| Author | Message | ||
| Gary Shaw (308930g)
New member Username: 308930g Post Number: 9 Registered: 4-2003 |
Does anybody think that the Daytona, excuse me, I mean the 365 GTB/4 , deserve a vote or two? The Dino is the prettiest. (Let's just say it's a Ferrari and leave it at that) The 308's are the most recognizable. Last years F-1 machines were the greatest of Ferrari's F-1's. 250 GTO, P3 and P4 and the California spyder will always be cars that can stir anybody's soul | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 713 Registered: 5-2002 |
Easy.... The P3/4 And the 250 SWB... | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 272 Registered: 3-2002 |
The most classic Ferrari? Or "the most definitive Ferrari"? I'd have to vote based on your definition of Ferrari... Ferrari "the race team"... the P3 or P4... winning racecars that were absolute works of art. Ferrari "the supercar maker"... the F50... it and the McLaren F1 are the *definitions* of supercars... and both were also works of art. Ferrari "the collectors' car maker"... the 250 GTO... the icon of high appreciation... there may be a few others with higher price tags, but the 250GTO is the most used example... the legend. Ferrari "automotive artists"... the P3/P4... Italian artistry instantiated in automotive form... the most beautiful car ever built... the F50 would be my second place vote here. Ferrari "street sportscar maker"... the GTO (aka 288GTO)... it was the ultimate manifestation of the 308 form... and its the 308 design that has most graced the streets and is undoubtedly the most recognizable Ferrari to the masses. | ||
| Ralph Koslin (Ralfabco)
Junior Member Username: Ralfabco Post Number: 87 Registered: 3-2002 |
Little GTO | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1090 Registered: 10-2002 |
That one would have to go to Audi. The streamliner they made is not to be believed. I saw it at Goodwood. Seeing Hans Stuck drive it up the hill was really something. The smell of the "Black Gasoline" brought back memories of Heuys coming in low after the Phantoms had layed down the Napolam. It's a smell you don't forget... | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1525 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jim, I've heard they're adding a "Best Replicar" class to the awards at next year's Concorso, so no problem.  ***Edit: , just in case you missed the previous one.)*** | ||
| David J. Smith (Darkhorse512)
Junior Member Username: Darkhorse512 Post Number: 211 Registered: 10-2002 |
Racing pedigree and road wortiness says, 250 GTO. After learning about its racing accomplishments that car is like the streetable F2002 of its time. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1089 Registered: 10-2002 |
I'm not sure if Nick comes to US events. He's a very nice guy and really loves cars. I'll look for him at Pebble/Laguna. Next year Pebble is featuring Ferrari we should make it the FCHAT convention! If Wayne lets me I'll bring the P4. Best Jim | ||
| Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
Junior Member Username: Leepierce Post Number: 76 Registered: 1-2003 |
Oh, and thanks for the pic post, Mark. That's what I thought, and that's a great pic. My vote for "most classic" to the general public would also be the 308/328, the most recognizable Ferrari. I don't know about the "most classic" to me; a year ago I was the general public; I didn't even know Ferrari made cars before the 70's. But I was VERY into the later ones. I was in high school in the late 80's, so the Testarossa comes to mind, personally, as the ultimate super Ferrari. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2403 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jim, Does Nick mason come to the US ofetn for events ? I have a friend, Nikolai Sikorsky, Yes that Sikorsky  Who is also a certifiable car nut as well as a classical violinist who I am sure would love to meet Nick to talk about music and cars. Nikolai will probably be at the Greenwich Conours, He�s like an uncle to me and was the person who got me hooked on cars | ||
| Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
Junior Member Username: Leepierce Post Number: 75 Registered: 1-2003 |
William: Thanks for the book mention. I'll pick it up for sure. Hell, I've been a fan of Nick Mason's for years and that was before I was into Ferraris! James: What a story. I never get tired of reading moments like that. Got a BIG kick out of "yeah, but that dirt is from LeMans..." to which some other gearhead responded "uh...do you still have the dirt?" Love this site. | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Junior Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 249 Registered: 5-2002 |
Probably, for the general public the 308 GTS...but for most Ferrari purists, probably the 250 GTO. | ||
| Branko Medenica (Branko)
New member Username: Branko Post Number: 37 Registered: 3-2003 |
The 250 GTO, 288 GTO, and of course the Euro 308 GTS QV | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 85 Registered: 3-2003 |
315 Sport 410 Sport 250 GTO 250LM 288GTO Evolutione I don't think there's an answer to this question. (And maybe that's why no other car makes us so nuts!) | ||
| David Mcguire (Matkat)
New member Username: Matkat Post Number: 8 Registered: 3-2003 |
288 gto f 40 | ||
| Kz (Kzma)
New member Username: Kzma Post Number: 41 Registered: 3-2003 |
my vote goes for the 250 spyder (california).....classic lines, simply gorgeous! | ||
| Tenney (Tenney)
Member Username: Tenney Post Number: 349 Registered: 2-2001 |
250 GTO (neck 'n neck w/SWB). F40'd be my pick of the semi-current cars. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1697 Registered: 7-2001 |
Just reading the title of the thread, my first reaction was 250GTO. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 4580 Registered: 12-2000 |
Part of the registry I'm building will have a model list with pictures and other information. | ||
| Jeffrey Davison (Jeffdavison)
Junior Member Username: Jeffdavison Post Number: 97 Registered: 7-2002 |
Easy!!!! The FIRST one! Jeff Davison | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1066 Registered: 10-2002 |
Nick and his family all use and enjoy their cars. In 2000 he and I were at the Goodwood Festival of Speed. We were running in the same group. He was driving his F1 (312?) His wife was driving their GTO, Dan Gurney was driving a Eagle F1, David Piper was driving his P4, Nicky Lauda was driving a Ford GT MK-I, and I was driving my MK-IV. We were all at the top of the hill, waiting after our run for the course to clear so we could drive back down to the pits. Nick looked out at the field of cars, turned to me and said: "Pretty special..." | ||
| J Michael Jordan (Fonce_r_cheval)
Junior Member Username: Fonce_r_cheval Post Number: 60 Registered: 11-2002 |
All-time most beautiful ever, never to be out done: P4 Last really classic, imbodying the spirit of the marque as set down by Mr. ferrari himself: 250 GTO And on the third step of the podium: 250 Cal Spyder. My 2 Lira. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 963 Registered: 12-2001 |
Lee- you might want to buy "At the Limit," a text and photo essay involving numerous (21?) of Mason's cars, driven on the track, with commentary by a race car driver, and some nice pics.Not all ferraris, but some awful nice cars. I'll think about my choice; picking one is tough. I agree that "classic" connotes one which embodies all the virtues, and epitomizes the marque. I too, am partial to the LWB Cal. Spyder with covered lites, but its certainly not the ultimate in performance. And, although it may be sacrilege, there are aspects of the 250 SWB that appeal to me more than the 250 GTO, since it carries over the semi-bulbous look of the Cistalia and the early post war european sports coupes, but is aggressive in an old fashioned way. Hmmmmm... | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 186 Registered: 7-2002 |
Nick Mason's GTO  | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2365 Registered: 2-2001 |
Yes nick Mason has a nice 250GTO has a BBLM also & a Big Mac F1 & a bunch of other nice toys Rob how about a photo library of models so people can learn more about Ferraris ? | ||
| Lee Pierce (Leepierce)
Junior Member Username: Leepierce Post Number: 74 Registered: 1-2003 |
Can someone please post a nice pic of this much-touted 250 GTO? I think I know the car in question, but not quite sure. Doesn't Nick Mason from Pink Floyd own one that he actually drives at track events? | ||
| Kirk Stevenson (Miuraguy)
New member Username: Miuraguy Post Number: 11 Registered: 5-2002 |
250 GT California Spyder covered headlights. It's topless perfection! | ||
| Russ Turner (Snj5)
Junior Member Username: Snj5 Post Number: 111 Registered: 2-2003 |
250 GTO series 1 is the Ferrari. Period. A Niki Lauda 312 will also define a Ferrari F1 for me (age showing). Ultimate street Ferrari 365 GTS/4 Must also admit the P4 and memories of Daytona weigh strongly. This is a no lose topic - everybody's a winner. | ||
| Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member Username: Drstranglove Post Number: 87 Registered: 4-2003 |
The one that I happen to have when ever anyone asks this question. (duh) DrS | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1168 Registered: 4-2002 |
The only reason Matt likes the 308GTS is because of his collection of Hawaiian shirts. | ||
| "The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus Post Number: 4167 Registered: 8-2002 |
308 GTS 246 Dino | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 4575 Registered: 12-2000 |
Sorry to cop out of this one, but the first ones that come to my mind are... 250 TdF/SWB/GTO 250 TR 250 GT/L 275 GTB Comp P3/P4/512 288 GTO (dare I say one of the most attractive Ferraris modern or not) | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4436 Registered: 5-2001 |
As a classic driver: 1948 166MM As a collector: 1952 500F2 As a daily driver: Testarossa As a modern collector: 2003 F1 | ||
| Ken Ghiringhelli (Kenny94945)
New member Username: Kenny94945 Post Number: 50 Registered: 12-2002 |
Yes, pontooned Testarossa. That could be the classic/ classic. Another opinion, if I may say, would be a Ferrari from the late 1950 to early 1960 with 12 cylinders and roll up windows. Chrome trim and bumpers, heater. No A/C; no radio. Dare I write...an actual transportation vehicle (car) that could be driven in the rain and nice enough to go to a prom all dressed in white. A classic. | ||
| Drew Altemara (Drewa)
Junior Member Username: Drewa Post Number: 130 Registered: 2-2002 |
275GTB or Daytona | ||
| Wade Nunez(FortuneMotors) (308nut)
Junior Member Username: 308nut Post Number: 191 Registered: 7-2002 |
250 GT Lusso 288 GTO and of course the 308 QV Wade | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1163 Registered: 4-2002 |
Yeah, yeah. I forgot. 308GT4 RULES!!! | ||
| Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member Username: Owens84qv Post Number: 762 Registered: 10-2001 |
250SWB...man that car is sexy!...followed closely by the California Spyder. | ||
| Dom Vitarella (Dom)
Junior Member Username: Dom Post Number: 145 Registered: 11-2002 |
Hans, I think you meant the 308 GT4... and second after that is the 250 GTO | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1161 Registered: 4-2002 |
CA Spider. Nuf said. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2360 Registered: 2-2001 |
my personal faves are the P4, pontoon TR, 250GTO series 2 , 335 Sport, & 512M and of course the mighty 512TR | ||
| GThomas (Ferrariartist)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariartist Post Number: 104 Registered: 2-2003 |
one more vote the 250 GTO GTO oops GT | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1499 Registered: 8-2002 |
"This paved the way for Ferrari to become the sports car "superpower" of the world." Sorry, but that credit goes to the 250 series cars. The 308 actually appeared at a low point in Ferrari's road car history and honestly didn't represent very well against the competition. In my opinion, the 250 TdF, SWB, and GTO probably best represent the spirit of Ferrari and the blurring of the line between road and competition cars. | ||
| EFWUN (Efwun)
Member Username: Efwun Post Number: 587 Registered: 2-2003 |
Ah, maybe 250GTO Series II, perhaps Mr. G's P4, not sure!! | ||
| Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member Username: Questioner Post Number: 458 Registered: 1-2003 |
1957-58 250 TR. Gotta love the look and the sound. | ||
| Mark Collins (Markcollins)
Junior Member Username: Markcollins Post Number: 183 Registered: 7-2002 |
I'm with James, P3/P4 | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 1267 Registered: 1-2002 |
Original pontoon Testa Rossa. Otherworldly exotic looks, sound, sex appeal, mystique, and value. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1061 Registered: 10-2002 |
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| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 149 Registered: 4-2003 |
stirring, stirring, stirring..... Hahahahaha! | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Junior Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 247 Registered: 10-2002 |
I vote for the 275 GTB-4. Looks, sounds, performance, 12 cylinders. And it is "somewhat" available (unlike the 250GTO)...there is NO WAY to improve that car, it's perfect! Okay, let's stir the pot some more..... | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2356 Registered: 2-2001 |
Well the 308 is certainly a strong candidate for most recognizable Ferrari and the TV show Magnum did a lot for Ferrari's world image. So in that sense a 308 could be called a classic. But a true classic Ferrari must have won many races & maybe a world championship or 2. The 250GTO dominated international sports car racing for at least 2 years I believe and its also 1 of the most expensive cars ever sold at auction. Back in the early 90s a Japanese businessman paid $16M for a 250 GTO | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 148 Registered: 4-2003 |
250 SWB closely followed by the 250 GT/L(usso) | ||
| Steve Magnusson (91tr)
Intermediate Member Username: 91tr Post Number: 1711 Registered: 1-2001 |
I sure wouldn't mind having that 410SA featured in the latest FORZA -- truly "classic" IMO (although I guess it would actually belong to my "empress"  ) | ||
| ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member Username: Ross Post Number: 1104 Registered: 3-2002 |
a bit thin skinned are we? collin, don't take offense, everybody will have very definite ideas about the question you raised. imho, 250gto is the classic of all time. now if you want most recognized by the non cognoscenti, then 3x8 and tr's are the best bet. | ||
| Collin Hays (Chaysintexas)
Junior Member Username: Chaysintexas Post Number: 93 Registered: 4-2002 |
Please just forget the question...I don't want to get barbequed by every pompous a** on the board. | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Intermediate Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2355 Registered: 2-2001 |
250GTO is THE Ferrari when Ferrari people speak of the marque. 308 is more a classic amongst people who are not up on Ferrai history. 308 is a beautiful car but it lacks the history & cutting edge tech & performance of real classics like the 250GTO, 250SWBGT, 330P4 etc | ||
| Collin Hays (Chaysintexas)
Junior Member Username: Chaysintexas Post Number: 92 Registered: 4-2002 |
Well, excuse me...and my opinion, too! | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2169 Registered: 9-2001 |
Collin, "classic" has nothing to do with most easily recognized. Further, no V8 Ferrari, sic, will ever be thought of as a "classic" IMHO. The 250 and 275 are the most likely canidates. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 3584 Registered: 8-2002 |
How are we defining "classic"...? i don't mean to Clintonize your question, i just want a more accurate feeling of what you mean, before i go blurting out the first car that comes to mind... | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Junior Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 102 Registered: 1-2003 |
The F-50 and a close second 250 GTO!! | ||
| Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon Post Number: 75 Registered: 4-2002 |
No Question; 250 GTO | ||
| Collin Hays (Chaysintexas)
Junior Member Username: Chaysintexas Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2002 |
My vote: The 308 GTS. Reason: While it is one of the least expensive, it is also the most easily recognized Ferrari of all time, and really brought Ferrari to the forefront (Magnum PI, Miami Vice, Cristi Brinkley, etc.) in the public's mind. This paved the way for Ferrari to become the sports car "superpower" of the world. Your vote? |