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PeterS (Peters)
Member
Username: Peters
Post Number: 417
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:43 pm: | |
Dave..Touch up chip? Different from liquid paint by chance? Please explain. |
Ken (Allyn)
Member
Username: Allyn
Post Number: 880
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 8:00 am: | |
Modern paint shops can match colors exactly. New paint will make a much, much nicer finish than that crap Ferrari used 20 plus years ago. So if you paint it and get it done right, your car will look fantastic.
That being said, I myself would only paint it if the paint was blooming badly, needed extensive body work or some other compelling reason. Original paint in good condition on an old car gives it charactor and I think makes a better, honest presentation. |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member
Username: H2oquick
Post Number: 239
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 6:40 am: | |
Paul, at our shop we pride ourselves on original looks in paint jobs. Every paint job is wet sanded and buffed. This takes the wet look out of the finish and tones or levels the finish. We usually leave a small trace of orange peel which is found in so many paint jobs, especially Mercedes and Jag. Most of our refinish or panel repairs are new cars. As young as a 3 days old purchase to an average of a few months old. From single stage, 2 stage and 3 stage pearls. Nothing is worse than to do a panel repair and have it look better than the rest of the car. So we try to match and tone that panel where it looks like the rest of the finish. We usually stay in the HI end market so the cars are usually nicer, but of course there is always the beater. |
David Mcguire (Matkat)
New member
Username: Matkat
Post Number: 17
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 14, 2003 - 5:53 am: | |
For what its worth,touch up the chips,if it's done well you can never tell and originality is intact,i drive my 328 as often as possible(which sadly is not enough)
best regards
Dave McGuire |
Paul (Pcelenta)
Member
Username: Pcelenta
Post Number: 334
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 8:27 pm: | |
robert brings up a good point....todays paints are much better than the old nitro-lacquer that Ferrari used...however, does a car become "un-original" when you restore it with new materials and make it better than new...doesn't it loose some of its original character? My 78 308 has most of its original lacquer...it is showing its age...but I really wouldn't be happy with one of the new real wet looking urethane paint jobs..even though it is more durable...in my opinion it just doesn't look correct..what are some thoughts on over restoring? |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1296
Registered: 10-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 6:58 pm: | |
JP
These are cars. They are meant to be used and enjoyed. Touch up the chips so they don't rust and don't worry about it. Chips and Patina are what give cars character. My MK-IV has chips from when it ran at LeMans. My P4 has chips in the belly pan that were put in by Bandini, Amon, Surtees, Vaccerella,etc. somehow I don't feel that hurts their value.
Best
Jim |
PeterS (Peters)
Member
Username: Peters
Post Number: 407
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 6:22 pm: | |
JP...Here's my two cents. I did a post today (off Topic) about a 3M polishing compound I used yesterday. Its called Perfect-III. It is awesome! You may try it. My 308 is a '77, original paint, 66K miles. It looks ten times better with this compound. You may give it a try before you decide to pop for a paintjob. |
Robert Davis (H2oquick)
Junior Member
Username: H2oquick
Post Number: 238
Registered: 8-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 6:10 pm: | |
My 308 is 21 years old with 63k. The paint was in excellent condition. Had a little rust in the bottom of the drivers door and a couple dings here and there along with some rock chips. It was silver in color. I repainted it yellow. Never could be happier. Todays paints in the higher level are better in resistance to the elements, chips and discoloration. Easier to match and blend. And you can take that from me, because this is what I do for a living. You own the car...if the little chips bother you (which they did me) repaint...if not let it go. Maybe you want a different color... |
Marq J Ruben (Qferrari)
Member
Username: Qferrari
Post Number: 359
Registered: 2-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 5:26 pm: | |
Don't paint it. |
Greg Owens (Owens84qv)
Member
Username: Owens84qv
Post Number: 785
Registered: 10-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 4:44 pm: | |
Yes, my 308 is ~19 years old and has the original paint. I'm not going to repaint if I can help it. In fact, there is a very small chip out of the nose badge. To me, part of the history of my car is that chip so even though I've purchased a new nose badge, I'm not replacing it. |
Chris Aaron (T_rutlands)
New member
Username: T_rutlands
Post Number: 2
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 4:40 pm: | |
A car can be restored a million times, but it is original only once.
I would advise touching up the paint chips and leave it original. |
Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member
Username: Mcharness
Post Number: 514
Registered: 8-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 4:09 pm: | |
Actually, you can pretty well blend paint chip fills to be almost invisible. Check out Langka -- a lot of Ferrari folks (including me) use it.
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Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member
Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 109
Registered: 1-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 3:54 pm: | |
I would be more concerned with matching the paint. Probably too hard to do. As an option, if you do paint it, consider having someone put a product called "Armorfend or Armorguard" on the front of the car to protect from bugs, stone chips, etc. It is a clear plastic film. You can fix up the car and still not be afraid of driving it. Without seeing the car, you may have to paint the whole car to make it come out correctly. |
Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member
Username: Doody
Post Number: 1067
Registered: 11-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 3:46 pm: | |
my advice is to not paint it if it means you're going to drive it less. life is just too damn short.
either paint it and keep driving it knowing you'll have to respray every now and then (once every 25 years is hardly too frequently!); or don't pait it and keep driving it.
regardless, keep driving it ;-)
my two pennies.
doody. |
Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jim_schad
Post Number: 1231
Registered: 7-2002
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 3:37 pm: | |
if the paint looks good minus the chips then leave it and enjoy it. if you paint it I would still drive it as you can always repaint the front again. Maybe you can save some paint til later for an exact match? Not sure on life of paint.
Whatever you do DON'T paint it and put her to pasture.
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JP Lavigne (Jpl)
Junior Member
Username: Jpl
Post Number: 72
Registered: 12-2001
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 13, 2003 - 3:34 pm: | |
First off...does anyone out there have a 20+ year old Ferrari with 50K+ miles with its original paint. The reason I ask is that I am looking for comments on what to do or maybe what others may have already done.
I have a 25 year old 308GTB. It is a driver with 65K miles and I add about 10-12K miles a year. The paint is all original and looks good. There are numerous stone chips on the front and the front could use a respray.
Here are my concerns. Do I live with the chips and originality, knowing that if I re-paint it I won't want to take it out and get it chipped again. Do I repaint only the front end...this concerns me as I have been told that matching metalic paint is very hard to do. Do I repaint it and only take it out for very controlled runs where stone chips will most likely not happen.
Comments? |