| Author | Message | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 566 Registered: 4-2003 |
Luke, GREAT collection of GTE'S! Jack | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2301 Registered: 9-2001 |
Scott85, the BB512 model has the carburated engine detailing whereas I want the injected engine detailing of the BB512i. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 1020 Registered: 10-2002 |
Luke, nice collection. That police car is funny. Since you're into the 250, do you know of the Maranello Rosso museum in Rimini? The guy collected nothing but (well almost) 250, but scale 1/1... | ||
| Luke Kowalski (Lukek)
New member Username: Lukek Post Number: 3 Registered: 5-2003 |
Ughhh...a model thread ! I collect 250 GTE models, if you have any... My collection is at: http://www.guigui.com/250gte_models.htm luke, SF, CA 1963 250 GTE | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 1017 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jack, the Drogo is actually a plastic model kit, that somebody put together a long time ago: "Selling a SHMR factory built model in 1:18 scale of a Ferrari Drogo. It is a handbuilt model and you can made different versions (streetversion or one of two raceversions, please see the decals on the picture)" | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Junior Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 172 Registered: 1-2003 |
Ken Lee and J Grand= You have extremely great showcases for your models. What a super display! | ||
| Scott85 (Scott85)
Junior Member Username: Scott85 Post Number: 66 Registered: 12-2000 |
The 308's are out in yellow(red is next) - http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3520365468&category=223 , theres a couple on Ebay , www.scale18.com has it for $50. Both Kyosho & Chrono make the 512BB, the kyosho one is the one to get . Exoticar sometimes has these for sale around $25 and you should be able to get one off of Ebay for around that much. | ||
| Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
Member Username: 4re308 Post Number: 850 Registered: 6-2001 |
Someone PLEASE let me (us) know when that 308 QV model comes out. I will buy a few of them, and have Cavallino paint one Nero Metallica!! | ||
| Terry (Dogue)
Member Username: Dogue Post Number: 336 Registered: 9-2001 |
My wife bought me a Kyosho MiniZ remote control F40 and also bought me the 360 and 355 body kit last year and all of them have Hotwheels logos on them. Considering Mattel doesn't make very good remote control cars, they probably made a deal with kyosho which included a few limited Ferrari 1/18 models. On the 1/43 vs. 1/18, the quality of most 1/43 (even the cheaper ones) seems superior to most 1/18 models. I have about 100 1/43 Ferrari models, I love the scale, because of the space savings. 1/18s are usually marketed as Toys and sold at places like Kaybee, 1/43s are usually sold at hobbyshops. I cannot afford BBRs, but they are amazing and they have a great deal with Ferrari to make each new model. The quality is amazing!! | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2299 Registered: 9-2001 |
Does anyone know where I can get a 1/18th scale model of a BB512i Boxer ? | ||
| Kristoffer Hansson (Maverick)
Junior Member Username: Maverick Post Number: 111 Registered: 3-2001 |
Jay - Thats nice! (I have the same arrangement for my 1:18 ferraris.) IKEA - I buy all my furniture there. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 536 Registered: 4-2003 |
Andreas, >>>Doody, if it is any consolation I just paid over 200 for a Drogo Ferrari. Ilario? If it is Ilario, how is the quality? He approached me to become a reseller but the margins are not all that and the models ARE pricey... Best, Jack | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 535 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>>I'm confused. If Mattel (Hot Wheels) has the exclusive contract to manufacture 1:18 F-cars, how is it that Kyosho is coming out with a "new" 1:18 308 QV? Oh the licencing business, what a joy of life that is.... There are a couple of "tricks" to it as far as I know. Ferrari has sold the complete license for "merchandise" to Fila for 3 years (rumoured price: $ 80,000,000 !!!!). This gives Fila basically the right to do with it what they want (within limits of course). They sell on sublicenses to for example TSSP for clothing, Mattel for toys etc. I do NOT know if the car model deal with Mattel is "exclusive". I could imagine that Mattel has little interest in low volume models as they like to sell by the container load and not per box of 6 pcs. So, it could be that Kyosho bought a sub license for the models they are making from Mattel or from Fila. A little loop hole is that whenever a model has been out of production for at least 25 years, you are free to replicate the shape as long as you don't call it by its proper name and don't abuse the rights regarding protected logos. So, you are free to make a "365 GTC/4" as long as you don't call it a "Ferrari 365 GTC/4" and don't put any Ferrari logos on it. My bet is that Kyosho is paying mattel a handsome sum of $$$ for a license for the 308. Jack | ||
| Michael Davidson (Cabrio_fan)
Junior Member Username: Cabrio_fan Post Number: 51 Registered: 3-2002 |
I'm confused. If Mattel (Hot Wheels) has the exclusive contract to manufacture 1:18 F-cars, how is it that Kyosho is coming out with a "new" 1:18 308 QV? Is there some loophole about which country the model is produced in? Is this new-old-stock just hitting the streets? Does Kyosho mean "Mattel" in Japanese?? Thoughts on this? | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1248 Registered: 10-2001 |
DES I have about 60 1/18 scale models, all of them Italian cars. Here is one of my display cases.  | ||
| Scott85 (Scott85)
Junior Member Username: Scott85 Post Number: 65 Registered: 12-2000 |
I have around 100 1/18 cars , used to have alot more, around 20 Ferraris now. Hot Wheels is no longer making the red Enzo anymore - http://www.sportcraftcars.com/hot.htm , they will probably make it in different colors though. Hot Wheels doesn't seem to keep their 1/18 Ferraris in production for that long. Instead of buying an Anson 328, wait until the fall when Kyosho should have a 328 out(which should be 10X better then the Anson & most likely drive those prices down). Kyosho has the 308 out in red & yellow now. As for the Ertl 275, you really need to replace the wheels(and suspension for that matter) from one of the HW's with Borrini(sp?) wheels, it looks alot better. Its sad that Ertl is the only company so far to make the 275 in 1/18.  | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4046 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ken, i'm no where near 56 models...! LOL, it just looks like a lot, 'cause i post so many pictures...  i have 13 1:18 Ferraris, approximately 30 or so 1:18s total... Now i'm wondering about it, so when i go home, i'll count them... lol... The Slantnose and Elise definitely sound rare; the 1:24 308 sounds ultra-rare...! Likewise, if you're at WWoC, meeting you would be a pleasure... | ||
| Ken Lee (Kenster888)
New member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 20 Registered: 4-2003 |
DES, like you, I collect mostly 1/18 models. Last time I counted 56 1/18 models (But I'm sure you would have more). I have been collecting for over 10 years. My favorite has got to be the F40. Besides the 328, I also have a 86 911 turbo slantnose I think is pretty rare and a Lotus Elise. And a 1/24 308 is rare also (lower left in picture). I'm still deciding weather to go to WWoC or Reading this sunday. If I go to WWoC hope to see you there. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4036 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ken - AWESOME collection...! | ||
| Ken Lee (Kenster888)
New member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 19 Registered: 4-2003 |
Upper left is a red 328 (by Anson, not as detailed as a Bburago). I think I got it for around $20. And picked up a 360 spider and a Z8 (all 1/18) from Kaybee toys last weekend for about $8 a piece. They were having a 1/2 price sale.  | ||
| Cavallino Models (Cavallinomodels)
New member Username: Cavallinomodels Post Number: 4 Registered: 2-2003 |
  www.cavallinomodels.com | ||
| Cavallino Models (Cavallinomodels)
New member Username: Cavallinomodels Post Number: 3 Registered: 2-2003 |
here are some of our custom made 250 california    | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1247 Registered: 10-2001 |
Saw one on ebay go for over $100US | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 1016 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jay, the California spider is still avail as far as I know from Exoticar. Got mine not too long ago. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4017 Registered: 8-2002 |
Cavallino Models...! AWESOME...! i've GOT to have a black Enzo...! How much are they...? i was actually wondering where i could get a custom 1:18 model done... Can you email me, [email protected] with some basic pricing information...? i'd like to explain what i'd like done... A few months ago, someone else posted a link to a site that would customize models, but i can't remember the site... | ||
| Cavallino Models (Cavallinomodels)
New member Username: Cavallinomodels Post Number: 2 Registered: 2-2003 |
we just made those 2 models for car owners.  Ferrari Argento  Ferrari Tour de France Blue Red, Yellow and White are also in stock. www.cavallinomodels.com | ||
| Cavallino Models (Cavallinomodels)
New member Username: Cavallinomodels Post Number: 1 Registered: 2-2003 |
  Both models can be custom made. www.cavallinomodels.com | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1246 Registered: 10-2001 |
I've been looking for a 275 forever! A friend of mine has one but he won't part with it. Apparantly the 250 California spider by Hot Wheels is also very rare. Production stopped on it. I have one with the box but I don't think I'll be selling it. | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 1014 Registered: 10-2002 |
Doody, if it is any consolation I just paid over 200 for a Drogo Ferrari. Never seen another one anywhere so that's how it is. Though. Got that 275 myself. Ugly model, but part of the history. The most expensive model I've seen so far is the Maranello GT for 400 on Exoticar. Still on the fence on that one. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1069 Registered: 11-2001 |
our esteemed host and i ended up bidding up a 1:18 275GTB on ebay a while back. they were very tough to come by back then. not sure about now. it's definitely the priciest of my 1:18 collection - i think we pushed it into three figures. and the annoying part is that it's actually a fairly crappy model, but if you want 275 that's all there is. dooy. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4009 Registered: 8-2002 |
Jens, i saw that, but i'm mainly into 1:18 models; don't get me wrong, i have plenty of smaller cars, but i won't drop a considerable amount of money for something smaller than 1:18... The most i've ever spent on any model (for myself) was $50 + tax.
Lawrence, you're not kidding... This is where the corporation pisses me off... My Bburago 360 is awesome; my Hot Wheels 360 spider is less than stellar and the bonnet/engine cover on my Enzo seems to be slightly less red than the rest of the car... It's very strange, though, because all the Hot Wheels models i'v purchased from Exoticar in Manhattan are awesome and are detailed exquisitely; however the Hot Wheels models i've picked up at various department stores don't match up... My wallet isn't thick enough to only buy top quality models; any Ferrari model makes me smile... Aaron, i'll consider casing eBay for some, but i'm leaning more towards the direction of yard sales and flea markets if you all don't think i have a shot of finding one in a store; that's where the most fun is... Jack, very impressive; none of my 1:43s have that much detail... Just looking at that 333 SP makes me all warm and fuzzy inside... Jay, i agree, Kyosho rocks with models; i have a few Kyosho models; my NSX in particular has carpeting and such and is just really cool altogether... Thanks, everyone. | ||
| J. Grande (Jay)
Intermediate Member Username: Jay Post Number: 1243 Registered: 10-2001 |
DES I bought a black 1:18 scale 328 on ebay for $30 about a year ago. Just be patient and don't bid until there is only a minute or so to go, after all, why drive up the price? I also bought the Kyosho 308 for $80 Canadian (in a store) it is by far one of the best 1:18 models being made. For quality and detail the BBR's in 1:43 and the Kyosho for 1:18 along with some Chrono's. | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 533 Registered: 4-2003 |
Hi DES, >>>Also, are 1:43 models really as popular as it seems...? Yes, about 85% of the sales in model cars is in 1:43 as not many people have the space to store huge collections of 1:18 models. Usually, 1:18 models are more popular with kids as they SEEM to offer "more bang for the buck". An old trick that was already used in the late 1950's was to glue a piece of lead on the inside of the small plastic models to give them a heavier "feel" and so make the model more "valuable" and it worked! Apparently still works with the larger models. >>>but i'm confused as to why a 1:18 Enzo is $29.99 and a 1:43 Enzo is $225... Quality and exclusivity.... My bet is that the Enzo was a Hotwheels (can't be anything else) and that the 1:43 was a BBR. If you can afford it, go for the BBR, which is a MUCH better model than a Hotwheels, and just compare the level of detailing. Then consider that the BBR is roughly 3 times smaller and that only a couple of hundred are being made instead of a couple of hundredthousand and you'll under the price difference. A BBR will hold its value over the years and probably increase where a Hotwheels Enzo will always just be a $ 30 Hotwheels.... This is a BBR F40 in 1:43, just compare the level of detailing to a random model from your 1:18 collection and consider that the model is only slightly larger than the trunklid on a 1:18...  When you look at it closely and compare to off-the-shelf 1:18 models, you know what COULD be possible in that larger scale... On the other hand, manufactured in only slighly larger numbers than BBR, you can have THIS in 1:43 for a mere $ 45.00:  BTW, 1:18 Ferraris used to be a lot cheaper than $ 30 when Bburago still had the license but since Fila took over the license and sold a sub-license to Mattel, prices went up and NOT because of better quality. >>>Lastly, with the 1:18 Enzos, why are they only being produced in red...? Probably (but I can only guess) because 99.6% of the world's population believes that Ferraris are only made in red... Jack | ||
| Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Intermediate Member Username: Tifosi12 Post Number: 1012 Registered: 10-2002 |
DES, actually I have a yellow 1/18 328. Bought it a long time ago for a lot less. Yes, they don't make those anymore, so the price went up. Never cared much about the color, so went ahead and already got a yellow 308. That's one of the most accurate and heaviest 1/18 models I've ever seen btw. | ||
| Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Junior Member Username: Aawil Post Number: 180 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, the 328 models haven't been made for a while. I have seen them in the 100+ range on ebay but usually on the red ones.Yellow seems to be in the 60-80 range, the also made black too. Has anyone seen the new 308 model in red? All the ones on ebay so far have been yellow but when I get one I want RED. | ||
| Lawrence Yee (Ferrariguy)
Junior Member Username: Ferrariguy Post Number: 146 Registered: 8-2002 |
DES, about the 1/18 vs 1/43 Enzo: The hotwheels one is mass produced and since it was distributed by hotwheels, the quality and detail is not that high. You didn't say but I'll bet the 1/43 Enzo was produced by BBR which makes super high quality models in resin, white metal and a ton of photo-etched parts and real Ferrari paint. I know since I have one of the BBRs. | ||
| Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774 Post Number: 644 Registered: 9-2001 |
DES, Just saw this at one of our sponsor sites: http://www.ferraristuff.com/index.html?target=dept_32.html&lang=en-us Also featured at a thread! Unusual scale but looks good to me. Not cheap too though!  Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4003 Registered: 8-2002 |
Just wondering... At the auto show, i went upstairs to the booths to look for some toys to bring home... One booth had a 328 GTS; i have no 3X8s in my collection and eagerly inquired as to the price of this 1:18 beauty. The fellow behind the counter informed me that this particular model was $150 and i could check eBay to verify this; he explained that this is one of the rarest Ferrari models out there. Is this true...? Does anyone have one...? i can't justify spending that much money on a model (at least not right now)... Also, are 1:43 models really as popular as it seems...? i have a few, but i'm confused as to why a 1:18 Enzo is $29.99 and a 1:43 Enzo is $225... Lastly, with the 1:18 Enzos, why are they only being produced in red...? i asked the guy at Exoticar if they'd be made in any other color and he laughed... Ok, so 80% of the 1:1s are red, but what gives...? As far as i know, every other Ferrari comes in more than just red (except for, maybe, the older "models" yuk, yuk, yuk like the 250 LM and such...) Thanks. |