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Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Junior Member Username: Karmavore
Post Number: 133 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Sunday, April 20, 2003 - 1:26 am: | |
Oh, no, that's such a shame... |
Dave328GTB (Hardtop)
Member Username: Hardtop
Post Number: 505 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:20 pm: | |
Here's an interesting anecdote about a white Ferrari. I was talking today with sales manager at ferrari of Denver (who owns a white 328). I asked if they finally sold the white 348 that had been there more than a year. What happened was they struck a deal with body shop and had it painted yellow. Never made it back to the floor. A guy saw it when it was being cleaned up in the shop and bought it. They had it over year before painting. I have a white car and a white truck, but have to admit, I don't like white Ferraris. Dave |
Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member Username: Steve308gtsi
Post Number: 52 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 7:22 pm: | |
Thanks Jordan. I am in Florida right now and if the one I found here doesn't check out on Monday. I will look into that one when I get home. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 743 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 1:48 pm: | |
Steve, White TR at Newport Autosport www.newportautosport.com |
Steve M (Steve308gtsi)
Junior Member Username: Steve308gtsi
Post Number: 51 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, April 19, 2003 - 10:58 am: | |
My favorite Ferrari in white is the Testarossa. I am currently looking for a perfect example in that color. IMO it looks stunning in white. I have seen a few 360 spiders in white and I must say they looked good also. |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 1:17 pm: | |
Hi Edvar, got your email. Will send a reply in a couple of mins. The other white ones are probably repaints or imports as Kroymans only handled the Testarossa according to themselves. Jack |
Michael Wogronic (Michael_fvm)
Junior Member Username: Michael_fvm
Post Number: 55 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 1:11 pm: | |
Bert: Yes, I am sure that the yellow 328 is aluminum bodied. |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 115 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:50 pm: | |
Jack, I don't know about Kroymans, but there are several more white Ferraris in The Netherlands. I know a white Mondial, a white 328, a white Testarossa, a white 308 .... By the way: nice page! I just sent you an email ... |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2138 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:25 pm: | |
There were a few aluminum 328s built by the factory but they are rare. |
Bert Kanters (Bert308)
New member Username: Bert308
Post Number: 30 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:23 pm: | |
To Michael fvm: Are you sure the yellow 328 has an aluminium body? I find that hard to believe, they were never build like that, only the front hood has always been alu. |
Jason Wesoky (Wesokyjb)
Junior Member Username: Wesokyjb
Post Number: 66 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 11:58 am: | |
IMHO, white looks cheesy, although I like it on the BB. White just screams 80's excess to me, but hey, what do I know? As for affecting price, I'm shopping for a 348 and have been tempted by white ones because they are between $5k-10k less than red, black, yellow ones. The money saved on the price may enable one to repaint it and still have a few $k left over. Red interiors are terrible, IMO. It'd be like driving around in a cheap Chinese restaurant. |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 21 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 10:19 am: | |
Kroymans in the Netherlands only sold one new white Fcar over the years, a Testarossa. Says a lot about the Dutch taste for white I guess... Jack |
Edvar van Daalen (Evandaalen)
Junior Member Username: Evandaalen
Post Number: 114 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 10:11 am: | |
Hi Steve! Good to see you here too. For more pics of the white 512 BBi, check my site at www.red-headed.com (Photo Gallery, then Viva Italia). Regarding the white Enzo: it's not a standard colour, but there really is a white Enzo in Japan! |
Michael Wogronic (Michael_fvm)
Junior Member Username: Michael_fvm
Post Number: 53 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 9:50 am: | |
Steve: the yellow 1989 328 on our web site has an aluminum body as well as a 288 GTO style interior and has had some engine work done. Originally came out of Houston. |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 738 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 2:46 am: | |
Nice looking white 355 on ebay right now. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411816311&category=6212 I never minded white on certain ferraris. I think the 355 and 348 look pretty sharp in them. Although my Mustang is white and its hell to keep it clean! |
Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 102 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 2:22 am: | |
Vincent, mine is blu/tan, best 348 color IMHO but then im biased, your right its a little hard to tell in the pic, ill have to take some new ones, driving these things is addicting, i find myself making excuses just to take the car out, i feel a drive to santa barbara to visit friends coming on this weekend |
Vincent (Vincent348)
New member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 45 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, April 18, 2003 - 12:46 am: | |
congratulations jscott! I love the 348, I'm a little bit biased, but it is such a fun car to drive. Craig, what color is yours? It's kind of hard to tell from your profile.
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Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 101 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 11:59 pm: | |
Vincent, yes, 27K miles, not the price, very pretty car, it was the 348 that got me addicted |
j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott
Post Number: 350 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:44 pm: | |
Only for you my friend! By the way, I forgot about the "extra" that should add another couple of thousand!!! |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 1454 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:16 pm: | |
One question: Do the plate frames stay with the car? |
j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott
Post Number: 349 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:13 pm: | |
O.K. I made the deal on the 348 so my white/red 89 328 with 36000 and a fresh major service is going to be on the market. Wife said one or the other, maybe she can find a new place to stay? My 328 is in excellent shape and I think I will take $46,500. Any takers? I love it and want to keep both. We will see what she says when the 348 gets here. |
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 1453 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 10:01 pm: | |
Glad I could be of assistance, even if by accident. |
Brian M (Theferrarikid)
New member Username: Theferrarikid
Post Number: 7 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 9:49 pm: | |
L Wayne: Meanwhile... somewhere else on FerrariChat.com: http://www.conceptcarz.com/folder/vehicle.asp?car_id=605 (in bewilderment)(theferrarikid) Oh My... Something Amazing Just Happened. I was always DOUBTFUL that Frank Beard actually owned the azure blue 308 the dealer in St. Charles had for sale. Yet, behold... The car BEHIND the "ZZTOPless" GTO (in the link referred to IN YOUR reference link) Looks Like... oh my!, (quickly) I think it is... (excitedly) YES, IT IS!!! (in triumph now)...AN AZURE BLUE MID 80's 308!! THERE REALLY IS A FERRARI GOD!!!!! (large crowd cheering now) Thank You, L wayne!! Apologies for the drama, but I saw that car for sale about 4 years ago and the burning quest for truth regarding veteran rocker Frank Beard's ownership of it DROVE ME INSANE!!! |
Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member Username: Ralessi
Post Number: 97 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 9:27 pm: | |
That white Enzo looks surprisingly good, actually, it might be better than any of the colors that it is actually available in...
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L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks
Post Number: 1451 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 9:11 pm: | |
Frank Beard is an avid Ferrari collector and has owned many of them over the years. See also: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/21/233988.html?1050626377 |
Brian M (Theferrarikid)
New member Username: Theferrarikid
Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 8:54 pm: | |
Whart, When I bought my red 308 (see pic) I remember finding one owned by Frank Beard. It was in the Dupont Registry. It was "azure blue" I believe, an 83 or 84 with roughly 20-30K+ mi. It was priced in the mid to high thirties, and the dealer was located in St. Charles, IL. I guess Frank Beard had quite an affinity for 308s? |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1670 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 8:52 pm: | |
Here's that white BB512:
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Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1669 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 8:51 pm: | |
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Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1659 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 8:45 pm: | |
The black/red interior on that yellow car is NOT pretty. |
Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr
Post Number: 1668 Registered: 1-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 8:00 pm: | |
I too would say that white carries a $ penalty (less interest from first time buyers so a smaller demand) even though it looks pretty good sometimes -- I recall that BB512 in white was absolutely gorgeous. Some evidence from Michael W.'s site, but the 25% spread (with more miles!) surprises me: http://www.foxvalleymotorcars.com/search/default.asp?Mynewused=&MyYear=&MyMake=FERRARI&MyModel=328&MyPriceBottom=&MyPriceTop= Comments Michael? |
Vincent (Vincent348)
New member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 44 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 7:25 pm: | |
27K miles...right? |
Craig (Beachbum)
Junior Member Username: Beachbum
Post Number: 100 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 7:03 pm: | |
a friend of mine has a 91 348ts white/tan for sale, about 27K, beautiful car, his email is [email protected] |
Michael Wogronic (Michael_fvm)
Junior Member Username: Michael_fvm
Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 5:09 pm: | |
Whart, we currently have your old 328 for sale. Now it has 9600 miles. I agree, it really is a good looking car! |
wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 926 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 4:48 pm: | |
I had a white on red 89 328. I bought it in 99 with 3k miles on it, put another 3k miles on it and got all my money out of it within the same year. Car was originally owned by Frank Beard, the only one in ZZ Top without a, yep, exactly.Of all the ferraris i owned, it was my wife's favorite. I found it tight, and a bit underpowered, but the color was not a problem. |
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
New member Username: Ferraristuff
Post Number: 18 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
Yet another white scale model.... Jack
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David W Burnett Jr (Dbdreams)
Junior Member Username: Dbdreams
Post Number: 57 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 4:34 pm: | |
The white 328 that Jim posted is nice. I like how the targa top has been painted to match the car. It is similar to a red 308 owned by Mike Charness. I think it adds a modern touch to it. |
Amir H. (355spiderman)
Junior Member Username: 355spiderman
Post Number: 86 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:56 pm: | |
White Enzo....but this is a model. |
89TCab (Jmg)
Member Username: Jmg
Post Number: 435 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:46 pm: | |
I like them myself but I have heard several times at dealers that white Ferraris are loved by the first owner and no others...so yes, it does tend to affect the value. |
Lucas Taratus (Karmavore)
Junior Member Username: Karmavore
Post Number: 131 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:13 pm: | |
White is by far my favorite. How many white 355, 360 and 360 Spiders exist in the US, if any? There were a quite a few of the older models in white, but it seems like it's not a popular color anymore. Silver probably took its place. Luke. |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1654 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:13 pm: | |
Damn software...
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Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1653 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 2:10 pm: | |
If I were to sell (and I'm not) I would ask market value for the car. White isn't for everybody, but I don't think it makes it worth less.
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James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 40 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:38 pm: | |
But does the color effect the selling price? White ones seem to sell lower (which can be a good thing if that is the color the buyer wants!) James |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2131 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:31 pm: | |
Red is the BEST interior color for a white or silver Ferrari IMHO. |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3828 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:26 pm: | |
White/Black http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411289535&category=6212 White/Tan Spider http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2411187351&category=6212
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Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 1020 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:25 pm: | |
I like white/red. Reminds me of my dad who died when I was 18. Last cool car he had was a '82 vette white/red. |
Vincent (Vincent348)
New member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 41 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:23 pm: | |
There are two white 348's on ebay right now, not sure about interior colors though. |
James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 39 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:16 pm: | |
White on red isn't that bad, but it depends on the car. I've seen a white/red diablo that was pretty nice. However, the bright interior gets old fast. My car has a black interior with many blue accents in it (steering wheel, ebrake, shifter knob) and it goes very well with the blue stripe theme. A black interior would be my goal for a f-car. 308 is still a very sexy car for it's age! James |
noel smith (Noel)
Junior Member Username: Noel
Post Number: 199 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:14 pm: | |
i agree with jeff |
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
Junior Member Username: Miltonian
Post Number: 236 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:13 pm: | |
White 348: nice! Red Interior: ICK! ICK! ICK! ICK! ICK! |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 3826 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:05 pm: | |
James, Symbolic Motors http://www.symbolicmotors.com has a white 1991 Ferrari 348 TS (310) 652-1300 Ask for Harry Osborne. Stock # 3627 Body Type 2-door Targa Coupe Engine 3.4-liter, fuel-injected, DOHC, 300 bhp V-8 Transmission 5-speed manual Interior Red leather Exterior White Amenities 4-wheel power disc brakes, PS, PL, Sony AM / FM / CD player (a 10-CD changer is in the trunk), AC, toolkit, factory alloy wheels Comment This car looks like it it just came off the assembly line! Mileage 27,650 Warranty NA
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j scott leonard (Jscott)
Member Username: Jscott
Post Number: 348 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 1:03 pm: | |
James: If I make a deal on another F-car today, my 89 white 328 in near perfect condition will be available. Complete major service done less than 1000 miles ago. Contact me if you would be interested. |
James Adams (Madmaxx)
New member Username: Madmaxx
Post Number: 38 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Thursday, April 17, 2003 - 12:59 pm: | |
One of my favorite colors on a car is white, the other is black. I've noticed that not many F-cars come in white, and those that do are priced a good bit lower than the std. racing reds. Is this true for most models in the ferrari line? Does color affect value that heavily? I'd love to find a white 308 or 348. James |