1995 456 GT and have been researching a few on the market...
Before I hop on plane from Nashville to California...is anyone familiar with this car in Hollywood?
http://www.jemmotorcorp.com/detail.cfm?iid=19251#
Any feedback posted here or emailed to [email protected] is greatly appreciated...
The asking price is high but what do you guys think market is on this car?
Thanks in advance |