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Chris F. (Dallasguy)
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Username: Dallasguy

Post Number: 123
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 8:24 pm:   

There is a fellow Fchatter that lives in my building who has a 512TR and the 250GT (not to mention the Jag XJR and the Porsche). No way the value of the apartment comes close to that.
Tyler (Bahiaau)
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Username: Bahiaau

Post Number: 723
Registered: 12-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 7:47 pm:   

Yes, I know several people in this situation. But I don't know anybody who is in financial peril by living this way.

1st person: A person in a friends apartment complex with a 355 berlinetta.

2nd person: one of my closest friends with a $200,000 house and maybe a $250,000 car collection(no f-cars). I'm not too worried though, he has millions.

3rd person: The wealthiest man I've ever met. Lives in a million dollar house with maybe 50 million in art in it(not cars, sorry). Ironically, he has no interest in F-cars. He drives an E55 and his wife a CL55.

Frank, while I wholeheartedly agree that real estate can be a wonderful investment, I don't view my personal residence as an investment. Since I don't ever plan on downsizing and I have no need or desire to sell my residence, what benefit can an increase in value mean to me?

I'd rather live in a $500,000 house and keep 10 times that amount in rental or commercial real estate.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 231
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 7:33 pm:   

Mark,

How did you get a house in the bay area for 25K?


DES (Sickspeed)
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Username: Sickspeed

Post Number: 3898
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 5:05 pm:   

If i had to pick, any house i wanted with just a "moderately nice" car or any car i wanted with just a "moderately nice" house, i'd take a car in a second...! Who said you can sleep in your car, but can't drive your house...? :-)
Erik (Teenferrarifan)
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Username: Teenferrarifan

Post Number: 73
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 4:41 pm:   

A friend of my dad's who is single bought a 360 spider last year right off the showroom floor. He never drives it he just lets it sit in his garage, but the car I think he paid like 230,000 and his house is only worth about 250,000 so they are very close.
Erik
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 770
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:51 pm:   

I knew a guy who rented an apartment in a 2 family home in NY.. He parked his 348 right up front because the home owned parked his piece of crap in the garage.. Go figure.
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1243
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:33 pm:   

Frank: No, I wasn't talking stock market. I wouldn't walk across the street for the opportunity to make 100% in 5 years. Real estate, except for certain exceptional areas, is not a great investment.

Now real estate DEVELOPEMENT........ That's a different animal.
Mark (Markg)
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Username: Markg

Post Number: 473
Registered: 2-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:29 pm:   

bought my house in San Jose, Calif $25K, my 308 $27K...
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Username: Enjoythemusic

Post Number: 405
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:23 pm:   

Tillman,

Nothing is "wrong" with renting (and why buy the cow if the wonderful whole milk is virtually free). Still, the question was "Does anyone own or knows someone who own a car worth more than their own home??" and since i have no home technically... Anywho, just a thought.

Enjoy the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin

Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Username: Tillman

Post Number: 612
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:14 pm:   

Yes. There's some who rent, and others who have modest homes. What's the issue with that?
Steven R. Rochlin (Enjoythemusic)
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Username: Enjoythemusic

Post Number: 403
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:13 pm:   

ok, will come clean here. Do not own a home (i rent). Does that count?

Ahhh the fun, carefree single life...

Enjoy(ing) the Drive,

Steven R. Rochlin
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2272
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:10 pm:   

No.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
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Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2271
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:10 pm:   

Hans, real estate has been the best investment vehicle in the history of the world so far. While I know some stocks boasted 300% appreciation a while back, I think that mule is gone. Both my primary residence and beach house have appreciated almost 100% in the last 5 years which ain't bad. And don't worry, unless you live in a cardboard box your house will always be worth more than your Dino !
Kevin Butler (Challenge)
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Username: Challenge

Post Number: 162
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:08 pm:   

I'll be the first. No.
Kenny Herman (Kennyh)
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Username: Kennyh

Post Number: 855
Registered: 8-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:07 pm:   

I know a few guys whose car collection in total costs more then their house, but not one single car. Tony Wang's GTO probably costs more then his home :-)
Craig A (Milo)
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Username: Milo

Post Number: 86
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:06 pm:   

I have a nice little 1700 square footer with a theater in the basement/celler, two car garage and about .6 acres. All I need to live in. But it is still worth 2-3 times the value of my 348ts.

I too have trouble paying more for a car than I would for a house. I guess it will be a while before I get into a 360.
Kuzi (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma

Post Number: 120
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:05 pm:   

Sorry don't know anyone who's F-car costs more than their house.
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 768
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:03 pm:   

Out of 12 replies, not one answer to the question..

Let's stay focus guys. Ferrari - House! Ferrari - House! :-)
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1239
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:02 pm:   

PS: Brian - Bud Clark's Goose Hollow Inn has great pizza!
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
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Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1238
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 3:00 pm:   

RE: Franks comment. Never understood why some are hung up on big fancy houses. I'd SERIOUSLY consider a small condo, if it weren't for lack of private garage space. I'm home just enough to sleep and watch a little TiVo. Why would I want a many-bedroom maintenance headache? (And, no, don't tell me about investment value. I have much better places to put my money than in a house.)

So, more power to any of you with a car worth more than your house! The car is probably less of a problem in the long run.
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
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Username: Tillman

Post Number: 611
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:57 pm:   

Just to be fair (and hopefully to keep from hijacking the thread) the poster is available at http://www.errolgraphics.com/index.html
Brian Keegan (4redude)
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Username: 4redude

Post Number: 109
Registered: 7-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:54 pm:   

The picture Tillman posted was taken in Portland OR. The man in the picture was a former mayor named Bud Clark IIRC. He also used to own a bar/nightclub at one time. The house was his, but I do not know if the car was. When I worked at Ron Tonkin's, we bought and framed that poster and hung it near the service counter. :-)
Kuzi (Kzma)
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Username: Kzma

Post Number: 118
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:50 pm:   

Tillman, thats it!
Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member
Username: Tillman

Post Number: 610
Registered: 11-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:41 pm:   

Upload
Tim N (Timn88)
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Username: Timn88

Post Number: 2952
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:40 pm:   

A 250 GTO may be worth more than its owner's house.
Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member
Username: Parkerfe

Post Number: 2268
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:39 pm:   

I saw that poster and it was actually a 328. Nevertheless, I think it would be rather stupid to own a car worth more than your home unless is was just caused by great appreciation of the car over a period of time. If my car appreciated that much I would sell it and by a nicer house though.
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
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Username: Enzo

Post Number: 495
Registered: 2-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:36 pm:   

Not the Ferrari poster but closeUpload
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 766
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:34 pm:   

Kuzi. I remember that poster clearly.

On my way home I pass by a trailer park community and parked right outside one of the trailers is a 2002 Red Jaguar S-Type. Go figure
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 764
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

Well said Mitch. :-)
Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member
Username: Kzma

Post Number: 116
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:31 pm:   

I remember a poster from the 80's which had a Ferrari parked in front of a shack and the title was "PRIORITYS"!
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member
Username: Mitch_alsup

Post Number: 636
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:29 pm:   

"why would someone buy a car worth more than some houses??"

Because they made a priority based decision! Or perhaps, they value driving more than eating and sleeping!

""she would never understand".... "

Its a chromozonal issue--either you understand or you can't.
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member
Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 4533
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:26 pm:   

Rob Lay,

You going to chime in on this one? :-)

Matt
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 763
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Thursday, May 08, 2003 - 2:25 pm:   

Had a discusion with the wife the other day and she still can't come to terms with the prices of the F-cars. She asked why would someone buy a car worth more than some houses?? I advised her "she would never understand"....

Which leads to my question of the day.

Does anyone own or knows someone who own a car worth more than their own home??

Type of car please.. Home value is an option.

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