| Author | Message | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 139 Registered: 7-2002 |
Ben, I manufacture them (melt my own glass) email: [email protected] Glen | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 375 Registered: 6-2002 |
Steve, the fiber I've used with the HMI illiminator (agree about it's problems, but smaller HMIs are getting that re-strike time down to 2-3seconds, much like HID xenon gas lights for automobiles. Still present, but coming down. The fiber I used with that illuminator was *10mm* each strand. both end-glow (conventional 'fiber') and edge-glow I've used. Great stuff, and can often exceed the brightness produced by say an MR16 halogen. (and have a smaller source-point form factor.) One of these 400W illiminators can light over a dozen of the 10mm end-glows, each one making more lumens than a single 50W MR16. Ok, now I'm digressing! John/TRHaven, if you'd like to chat about fiber lighting, my email is; [email protected] would love to hear about what you've found! Best! Ben. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 232 Registered: 7-2001 |
Steve, tried your line, got machine, however, appreciate the information on your sight. The garage on your site is quite a project, I hope to keep mine an easier build. I'm of the same opinion regarding light. I plan on a large end window for outside looks and blending with the home. The first pic is the corner that the new room (garage) will come off of at 45 degrees. You can see there is a great deal of sun for most of the day. The other picture is one corner on the opposite side of the house with the type window I'll put in the back of the new garage, other windows have to match the rest of the house, but will be shuttered for safety and UV reasons, either with blinds or a more decorative method.   Alex: I would like to know if your contractor has someone in NJ as well. Appreciate your asking him. | ||
| Steve D'Gerolamo (Ultgar)
New member Username: Ultgar Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2003 |
TR Heaven.......I'd be very interested in seeing whats new in fiber optics. Yes, the lights I saw were SuperVision multistrand .030 Sideglow cables...not very impressive looking. For info on dehumification, see http://www.ultimategarage.com/UltGar2g.htm . For minimal UV and maximum security, I simply minimize the use of windows and skylights in museum areas. | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 138 Registered: 7-2002 |
Steve, The optics you are refering to "needing a dark room to appreciate" what were they 0.028" in Dia? I manufacture fiberoptics for Machine Vision, Illumination and Industial Sensors - when combined with a HP Light Source - it is BLINDING - still a little pricey for Garages - but doing a lot of installs at High End art galleries in homes - and believe me - you can see the art. I can send you a sample of the Fiberoptics i use, along with a light source you can fool around with - but i will need them back. Interested in the "Humidity and UV control" you mentioned (do you have any info you can email me?) Alex: Can you give me the name of the contractor you used for the floor ? want to see if he knows of anyone in Tampa... Glen | ||
| Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member Username: Ralessi Post Number: 135 Registered: 5-2002 |
Ben, do you have any pictures of your garage? I would really like to see the glass walls - sounds great! Also, as someone else mentioned, how do you deal with the sun's UV rays, etc., and their effect on the cars/inside of the garage? | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 230 Registered: 7-2001 |
thanks Alex, makes sense | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
New member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 26 Registered: 2-2003 |
Ferrari emblems of any kind are difficult as FNA, in their infinite wisdom and search for mo' money have cracked down hard on unauthorized use of their trademarks. That's why you can't find floor mats with logos anywhere. Your best best is to have the floor done in epoxy, then hire a local signwriter or artist to physically paint the emblem on the floor. Follow this with clear epoxy over the painting. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 229 Registered: 7-2001 |
Steve: You're right on with the UV and environment. The plan calls for shaded windows and an independant heating/ac system that will maintain temp/humidity. I'll email you today. You and Ben are talking way over my head with the lighting, but I'd like to know more. Vince: the lift is a Bend-Pak PF7000ST. If you have some help in lifting the ramps, you can do it yourself, the ramps are very heavy, but three guys can handle it. I hired someone to install it and knew what had to be done better the he did. Having read the manual carefully, it is really not that difficult. You should have a compessor or compessed air tank to expand the clynder to attach the cables, but other then that, all tools are normals we all have. I don't know how thick my concrete floor is, but it's new construction and anything over four inches is OK. Each post is on a square foot foot print and not bolted to the floor (although you have the option to and concrete anchors are supplied), you can actually use casters to move the lift car and all. I also didn't want a 220 Volt setup, this one is 110. Thanks Alex: It certainly looks worth the work, I'll look around here for a contractor. I have found this multi-layered painting at a local Lowes home center, believe it or not, if it looks like it might work, I'll try it. Still nobody with any ideas on the floor emblems? Thanks, John | ||
| Steve D'Gerolamo (Ultgar)
New member Username: Ultgar Post Number: 13 Registered: 2-2003 |
Metal halide is a great light source. Good color rendition and fairly efficient. I will use some of these for my landscape lighting (Erco brand out of Germany). The downside is the dimming issue and the 5-8 minute restrike time in the event of power disruption. Metallics are great in shops with high ceilings (14-20')........not ideal for 8-12' garage ceilings. The few times I've seen fiber optics, you could barely tell that they were on. You need a real dark room to appreciate them. Also, if you want to change colors, you'll have to go through a color wheel. With Red/Blue/Green LED's, you can make any color you want including full spectrum daylight. As I said before, fiber optics may be the standard in 10-15 years but they are pretty limited at present to special effects and not general illumination. | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
New member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 25 Registered: 2-2003 |
John re epoxy I don't know exactly what the brand is, but I used a local contractor in Phoenix who has done several of my friends' gagrages as well. I know it is about a five day process from begining to end invloving several coats and fine sanding to get the final finish. It really works well and is impervious to anything, including hot oil leaking from my old Dino | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 367 Registered: 6-2002 |
Steve- have you had any expierence with HMI/Hallide lit fiber optics? We just did a project with a 400watt HMI illuminator and I can assure you, it's bright enough for any conciveable use, including commercial venue lighting. HMI cannot be easially dimmed, though I have come up with some ways around that. Best! Ben | ||
| Steve D'Gerolamo (Ultgar)
New member Username: Ultgar Post Number: 12 Registered: 2-2003 |
TR Heaven.....I think fiber optics with a central light engine is the way of the future. Unfortunately, I haven't seen decent lumens yet for any fiber optic products. I've seen some interesting LED products from Color Kinetics which are faily bright and with RGB LED's, give the user the ability to dial in 16 million different colors with a laptop and the proper software (see bottom of page at http://www.ultimategarage.com/UltGar2b.htm ). The best bang for the buck right now is T5 or T8 florescents with 4100-5000K/85-90 CRI lamps (actually yellow and red Ferrari's will look better under 3400K lamps). The T5's or T8's will be very energy efficient and cool running. Great general lighting. I still like MR16 halogens for task lighting. If you have some interesting fiber optic products, I'd love to give them a try in some upcoming projects. SD | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 405 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, Looks like I have about the same clearance in my Garage (which now has one row of track lighting). Wich model is it? Was installation easy? Did you have to do anything special to the slab of your garage for extra support? Thanks, | ||
| Steve D'Gerolamo (Ultgar)
New member Username: Ultgar Post Number: 11 Registered: 2-2003 |
John....if the cars are truly valuable, you'll want to carefully control humidity and UV exposure. Contact me directly and I can pass on some interesting ideas from my current garage showcase project. Steve | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 135 Registered: 7-2002 |
Alex, What epoxy did you use for the floor ?? Glen | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 228 Registered: 7-2001 |
Good morning Vince, This lift is the best one for engine or trans work, the middle is unobstructed and you can easily drop a trans or work on the drive train, one of the reasons I went with the four post. I have a JACK PLATE that goes across the ramps and allows me to us a hydrolic jack to lift a wheel or two wheels at a time, while the car is raised to any level on the lift. You could use two jack plates and put stands under the frame (example below: this was during the 2001 restoration of the T/A). It's just that this type lift gave me all the otpions. I'll take some better pictures of the lift when I get a chance, but for this holiday weekend, NJ is a wash, today it's pouring again, could really depress someone. j  | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 388 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, Thanks, i see you have a four post lift. Can the lift be set up to lift the car by the chassis so that you can remove the tires or drop the engine?   And for the entertainment portion of our program   | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 227 Registered: 7-2001 |
Vince: keep motivated, I know the feeling, you have everything you need. Chris: Thanks for getting back on the cars. Your garage looks great, just sit and watch TV from the car. Nice idea. I have a Bend-Pak lift just installed last week. I can recommend that one, works well. Sorry for your troubles, I hate when that happens. Jack: You crack me up, where the hell do you find these things. Interesting. Alex: Fantastic, I'm really glad for you, some stable. The floor looks great, I might follow through on that color, if I could find large emblems, I would put them on the floor and clearcoat over them, I think that would look great. Great idea with the two doors, I wanted the building attached so I could enter from the house. I'm going for a living area as well. Thanks for the pictures. Chris: this is the new lift in the old garage, just installed so it's a bit of a mess, tomorrows project. But it does a good job.  John J | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
New member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 15 Registered: 2-2003 |
Specs are as follows: 1,000 sq ft (25 x 40) Grey epoxy floor Walls : top half white, bottom half red with a horizontal yellow stripe around the whole garage. 2 double doors: 18 ft on the 40 ft side and 16 ft on the 25 ft side. Full A/C (air and heat) | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
New member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 14 Registered: 2-2003 |
Back to Garages... I built a standalone building and filled it with my dreams  | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 746 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, your wife has a taste for Italian cars and you like to burn rubber in your Transam? You COULD combine the two into one car.... ;-) Jack  | ||
| Chris Burch (Cyb)
New member Username: Cyb Post Number: 24 Registered: 1-2003 |
Jonn, it is an F40 in the pic...F1 355 GTS adjacent to the F40. Old pic, now 512 TR in place of the 355. The lift is a Back Yard Buddy....I would never recommend this lift...I had to pay to have it retrofitted just to work. They should be out of business!!!!! | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 376 Registered: 4-2003 |
This has gotten me motivated to follow up on my lighting project in the garage. I have some track lighting left over from my home remodel. It's no "big screen garage", but hey it does have a Ferrari. Oh yeah...I do have a radio in there for the ballgames. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 226 Registered: 7-2001 |
Jack, I knew it was a toy and not model, but from the dual headlights, and no nose extension, it was modeled after a 77 or 78 only. Interesting toy though. TR: damn, on the other side of the world. we'll see. Am looking forward to the info. J | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 132 Registered: 7-2002 |
Office is in Tampa - 15mins from the airport - i live in Clearwater | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 740 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, is this a '78? It is by no means an exact scale model but a battery powered "toy" from the very late 1970's. I vaguely remember one at the GM dealership where I worked saturdays as a teenager. Jack | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 223 Registered: 7-2001 |
Jack, love it. I have two t/a models, all close to a 78, but none on the year. Would love to find a 84 15th ann as well, but don't think so. Pontiac sent me a convertable 2002 collector model, but I'm looking for the coupe with T's. I collect them when I find them. Mr. TR, thanks, I look forward to seeing the info. I'm in Florida about four times a year. We have an office down there in Fort Lauderdale, where are you? J | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 131 Registered: 7-2002 |
ill post the info guys - if your ever in Florida -ill give you the tour.... | ||
| Jack Habits (Ferraristuff)
Member Username: Ferraristuff Post Number: 736 Registered: 4-2003 |
John, Transam? Is that something like this?  Jack | ||
| Faisal Khan (Tvrfreak)
Junior Member Username: Tvrfreak Post Number: 198 Registered: 3-2003 |
TR Heaven, do you have a website? If not, I would also appreciate a copy of the information. Thanks, Faisal. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 221 Registered: 7-2001 |
Mr TR Heaven, I would love to receive that info, sounds real good to me. Thanks for your help. Thanks again, TTYL John | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 220 Registered: 7-2001 |
Arie, that hurts to see, hope you gave that beauty new life. Rikky: Flourescents just don't look starry enough. Yes they're great for seeing and working under, but I'm not going to do that here, just lookin good, want showroom lighting. Jason: Thanks for the link, I'll look into them closely, I don't understand why I have seen so many garage floors with the emblems (anywhere from f-cars to corvettes) on the floor and now can't find one place that sells them. Doody's link was interesting but Doody, I think the language is Martian, ????? Chris: what can I say, the only thing missing is a bed, we'd all sleep in a garage that looks like that. Is that an F40 and what is the yellow one next to it? What type of lift do you have? Hey Remix: don't go crazy, it's fun, but life is more then that. Anyway, I'm over the hill, it took a long time. I don't jump in the cars like I use to, now I have to lower myself in. Ben: It will take me some time to digest what you wrote. The vent idea is really good, is there such a thing as an automatic floor vent? I am thinking of moving an entertainment center in to that area, but my son and his friends use it more then us and I'd rather keep the room closed to too much company. We'll put a TV, arm chair or whatever in there and use it when we like, that will be fun. The windows?? we thought about that, when the sun comes in, man it takes a toll on whatever it shines on,(bleached out our wood flooring). Also, we don't want too much showing from outside. We are installing a Palladium window at the end of the room and larger windows facing the back yard. The front we planned to put high windows in for security. We have a home security system that will be extended into the room. Thanks for all the info, I hope to get started this late spring. If anyone can think of a place for floor art, I'd love to know. John | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 129 Registered: 7-2002 |
John A Ill post some info i have for the optic lighting - no question the best lighting option (period) I maufacture out of Tampa fla - i can set you up if you choose to go with it. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 345 Registered: 6-2002 |
LIGHTING will make the difference! I really like TechLighting's products, used them in many of my designs. They put art and sex into lighting, so you can avoid the classic (yet almost cliche) design of 'just hide all the sources' and actually show some of the sources as design in themselves. Some simple pendants on Monorail is a good start (maybe an oval above every car?) You can start to have some real fun with RadiusWire like stuff, and their more whimsical stuff (blimps, airplanes, etc.) A *TOP* notch video and audio entertainment system is an absolute must for enjoying videos from the in-car-camera on race days! (or playing SPEED channel 24/7 ;) I like to put as much floor-to celing glass as I can into my garages. I'd make every wall 100% glass with no supports if I could. Use SGG Priv-a-Lite to add security (this glass fogs electronically on command from a central home control system. SGG has produced BULLETproof variants for us in the past.) Using glass inside the garage, as someone else mentioned, is also a great idea! Ventelation- the real nice thing (gas fumes are a pet peeve of mine, even just a few whifs stays with me for the rest of the day, maybe gets stuck in my delinquient long hair or something to have is a floor-based venting system, which is active whenever a car is running (can be triggered acoustically and totally automated, or just keyed to the door.) to literally suck all fumes into the floor and outside before they can get onto your skin! <esp> For the floor you have several options. If you go simple 'paint' get the epoxy coating used in airplane hangars. Grey, or pure white are good options. You can go tile and/or black/white checker too, there are many good options depending on your preference. I REALLY recomend the radiant floor heating! You can tip toe out in the morning in bare feet and a robe and oggle the cars! SO NICE!!! Best! Ben. | ||
| RockStar (Remix)
New member Username: Remix Post Number: 23 Registered: 3-2003 |
You've all inspired me to take further steps toward financial success. Time to buy some LOTTO tickets. REMIX | ||
| Chris Burch (Cyb)
New member Username: Cyb Post Number: 21 Registered: 1-2003 |
John , don't forget the surroundsound, video and Racedeck flooring!  | ||
| Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member Username: Ralessi Post Number: 134 Registered: 5-2002 |
What's wrong with fluorescent lighting, guys? I heard that it was good for garages... that it showed all of the paint flaws of your cars (maybe this is a bad thing)? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1422 Registered: 10-2002 |
Arie Sorry... Best Jim | ||
| ARIE BONSELAAR (Arie)
New member Username: Arie Post Number: 50 Registered: 5-2001 |
I know this is a ferrari site not a pontiac one! 1st t/a was wrecked/ it was in my parking lot when this happend what luck...   | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 374 Registered: 3-2001 |
Here's an example of the screen printed cabinet  | ||
| Jason Fraser (Jfraser)
Member Username: Jfraser Post Number: 373 Registered: 3-2001 |
These Guys do a lot of work with Ferrari UK, and the dealership I used in the UK had their flooring system (looked great) They can even custom screen print the cabinets (you could have them red, with Scuderia shields) They do have a USA distributor, and the 3D modelling program on the website is great for designing your own garage. http://www.dura.co.uk/system/index.html | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 219 Registered: 7-2001 |
That's great Arie, two great cars (tire burner must be 455), post a pic if you can. J | ||
| ARIE BONSELAAR (Arie)
New member Username: Arie Post Number: 49 Registered: 5-2001 |
John A (Jarends) I am glad to see there is a pontiac lover here too! I have a 70 t/a ramair/ 73 t/a none superduty. the 70 is a tire burner!! oh yeah! my none tire burner 308 gtb too {-- cheap on tires/..... | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 218 Registered: 7-2001 |
Thanks Clax, you brought it to a new level. J | ||
| Clax (Clax)
New member Username: Clax Post Number: 47 Registered: 10-2002 |
Other ideas: 1. Soft Water Treatment & Filtration System - great for ensuring that your cars get the best water possible during washes. 2. Compressed Air System with Filtration - great for no-touch dry-offs of your car, or blowing off towel lint following waxing/polishing. Filtration system is key. Without a good one, you're sandblasting your paint. 3. Good Sound System - for those days where you are spending a significant amount of time in the garage. 4. Top Notch Security System - use of a good security system with motion sensors. Also, my new garage is being retrofitted with keycode access from outside AND inside. During those big house parties, you don't want unwanted visitors in your toy box. Well, I don't, at least. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 217 Registered: 7-2001 |
Martin: it's a normal height door, just 16 feet wide (much easier access). I expect a normal cathedral ceiling, so the lighting should work. The floor will be well insulated so I should be OK. Thanks, Thanks Doody, lookin it up now. John | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4717 Registered: 5-2001 |
John, her eis one concern on your sketch. The 16ft overhead door means your room is very high. In that case map out the area where your cars will be parked and install a hanging (whatsumacallit), like a track that hangs from the ceiling and on those tracks you install the ights to illuminate the cars. 16ft is very high. My warehouse is the same and it is tough to get good lighting in there. You will loose a lot in dead air. You can get those tracks from fair display manufacturers. They have the coolest things. Also judging by the pic in your profile you live up north, so a radiant heat floor may be a wise idea. Don't quite understand why you want to go 16 feet, unless you collect farm equipment or for later resale value. 10-12 feet is a great height. Gives you enough for doubling up if needed and does not cost a fortune to heat/cool. Maybe a glass partition ala Candy store my be in order as well. | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1101 Registered: 11-2001 |
http://www.neko.co.jp/guest/magazine/garagelife/ unfortunately my kanji is a bit rusty ;-) doody. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 216 Registered: 7-2001 |
Hey Paul, gave the number a call, they do have color tiles (ones 12x12 with the f-horse and others). They're to small for any impact. I found a picture of a garage with and emblem on the floor but no reference to where it came from. Would anyone know where to get something like that? J | ||
| Randle Roberts (Racerboy9)
New member Username: Racerboy9 Post Number: 10 Registered: 2-2003 |
There is actually a high quality Japanese magazine called Garage Life Magazine (GOOGLE SEARCH) that may be good for ideas. I don't know if people actually work in those garages or just keep them for show but they do look nice. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 214 Registered: 7-2001 |
Arie, sure am, my wife owns the 328. I have a 78 black 4 speed, a 1984 15th anniversary 5 speed and a 2002 collector edition six speed. My wife is refined I just burn rubber | ||
| ARIE BONSELAAR (Arie)
New member Username: Arie Post Number: 48 Registered: 5-2001 |
Looks by the garage parking sketch some ones into pontiac trans am`s! | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 212 Registered: 7-2001 |
Tony, the secret here is that I call it a garage for the tax man. This will be a finished insulated room that will look like any other room in the house (just don't know what the wall colors will be). Anyway, I am settingup a family area in the point towards the house with a sitting area, tv and kitchenet, I plan to spend time in this room. The CO detectors, great idea. I did wonder how the venting would work when starting up the cars and when pulling them in. Have to think about that. I have GAS in the home and that's what will be used in this new room. Doody, Your probably right, but I may also look into other flooring as well. I have to get the final inspection on the room before I finish it off, has to look like a garage until then. Thanks guys for you input, John | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1097 Registered: 11-2001 |
jarends - nice setup! looks to be about 40' by 60' or so (with the pointy part?). no way the tiles would cost you that much - you need to negotiate with those guys - there's a ton of wiggle room in their pricing. doody. | ||
| Tony Mongillo (Tonym)
New member Username: Tonym Post Number: 18 Registered: 8-2001 |
John, A couple of other commments. I put in a CO monitor with digital readout in one of the power outlets. I was amazed at how quickly the CO built up when running a non-catalyst car, even with the main doors open. I also considered radiant, but ended up with ceiling mounted, externally vented propane. I did put 2" foam insulation under the floor and insulated all walls and ceiling. Radiant is great, but has a slow response time. I typically leave the garage barn at 45 degrees unless I'm out there working. In 30 minutes the propane heaters get it up to 65 degrees. Good Luck, Tony | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 211 Registered: 7-2001 |
here is the sketch, hope it comes out  | ||
| bob snow (Resnow)
Junior Member Username: Resnow Post Number: 92 Registered: 5-2001 |
I have a 3' by 10' pit in one stall of my garage/workshop that makes it easy to get under the car without the hassle of a lift. Can't do without one now. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 210 Registered: 7-2001 |
Thanks for the $ on the tiles, figured a full covered floor would cost about $7000. I'll paint it for now. The turn table was looked into, but again $$$$. the room is big enough to K-turn in and park 4 cars against the back wall facing the door. I'm putting in about a 16 foot door to access the room (about in the middle). I'm going to sketch it and scan in a diagram if I can. Optic lighting? sounds great, how does it work? John | ||
| "The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 82 Registered: 1-2003 |
You neeeed a turntable, you pull in head first and then you can spin the car 180 for a quick exit, also good to pack in the cars, this done alot in Japan. Turntable is about 20' in diamter and can be spun by hand or small electric motor. | ||
| RockStar (Remix)
New member Username: Remix Post Number: 21 Registered: 3-2003 |
"Is that your hummer in there.. I think it's really "Coolio" ;)" uH-OH...BUSSSSSTED!!! Not my Hummer, though. Here's a link for the floor pricing. I think it's pretty reasonable at $3.45 per tile - they're 12"x12"x1/2" Go here: http://www.zr1.net/ZR1store/index.html REMIX | ||
| TR Heaven (Johndillinger)
Junior Member Username: Johndillinger Post Number: 119 Registered: 7-2002 |
if you guys want to get creative - install fiberoptic lighting - multi legged cables - connected to an external source (hidden in your cabinet) i manufacture fiberoptics for industrial automation and have come up with some ultimate lighting solutions for residential applications - anyway after i install mine ill post some pics - im still working on the floor..... | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 209 Registered: 7-2001 |
Martin, I already put in the plan for recessed spot lighting (not flood) with a separate track lighting halogen setup. I wanted to have a sparkle in the cars. Flourecents? never, you're right on that. I am building from scratch, but I have a portable aircompressor and really all the heavy work will be done in the other garage. There I have the lift (Bend-pak) and my tools. This room is for me and family to sit in, watch TV and look at the car on display 24/7. Doody: I looked at the site remix listed. I couldn't find a price for the product. About how much is it a section? | ||
| Mr. Doody (Doody)
Intermediate Member Username: Doody Post Number: 1094 Registered: 11-2001 |
fwiw, i evaluated racedeck and kiwitile and went with the latter. they'll both negotiate their pricing down, so in the end i simply felt that the hook-and-loops on the kiwi product were more robust than the racedeck product (ie: it could be taken apart more times before the hooks would break). totally trivial to install. i'm a big fan. doody. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4712 Registered: 5-2001 |
John, this is a full doc 12K Miles car with 30K done and the owner wants $57K for the car. I will post pictures of my garage when the tile is installed on Friday. Will look 100% nice. I am very happy right now epecially with the right lighting. Lighting makes so much difference if you want to spend some time in there. The florescents are just crap. If you are building the garage from scratch have air lines built into it as well. I would have some on the wall and one from the ceiling. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 818 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hey Remix, Is that your hummer in there.. I think it's really "Coolio" ;) | ||
| RockStar (Remix)
New member Username: Remix Post Number: 19 Registered: 3-2003 |
Some of you may want to check into the Race Deck flooring. I want some, but it's gonna be a while before I can bother with it. They look pretty cool and you can get creative with the colors. Not too bad pricewise, either. yes, they have yellow as well (take a look at the pic of the Hummer). http://www.racedeck.com/shop.htm REMIX | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 208 Registered: 7-2001 |
Martin, that black beauty would look nice in my garage, but so it is, how much is the price? Your right about the black/white checker under the car, I can see that. My initial thought was to paint the floor only in a grey tone with the floor icons in front of each car, maybe that's what I'll do. thanks for the input. Paul, I'll give them a call today. Are these large area complete images are just a tile kit? Ron, I wish you luck, my wife was ok with it as well, lucked out. It helped that the contractor stated the value would come back and most likely increase the property value. Scott: I considered radiant heating, however, went with forced air. There will be a heat/ac unit in a enclosed area in back of the kitchen area. The fan will be running constantly with a micro filter maintaining a dustless environment. The gas fume comment is a good one, I didn't think of that. I'll have to look into it further. My regular garage is going to have a gas heater installed, and the company said there was no problem with gas fumes?? I don't smell gas when I'm in the garage, only after I pull a car in from driving, but not much. BTW nothing posted is boring or too practical. Thanks for the information, I knew I was in the right place for it. Regards, John | ||
| Scott Anderson (Srandrsn)
Junior Member Username: Srandrsn Post Number: 160 Registered: 4-2001 |
John, You might want to consider radiant floor heating. A heated slab or passing the water through baseboard units wont create much dust and really gives a comforatable heated environment. Electric is also clean but expensive to opperate. You can put the boiler/heating unit in a small seperate building/shed and run the lines into the new space. Thus you don't have to worry about fuel fumes or anything being ignited by the heating unit. I know this is a boring "practical" concern but just thought I'd pass it along. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 814 Registered: 5-2002 |
I have big ideas and plans for mine. My wife isn't even against it.. All II have to do is empty all the boxes that over take the garage.. One day... | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 156 Registered: 1-2003 |
I have seen Cavallino tiles availalble for sale. I have one myself. Mine came from the Cavallino Restaurant in Maranello and I have it displayed in a showcase. I have seen the ones you can buy advertised in differenct Ferrari magazines. I think they are availalbe for sale through Continental Motors in Illinois. Try this number 630-655-3535. I remember the price of $30 each. | ||
| Martin - Cavallino Motors (Miami348ts)
Advanced Member Username: Miami348ts Post Number: 4707 Registered: 5-2001 |
John I am doing mine right now. I put some recessed halogen lights in the ceiling (since I started with nothing), have track lights on a seperate switch as well as halogen sting lights. You can create this way a homey feel glow of light and as well work light. The floor will be tiles with gray 16x16 tiles and a black and white checker line in the front of the doors. Just black and white disturbs my eyes and takes away from the cars. The F-shields I have done before in my other garage with cutting out the shield outline when laying the floor and then placing the shield as a mosaic piece by piece. Took about 6 hours in total. Brace yourself yellow tile is hard to find. You can also see a marble dealer. Some of them have the capability to create logos out of marble. I will possibly do this this time. Here is a garage I visited yesterday. The 348 is for sale. Just for you to get an idea on the tiles:  | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3020 Registered: 6-2001 |
A member re-did his garage recently and posted the whole project on a web page. He really went all out with it. If i can find the thread, i'll post it. | ||
| John A (Jarends)
Junior Member Username: Jarends Post Number: 207 Registered: 7-2001 |
Finally planning a new garage for the car collection. It will be a 50 x 38 room, heated and air conditioned, finished walls, cathedrial ceiling and poured cement floor, sitting area and kitchenet,can't wait. It will hold four cars (the fourth one is in Canada on its way). Ligthing, floor color and other option, I'm not sure about and figured you all might have some good ideas. I know I would like to tile the floor black and white squares, but would like to put a FERRARI shield on the floor, don't know where to get one. I installed a lift in my regular garage last Saturday so I don't need that in this room. Look forward to any great ideas you all might have. J |