| Author | Message | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 337 Registered: 10-2002 |
Agreed with Verell--I very much feel like I get less attention from the local constabulary. (And, probably less attention in general, but the car gets more than I can handle as it is!). I do think that the brown can be harder to see in general, especially out here in New Mexico, where things tend to be one shade or another of, ah, brown. In fact, just last month, I was just cruising, and a big Ford F-250 almost gave me the good old-fashioned T-bone as he turned left onto the main two-lane road I was cruising down. He just didn't see me--I had to swerve, ended up on the shoulder, it was OK. Would definitely not choose this color for a motorcycle!  Probably the best treatment of the multiple colors of 308s comes from ferrari308.com, done by a great guy named Paul. He's got a section called "more than Red," here: http://www.ferrari308.com/ (Choose "More than Red" from the navigation on the left)... http://www.ferrari308.com/colors/ Funny, the actual example he uses for Marrone is my very car, at Ferrari of Central Florida, taken before I even had looked at it! I really like these cars in a strong blue, too. I think Metallic paint makes a huge difference as well--this was an option on these cars. | ||
| Verell Boaen (Verell)
Member Username: Verell Post Number: 686 Registered: 5-2001 |
I agree, Titanium & Marrone really look nice on the car. Also, unlike my cars Russo Corsa they're NOT 'arrestme...' colors. | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 104 Registered: 3-2003 |
Hey Mike, its me Tutte(u)benne ;) I have to agree the color looks great. As mentioned previously, the lighter metallic colors bring out the lines of the car much more effectively. There are very few colors that don't look good in my opinion. | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 336 Registered: 10-2002 |
P.S. -- A recent autocross:    | ||
| Mike Procopio (Pupz308)
Member Username: Pupz308 Post Number: 333 Registered: 10-2002 |
You'd be surprised how the brown grows on you--I never thought it would, but it has. Today, in the bright sun, it was like gold. The car stood out from every other car in the lot (granted, it is an f-car). Anka, welcome. I'll never forget the wisdom found in your very first post. | ||
| Gary Shaw (308930g)
New member Username: 308930g Post Number: 16 Registered: 4-2003 |
Bonjourno Anka, I would definitely take the 360. I'm w/ you 100% when it comes to engineered/designed cars vs. styled. That's why I'd take a Berlinetta Boxer over a Daytona. Nothing against the mighty Daytona. Many would say the Daytona is prettier, but I love the BB's look of engineered and designed performance. Hell, just drive one. Forget about luggage space.. On my 930, I replaced the original KKK 3LDZ factory turbo w/ a KKK K-27 7006. It spools up alot earlier and still pulls to redline. I put a stiffer spring in the wastegate and bolted on a larger intercooler. The muffler was swapped for a Stainless B&B. What a difference! 300 to 375 hp. When you talk about the true test being on the track, I couldn't agree more. You have to love a car that comes w/ huge cross-grilled rotors and 4 piston calipers. I drove around Watkins Glen for 2 days of DE. Hitting the brakes at 140mph. Not one ounce of fade. Never. The Italians do have the edge in emotional response. Absolutely. If you go to a "euro" car show, watch the crowd. If there's a Dino or Daytona, the group will surround it. More than a German car. I love new technology, i.e. F-1, but for some reason, driving the older rawer cars is a hoot. They're also quite simple to work on, as I enjoy that too. The direct connection between driver and machine is very alluring. Lowering the 930 took about 30 minutes of adjustment. Simple! It only enhances the driving experience. Now, which car?? I have a great euro 930. I have a great modified (but it's not easy to tell it's modified)308 GTS. I still am searching for a BB. After that, how about a 360!! | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
New member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 4 Registered: 4-2003 |
Gary, Well, to answer your question, I really like the shapes that are actually �engineered style� - aerodynamically optimized shapes - but I�m into that kind of stuff. I�m not about to go into the history/theory of race car aerodynamics but I guess I have a more practical approach to auto design. For instance, the Countach is an aesthetically cool, one of a kind, never mistaken for anything else car, but engineering wise it�s got a hugely complex space frame and not to mention with it�s 0.42 drag coefficient could pass for a brick or for that matter a Trabant. Now the 360 is sexy as hell, 0.32 coefficient of drag, has under body diffusers, variable exhaust and •••• loads of horsepower/litre and the handing is second to none, to name a few. Which one would you chose? I like hi-tech, but something like an older, �raw�, four speed Porsche 930 with mechanical fuel injection has excellent throttle response and handling despite its huge turbo lag. For me a true test of a sportscar is how it performs on track - Porsche has been consistently good at that over the years and nobody can dispute that. The P-car is the Germans' take on a supercar with superb on-and-off track durability. With today�s Ferrari�s technology being quite sophisticated, they still take care of image/sound but not so much reliability - at this point it comes down to personal preferences. And in terms of emotional response, the Italians have that hands down! Having said all of that, having to choose between a Porsche 935 and a Ferrari 360 would be like �Sophie�s choice� On a general note, I do realize that mentioning the word Porsche on a Ferrarichat will get me in some kind of hot water but as I see it, being a car lover is not exclusive to the Ferrari. I�m here to chat, learn and occasionally offer my input to fellow chatter if they�ll have it. Cheers! | ||
| Gary Shaw (308930g)
New member Username: 308930g Post Number: 13 Registered: 4-2003 |
Alrighty Anka. What exactly are your tastes in design and engineering? Hmmm? I myself prefer the BB's and the 308's. I am actively in the hunt for a 365/512 BB. "Carbs are good, carbs are our friend" I know what you mean about not liking every horse from the stable.....In terms of design and engineering, I do prefer those aircooled turbocharged cars w/ the engine way in the back. One of them sits next to my F-car and they get along great! | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 80 Registered: 11-2002 |
I like it! However... seeing it sold for 29K or less, and the bid is already over 30K (shil bid possible due to private auction) and no history... MM | ||
| Dave Penhale (Dapper)
Member Username: Dapper Post Number: 635 Registered: 4-2002 |
I actually quite like the colour, my issue is more with the interior leather colour and even more so the carpet colour. The condition overall is hard to tell from pictures, but on the basis of just them to go on, it looks nice enough for a closer look, in truth, if my 348 searching experience is typical its condition probably puts hundreds of 'red' F cars out there to shame! I guess buyers issues are more concerned about the 'no history' bit. Can't have it both ways, the F community is often bitchin about history being everything, then its hardly a suprise when a car with no documented is valued v'low! | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
New member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 3 Registered: 4-2003 |
Oh Gary, come down. It's all in good fun. You know, everybody has their preferences and as it turns out I'm not the biggest fans of the 308-so what? I realize that the 308/328 have a following, it is after all one of the most affordable Ferraris not to mention a lot of people do like the overall design and the "drive", I on the other hand have a different taste in design/engineering � no big deal. After all, just because one is a Ferrari fan doesn't mean one will like every horse that comes out of the stable. Cheers! | ||
| Gary Shaw (308930g)
New member Username: 308930g Post Number: 10 Registered: 4-2003 |
There are alot of great Ferrari's in non red. Some colors bring out the contours more than others. My all original 308 GTS is in verde pino metallic, w/ all black interior. I was more enamored w/ the perf. upgrades that the great Bob Wallace had installed. The 308 racing parts of the late 70's. Hotter cams, pistons, single distributor, elec. ignition, exhaust etc. A 300hp 308 that I also removed 200lbs from. Now, I love the color. Most people have never even considered a Ferrari in anything but rosso corsa. I believe the first Ferrari's were actually barchetta red, the darker blood red color. The verde color helped to contribute to a lower purchasing price! Don't ever be suprised at how resale red can affect a price. Hey Anka, why are you taking cheap shots against the 308? They only sold 12,000 of them. W/ a few mods, they fly. W/O, they're still fun. I suppose the 365 or 512 BB's styling, which obviously affected the 308's (they were all designed by the same person)are lousy predecessors too... | ||
| Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member Username: Jordan747_400 Post Number: 812 Registered: 12-2002 |
Ive seen worse. Id take the 328 in a heart beat. Seems to be a reasonable price considering it has no records and is an off color...extreme off color at that. Still just as much fun as a rosso corsa 328 Ill bet! | ||
| Mike Dawson (Miked)
Junior Member Username: Miked Post Number: 92 Registered: 2-2001 |
opps, file too big   | ||
| Mike Dawson (Miked)
Junior Member Username: Miked Post Number: 91 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think that marrone is a great color, one that really brings out the lines of a car. The pewter color on new Corvettes has the same effect. IMHO it works better on a GTB, the GTS's black side window grilles overpower the color somewhat. Here are a few examples of Marrone or similar cars that I have saved over the years (sorry, the 308 GTB is a damaged file).  | ||
| Mike Dawson (Miked)
Junior Member Username: Miked Post Number: 90 Registered: 2-2001 |
I think that marrone is a great color, one that really brings out the lines of a car. The pewter color on new Corvettes has the same effect. IMHO it works better on a GTB, the GTS's black side window grilles overpower the color somewhat. Here are a few examples of Marrone or similar cars that I have saved over the years (sorry, the 308 GTB is a damaged file). | ||
| David P. Smith (Dave330gtc)
Junior Member Username: Dave330gtc Post Number: 102 Registered: 3-2002 |
I think the color is very attractive on this car and is a nice change from the red that we see on almost all the V-8 cars. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart Post Number: 977 Registered: 12-2001 |
That color would look quite handsome with a black leather interior. It may not be my first choice, but its not as bad as you make it sound. I know that the "gotta have red" thing gets tiresome, and there is some funkiness to the less typical colors. Take a look at the lwb cal spyder on motor classic's site. its a metallic green-blue that shows up quite well in person. | ||
| Sunny Garofalo (Jaguarxj6)
Member Username: Jaguarxj6 Post Number: 377 Registered: 2-2003 |
I like it, second only to the blue one posted a couple days ago! I like it even more for the fact it isn't red. Sunny | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 224 Registered: 8-2002 |
wasn't there a law suit awhile back in california brought by a group of 280z owners. i believe it was brought in response to a law that was passed that outlawed brown vehicles as they posed a safety danger in that they were harder to see. i never heard the outcome, i remember reading about it autoweek. | ||
| Ken Ross (Kdross)
Member Username: Kdross Post Number: 327 Registered: 2-2002 |
Hey DES: If you sell your Saturn and get your insurance under control, you could swing this car. Show up with a check for $27K and this car would be yours. The montly payments would probably be equal to your currently monthly insurance payments. At a purchase price of $27K and a $2K down payment at 8% your monthly payment would be $506.91. Insurance for a normal person in NJ over 25 yrs would be about $2K if it were your only car. Then you drive the car until the wheel fall off in 20 years. | ||
| Anka (Mechanka)
New member Username: Mechanka Post Number: 1 Registered: 4-2003 |
If I had it my way, there would be a law prohibiting the use of brown, or for that matter, any resemblance to the brown pigment on cars. It sure doesn�t help the 328�s cause � it�s bad enough that the 308 is it�s predecessor | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Junior Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 247 Registered: 4-2003 |
I LOVE that color! Jack | ||
| Ron Shirley (Easy_rider)
Member Username: Easy_rider Post Number: 433 Registered: 12-2002 |
As Terry's 2nd link indicates there was a "buy it now" price of $29,900 at Car Trader Online. Not sure if you could still get it for that or not. DES, here is your chance. Possibly a quality car at a great price. | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 279 Registered: 2-2001 |
It has not met reserve at the sub-$30k current price. The ad states a "buy it now" of $36,900. I figure his reserve is within $1000 of that. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 1155 Registered: 7-2002 |
was for sale months ago for $29,900. Had no records etc. These guys bought it and I think hoped to turn it for a $5K profit and can't sell it. It was on traderonline.com with the old and new sellers at the same time with 2 prices. | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 223 Registered: 8-2002 |
i believe the color is marrone, a metallic brown. it was more commonly used on late 60's and early 70's era cars. this is the first 328 i have seen in this color. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 3697 Registered: 8-2002 |
What is that, brown...? Very weird-looking... Still, i'd take it in a heart beat... | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 325 Registered: 9-2001 |
This is the best example, I have seen of a cars value being severly affected by the color combo. This car has been for sale it seems for a very long time, and now the asking price it under $30k for a 30k mile 328 GTS! http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=2412744699&category=6212 http://adcache.collectorcartraderonline.com/10/4/2/45995542.htm |