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P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic
Post Number: 140 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:37 am: | |
p8ge, good point sounds as if the higher bidder got a car before you. |
p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge
Post Number: 12 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:35 am: | |
Jere, I hear you loud and clear but what pisses me off is that they just sold a 03 spider to a friend of mine at a premium and he only waited one month. |
p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge
Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:32 am: | |
Steve, Sorry for not being clear regarding the part issue. Frank hit it right on the money. Frank, As far as the warranty, the parts they are using goes on their challenge cars and it is OEM parts but at 50% discount |
Kevin Butler (Challenge)
Junior Member Username: Challenge
Post Number: 142 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:21 am: | |
"The dealer can only give you an approximation because the production schedules change with no warning. I know of one store that should have received 12 cars for the first four months of the year and through the end of April they had only received 7. That puts them 5 behind what they were expecting. " Makes perfect sense. But since it is the dealer's JOB to work with the factory, they should know not to promise a June delivery date. They should have given an approximate delivery date, but in this case there was a motive to give the "pie in sky" scenario. |
Jere Dunham (Questioner)
Member Username: Questioner
Post Number: 531 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 11:05 am: | |
This is what I know about the distribution of cars from Ferrari to the dealers. The dealer can only give you an approximation because the production schedules change with no warning. I know of one store that should have received 12 cars for the first four months of the year and through the end of April they had only received 7. That puts them 5 behind what they were expecting. Sometimes it is out of the dealers hands on when they will receive the cars. I do not believe any of the dealers I know actually count anything for sure until Horseless Carriage drops the car off at the dealership. Ferrari is Ferrari and even the dealers do not know sometimes what is actually happening about production. It is not the way things should be but if you have been around Ferraris very long, you will know that is the way the Italian factory works. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2228 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:38 am: | |
P8ge, that dealer is taking a risk getting parts from other than FNA approved sources. If that part later breaks or is defective, is the dealer going to warrant it themselves ? Because if the dealer looks to FNA for a problem with a part it got elsewhere I suspect FNA will not be too happy. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2227 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:34 am: | |
Steve, I think what he means is that he got the parts elsewhere for less than the dealer could get them from their sole supplier FNA. |
Steve Ahlgrim (Italycars)
New member Username: Italycars
Post Number: 5 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:25 am: | |
Where's the missing pieces? "A month ago they approached me again to get them parts for their cars at discount which they could only get thru FNA. I got them the parts they needed and saved them over $10K on one order alone." Why would your dealer need you to get them parts from their distributor? What was their reason for the car being late? What's the rest of the story?
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P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic
Post Number: 136 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:24 am: | |
LOL, I guess it depends on which end you are on. LOL |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2226 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:22 am: | |
Just when did "being screwed" become something bad. I know I have always enjoyed it! ha ha |
RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90
Post Number: 177 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 10:14 am: | |
What a-holes. Just take what you can from them and walk away. |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 4362 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 8:47 am: | |
Ferrari does not allow NEW cars to be sold over MSRP from authorized dealers
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John Delvac (Johndelvac)
Member Username: Johndelvac
Post Number: 346 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 8:44 am: | |
I'm pretty sure all new Ferraris in North America sell at MSRP (or less). I heard it was a mandate from FNA. I've been wrong before, but I know this is what Ferrari of Atlanta does. |
ross koller (Ross)
Intermediate Member Username: Ross
Post Number: 1138 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 4:20 am: | |
welcome to the party. it won't b the first nor the last time.....take art's advice and nail them down on something before any more money leaves your wallet. |
Tim Barnett (Tim_barnett)
New member Username: Tim_barnett
Post Number: 6 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 1:05 am: | |
"Sounds like it... Without lube." Or a friendly reach around... |
Tim Barnett (Tim_barnett)
New member Username: Tim_barnett
Post Number: 5 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 1:00 am: | |
A promise is a promise. They should live up to their end. It's really a question of personal ethics. Some people only "do the right thing" when it's easy or convenient. A true test of ethics comes when faced with a painful or difficult decision. |
"The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless
Post Number: 63 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:13 am: | |
If they can really get you a spider for September, you are getting good treatment, the cars still have a waiting list of years and the dealers ability to predict delivery dates is very limited. The cars still sell way over sticker despite what people wish the prices to be. |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Junior Member Username: Drstranglove
Post Number: 167 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 02, 2003 - 12:00 am: | |
Sadly, any "promise" you do not have in writing is not worth anything. However, if you had a recording of an official telling you this, that is a different story indeed!!!!! DrS |
P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic
Post Number: 132 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 10:50 pm: | |
Sounds like it... Without lube. |
billy bob (Fatbillybob)
Member Username: Fatbillybob
Post Number: 257 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 8:36 pm: | |
This screwing is only the begining. |
arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355
Post Number: 1486 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 7:37 pm: | |
I'd make them repeat their promise in writing. Let them know that they don't get to do this again, i.e., if they don't deliver in September you'll deal with this issue with them. Art |
Vince (Manatee)
Junior Member Username: Manatee
Post Number: 210 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 7:36 pm: | |
Before June? That's just a few weeks away. Perhaps they thought someone was going to back out of their order that was arriving soon. If you are looking at September then you can probably spec the car exactly the way you want it. I'd wait 'til Sept and get the car I spec'd out for sticker. Waiting only a few months is a lot less time than some other folks have waited. |
wm hart (Whart)
Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 998 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 7:14 pm: | |
Take the car at sticker when you get it; i don't think you'll get hurt. |
p8ge (P8ge)
New member Username: P8ge
Post Number: 10 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 01, 2003 - 7:02 pm: | |
For the past two years i have been approached by my local ferrari dealer to become a sponsor for their challenge race cars. I finally agreed to become a sponsor this year which cost me $10K. I was also promised in return they will take care of their sponsors and would get me a spider befor june. A month ago they approached me again to get them parts for their cars at discount which they could only get thru FNA. I got them the parts they needed and saved them over $10K on one order alone. Today i asked them when i can expect the spider and was told that it would not be before September and that they could not do anything. What would you guys do? would you just tell them to go F--- themselves? |