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Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 90 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 1:03 pm: | |
Tom: I have a 1996 355B red/tan which has about 15,700 miles. It will be on consignment at Shelton in Ft. Lauderdale where I am leaving it later this week to pick up a 550. It has the Tubi, Challenge Grill, Test Pipes from Tubi, AutoThority ECU and 15k service done 18 months ago. I gave another FCHAT user first Dibs but he is also looking at another car. If he decides on the other car you might be interested in mine. On a scale from 1-10 I would honestly give it a 9.5. No paintwork whatsoever. If you are interested call Bud Root at Shelton at 954-493-5211. Good luck in the search. Mark Moon |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1054 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 6:16 am: | |
while there's no hardfast rule about "time -vs- mileage" on the 355s, the conventional wisdom is that the first engine-out belts service is due at five years if you don't hit the mileage mark before then. entropy happens (tm). belts can fail over time without much use - you obviously don't want this to happen. some people go 10 years or more (3x8s, etc.)without a problem. some have had their belts fail after four years apparently. so you pays your money and you takes your chances. the 575 service manual now includes specific conversions for mileage -vs- time (not sure any other car has had this previously), and while the mechanics suggest five years for belts, the factory manual apparently suggests three years, which most shops seem to think is excessive. doody. |
Tom Lassen (Nzo4re)
New member Username: Nzo4re
Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 6:03 am: | |
Folks, I've been in a frantic search for a 355 (driving season's here and I have no F-car...Yikes!) and have found the pickins slim indeed. A good car to me has less than 15k miles, has had a belt service, is a 1 or 2 owner car and has no blemishes. A Tubi would be a nice bonus. Max price is $85k. Does anybody know where my car is? |
Chris Burch (Cyb)
New member Username: Cyb
Post Number: 19 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 4:59 am: | |
Why are so many 355's that are advertised lately already had their cambelt service? Isn't it an "I" at 15k and an "R" at 30k in the service manuel? We are not at the 10 yr. mark yet either. Last week I sold my '98 F1 355 GTS, Yellow/Black, 9.9k mi. car, and the subject never came up. |
Jonathan Garrett Donner (Jgd)
New member Username: Jgd
Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Sunday, May 11, 2003 - 2:34 am: | |
My 97 F355B is for sale, 24k miles, Silver/Black,Tubi, Exhaust Manifolds replaced, New Clutch, Brigdgestone SO'2s, H&R 44mm Spacers all around, Wheels powder coated satin black,Aligned and Corner Balanced, Upgraded Stereo, Harness Bar. $90k ( I am selling to buy a 360) If anyone is interested please email [email protected] |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 329 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 1:25 pm: | |
martin, so that's to my point...that a clean 95 GTB with 15K miles and 30K mile service recently completed will probably go mid to high eighties at an authorized dealer, no? |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4548 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 1:00 pm: | |
Jeff, unfortunately that example does not work quite that good. Take the 7K off and you have at best $5K more. The 30K service is $4500 and since you have another 2 years on my car you can only add $ 2500 value, so the dealer 7K-less car should be priced $ 7000 higher than mine. I am selling today for $ 75,000 so they shoudl sell for $ 82K. No way you will find that car for this price at a F-dealer.
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Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 89 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:07 am: | |
Scott: Thought you would want to know that my deal with the other gentleman fell through(financing issues). I have another offer higher than yours was but given all that has happened I will sell it to you for what we discussed. I am taking the car to Shelton next Thursday and will leave it there for them to sell for me if you are no longer interested. If you are interested they could do the PPI you requested. Either way, I thought you would want to know. Good luck in your search. |
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe
Post Number: 2278 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:06 am: | |
Rosso Barchetta may be a hard color to move, I don't know. But, it is the original Ferarri red of the 1950s and 1960s. I wish my Boxer was that color. |
Jeff (Jeff_m)
Junior Member Username: Jeff_m
Post Number: 123 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 11:04 am: | |
I think the color rossa barchetta explains the 75k. No offense, but not an easy color to move. |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 328 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 10:13 am: | |
take martin's yellow example, take 7,000 miles off, throw in a 30,000 mile service, and buy it from an authorized dealer....then what is fair price? |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1049 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:47 am: | |
hey - don't shoot the messengers! as the owner of a 355, i surely don't want to see prices drop, and get no joy out of the fact that they've been falling. but they do seem to be on the downswing for sure. maybe it'll correct. who knows. doody. |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 1198 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:38 am: | |
The 75K one was here in Dallas at Clay Cooley Motorcars I think. It was a 95 with 27K miles rossa barchetta/tan 355B. Sold to a guy in Austin. Not sure on recent services it had. Saw car and it looked great. |
Scott DeGhetto (Scott63)
New member Username: Scott63
Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:33 am: | |
Rob, I would like to know where you can get a 97 or 98 355 that has been well maintained and has low mileage for $75K... I have been looking to buy for two months and have been to many dealers (and private owners)and looked at a number of cars. The lowest priced 355B I saw was very firm at $78K. It was a 95 with 16K miles and a recent belt service. Most 97's Berlinetta's I have looked at have been in the high 80's to low 90's. Please point me in the right direction!!!!!!! |
Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts
Post Number: 4546 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 8:22 am: | |
I actually bought a 1995 F355 Berlinetta yesterday. Yellow/black 21K Miles, very nice car. Has an issue with leather shrinkage on the far dash which can be fixed though, otherwise prestine, no road rash, no scruffs on the rims. $ 79,500 will be asking on the website. Will sell to F-chatters for less. e-mail me if you are interested: [email protected]
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Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 1196 Registered: 7-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 6:58 am: | |
yes that one for $75K, Martin has one for $82K, Jonathan says $84K. I looked on traderonline and there are 1 or maybe 2 pages for every model, but the 355 has 4 pages. Too many of them out there. Some have asking prices of $125K..no way they will sell at least not to anyone who knows anything. I don't think Ricky got a bad deal. He bought a year ago so economy was diff and his car was a year newer and it was from a dealer. At the time he got it I thought $91K was a great price. Still isn't bad. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4809 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:40 am: | |
Low 80's? A pristine '97 or '98 with a Norwood PPI sold to a FerrariChat.com user for $75k. I and several other FC users saw the car in person. |
Jim Conforti (Lndshrk)
Junior Member Username: Lndshrk
Post Number: 68 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:35 am: | |
Ricky, There are clean 95 b's that have sold recently FROM AUTHORIZED DEALERS.. WITH Ferrari 1 year warranties for the low 80's asking price. The market on 355's is exceptionally soft and is going to get softer.
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Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2976 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 09, 2003 - 12:25 am: | |
i think it was something about some people being born evey minute... |
Mike B (Srt_mike)
Junior Member Username: Srt_mike
Post Number: 182 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 11:47 pm: | |
Didn't PT Barnum have something to say on these matters? |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 327 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 11:12 pm: | |
making markets is all about bids, offers, and that space in between! :-) |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 4804 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 10:52 pm: | |
Ricky, that's the high end of the current market to put it nicely. |
Ricky Nardis (Rickyn_f355)
Member Username: Rickyn_f355
Post Number: 322 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:29 pm: | |
i actually think it's a fair price...my buddy just picked up a 96 GTB w/ 7000 miles for $94K from an authorized dealer. |
P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Junior Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic
Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 7:51 pm: | |
The 97K really seems wishful in today's market. But hey, I do not want to screw up someone's deal. You can e-mail though if you want specifics (just went through this drill, took 4 months of searching to bring to fruition, but got a great pulse on the market). |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1046 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 6:39 pm: | |
i dealt with FoA on my 550 search. they were pretty good guys IME. they had at the time a number of cars priced way too high. i asked them about it flat-out and they said those cars are consignment vehicles. they do what they can for their good customers, but they don't get to set the asking prices. ALWAYS ask up-front whether the car is the dealer's or whether it's on consignment. the latter are annoying to deal with IME. doody. |
Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88
Post Number: 2961 Registered: 6-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 5:08 pm: | |
TWA, so what would you say the car would go for? All the classifieds i see have rather high prices, and i doubt any of the cars actually go for that much. I'm wondering what these guys are thinking http://www.ferrariofatlanta.com/cgi-bin/listings.pl?displaykey&05 |
TWA (Exoticars)
Junior Member Username: Exoticars
Post Number: 101 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:54 pm: | |
Also very interested in your car and am an im mediate buyer. However, Doody is correct that 97 spiders are going for much less then 97k, nevermind the GTS. I sent you an e-mail. |
A.Tonokaboni (Senna1994)
Junior Member Username: Senna1994
Post Number: 104 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:46 pm: | |
Ciccio, don't worry if it is a clean car with records you will find the right buyer as some people prefer the GTS to the Spyder. Just watch out for the Curb Hoppers and E-Bay Bottom Feeders. |
Robin Overcash (Robin)
Junior Member Username: Robin
Post Number: 65 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:30 pm: | |
That's actually the exact car I'm looking for. I'm still 5-6 months away though. Dang. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody
Post Number: 1045 Registered: 11-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 1:55 pm: | |
you should put an ad in FerrariAds. unfortunately, you'd be hard pressed to get $97K for a 13K miles 1997 355 Spider in this market. doody. |
Ciccio (Ciccio)
New member Username: Ciccio
Post Number: 29 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 12:56 pm: | |
Hello All, I have a 1997 355 GTS for sale, Yellow,Black with 6 speed. This is a two owner Florida car with 12,700 miles. Car is located on Long Island, New York. Have Car-Fax Asking $97,000 If you are interested please E-Mail [email protected], or call 516 637-9898 Regards, Anthony |