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James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1385
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:28 am:   

Bryan
That was me. Those were the days...
Best
Jim
Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member
Username: Bryanp

Post Number: 99
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 11:13 am:   

That was fantastic, James! did you author that, or is it from something I should be reading?
My dad had the privilege of taking an advanced driving course at Bridghampton taught by Donohue; I think one of his classmates was Janet Guthrie . . .
Bart Boonacker (Sharky666)
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Username: Sharky666

Post Number: 375
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 10:17 am:   

Already sorry for the off-topic question, but Boudewijn is that your 355 in your profile ?

It looks absolutly stunning.

btw. Welcome to the board, always great to see another "dutchie" :-)

As for the car, I only found the "alleged" photo's on http://www.barchetta.cc/english/All.Ferraris/Detail/0726TR.250TR.htm.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1383
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 9:14 am:   

Wayne
You're wrong about the trailer. Tying down by the wheel centers is correct as it allows the suspention to work and subjects the car to much less stress. As for the humbleness of the trailer I'm reminded of the time:
Bruce looked up from his orange car and looked out over Bridgehampton's dunes. Mark and Rodger looked up from the Blue Sunoco #6. Alberto turned from the red car with the NART stickers and Eno touched me on the shoulder and I put down the wrench that I was using to snug up the giant Kinsler trumpets on his car. It was like the back of the book. Halls' white pick up was pulling a modest open trailer upon which rode a white steed unlike any we had seen before. Mounted on two 3 foot struts was a huge wing. As the pale rider steped down from the cab of the pick up we realized the book had foretold the future. The Apocolyspe was at hand... When that Chapparal set off we would all be left behind...
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Username: Boudewijn

Post Number: 6
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 5:36 am:   

0726TR as it was and the "alleged" present oneUpload
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L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1682
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, May 21, 2003 - 4:56 am:   

John, I've met David. His trailer's worth at least $150.

Andrew A. Illes (Andyilles)
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Username: Andyilles

Post Number: 36
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 9:27 pm:   

Roush, you old fart..... finally broke down and tried the internet yourself, huh?

WELCOME!!
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member
Username: Tuttebenne

Post Number: 131
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 8:33 pm:   

Yes, the $50 trailer qualifier doesn't fly here in the Northeast either. I can tell you about a well known Ferrari preservationist who pulls his 410 Sport around on a trailer that's not much different from the one in the picture. Some people need an expensive rig to haul their car but he doesn't. (And if he's reading this, thanks for giving my son a ride around the paddock at Pocono - even if he did have to sit on the battery box. He was thrilled and cherishes the pictures) :-)
john w. houghtaling, II (Johnhoughtaling)
Junior Member
Username: Johnhoughtaling

Post Number: 134
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 6:52 pm:   

Bravo Gerald. Wonderful to know you are on the board.

Guys, looks like you will have a hard time from now on stumping the list now that Gerald is in the crowd!

John W. Houghtaling, II

P.S.

Wayne:

I tried to use that logic at Monteray last year when I saw an old guy drive up in a beat up old van, pulling a $50 trailer with what appeared to be a 250 Pontoon Fender TR. He got out with an old tool box and he and his elderly wife got to work on the car themselves.

That guy was David Love (sp?). As I understand he's owned and raced his car for over 30 years.
Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
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Username: Ferrmktltr

Post Number: 24
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 5:27 pm:   

No, but I've seen photos and it doesn't look like this!
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 649
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 5:18 pm:   

Gerald,

have you ever seen 0726 up close?

I wonder how good a "recreation" it is.

Jack
Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
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Username: Ferrmktltr

Post Number: 23
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 5:13 pm:   

Most obvious reason this is a fake . . . LEFT HAND DRIVE! How many LHD sports racing Ferraris can you identify? I have one 500 TR S/N 0620, a bunch of 250 Pontoon Fender Testa Rossas, two TR 58's, S/N 0726 and S/N 0728, and two Dino sports racers, S/N 0740 and S/N 0746.

And that's all, folks!
Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member
Username: Ferraristuff

Post Number: 648
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 5:10 pm:   

Could be a 250 TR58 but can't really pin a S/N to it.

I first thought it was 0726TR but the body that I know if that is different from this one.

Jack
Mitchel DeFrancis (4re308)
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Username: 4re308

Post Number: 855
Registered: 6-2001
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 4:52 pm:   

Gauges are wrong, pedals are wrong, steering wheel is wrong, shifter is wrong, hand brake wrong and in wrong place. This is NOT a real Ferrari.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
New member
Username: Boudewijn

Post Number: 5
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 2:46 pm:   

Thank you all for the expertise and sometimes entertaining way to unmask the alleged Ferrari.
Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
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Username: Ferrmktltr

Post Number: 21
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Tuesday, May 20, 2003 - 8:17 am:   

To identify this car start with a simple process of elimination. It is LEFT HAND DRIVE so immediately rule out all RIGHT HAND DRIVE sports racing Ferraris.

So what's left?
Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member
Username: Arlie

Post Number: 1140
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 10:27 pm:   

Don't tell me that with all the Ferrari buffs on the board that this car is going to remain an UNKNOWN. Where was the photo taken? Judging by the heighth of the classic "boat trailer" hand crank winch, I don't see how the car could be winched up on the trailer without the winch cable digging into the underside of the bodywork below the grill opening. But I still think it looks nice. Wish that I could find one lying in the weeds for $300. (my average price for weedmobiles.)

Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Member
Username: Jordan747_400

Post Number: 994
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 7:42 pm:   

I agree with Wayne, the craftsmanship doesnt look all that great. I doubt its real.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member
Username: Amenasce

Post Number: 940
Registered: 10-2001
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 6:28 pm:   

The wheelbase look way too long ..
L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member
Username: Lwausbrooks

Post Number: 1680
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 6:24 pm:   

My non-expert opinion is that if it were truly a 1950s sports racing Ferrari spyder by Scaglietti (see badge near shifter), it probably wouldn't be sitting on a $50 trailer and held down with Bungee cords.
Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member
Username: Bryanp

Post Number: 98
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 6:10 pm:   

It is not a four cylinder Ferrari - so that rules out 500 Mondials, 750 Monzas, 860 Monzas, etc. If it is a Ferrari, it is a v-12 (hood scoop), and some odd things have been done. The Borletti instrument cluster looks period correct for 1953-54. However, Ferrari did not drill its pedals and the handbrake arrangement is not typical. The shift tower does not look like any that I have seen for that period. A re-bodied 375 is a possibility. Wayne?
Craig Sutherland (Craigh)
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Username: Craigh

Post Number: 13
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 5:53 pm:   

375MM?
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 807
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 4:34 pm:   

It looks like a Mondial 500. I could be wrong..
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
New member
Username: Boudewijn

Post Number: 4
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Monday, May 19, 2003 - 2:12 pm:   

Does anyone have a clue as to what kind of racing Ferrari this may be. The two ovoid port holes in the front are very uncommon for the different Ferrari types I know of through my digital collection of racing Ferraris of the fifties.Upload
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