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Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 534 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 7:09 pm: | |
Not really too much Jack. Although there is a lot to their line up, Porsche has fed off of it's success in retaining the basic principles they feel make them a good automaker. This includes things from a design perspective. Differentiating convertibles and four wheel drive models is in my opinion a bit of overlap. I consider them the same car. In my eyes, Porsche is Carrera GT, GT1, GT2, GT3, 996, and Boxster. And the new addition of the Cayenne. If you notice, the Turbo model in the coupes falls under 996, and the Turbo Cayenne obviously under Cayenne. Cheers |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 887 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 7:05 pm: | |
Es ist zu viel! |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 532 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 7:02 pm: | |
GT 2, GT 3, Turbo, C4S, C4, C4 Cabrio, C2, C2 Cabrio, C2 Targa. Fast twin turbo, beefed up naturally aspirated, normal turbo, 4wd sports suspension, normal 4wd, 4wd convertible, 2wd , 2wd convertible, 2wd targa. Ja, ist good! |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 884 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 6:41 pm: | |
The other thing hurting the 911, IMO, is that it's offered in 8 variations. Why so many? |
Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm
Post Number: 368 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 5:13 pm: | |
I would take a 993 over a boxster. IMO better styling, more power and could get one at a similar and in some cases cheaper price. |
neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member Username: 95spiderneal
Post Number: 145 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 9:22 am: | |
had a yellow 99 boxt 3 yrs prior to 348 spider and never had a problem through many track days and daily driver use. great entry level sports car to learn on. true its very common sight in some areas but thats cause its good. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 509 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 2:18 am: | |
"The Boxster is a much better car than the 911" I hope this was a joke of some kind... Cheers |
Bart Duesler (The_bart)
Junior Member Username: The_bart
Post Number: 85 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 24, 2003 - 2:08 am: | |
The Boxster is killing the 911. The Boxster is a much better car than the 911. Production numbers are important except in Ferrari. Never drive less than 12.
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Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 587 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 9:30 pm: | |
NSXs are better. Ok there is my little comment. |
Hubert Otlik (Hugh)
Member Username: Hugh
Post Number: 848 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 8:41 pm: | |
Mitch: consider that you've got more power AND wider tires, then again most people gain 1-3 seconds going from street to R compounds; sounds like the group you ran w/ really didn't know how to drive. |
david handa (Davehanda)
Member Username: Davehanda
Post Number: 784 Registered: 5-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 7:18 pm: | |
As my good friend Steve Jenkins is often quoted: "Porsches suck, Ferraris Rule!" "Woohoo, I'm coocoo for coco puffs!" Okay it's funnier when he does it... :-) |
Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27
Post Number: 871 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 7:14 pm: | |
I'm sure Boxters are great cars. I was just disappointed with the final body design compared to the concept. I thought that every bit that gave it an exotic-looking flair was left off of the production model. |
Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 1671 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 6:49 pm: | |
Yeah, I'm curious about that, too, Mitch. My best there on street tires in the M3 is 1:28.xx. I can run mid 1:29's all day long. Haven't done it with R-compounds there in the M3 yet. Mitch, sounds like those Boxsters were particularly poorly driven...and you are also a good, smooth driver in a very well-sorted car that has a 180 HP advantage. 3 seconds at that track is a lot. As usual, some (Boxster) drivers spent a lot of $$$ on bling (R compounds) before learning how to drive; others (like Mitch) learn to drive first! |
Mark McKenzie (Redcar)
Junior Member Username: Redcar
Post Number: 144 Registered: 4-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 6:32 pm: | |
Hey Mitch, Was that a PCA event? At MSR, what lap times are you running with your 355 on S03's? Mark |
Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
New member Username: Keith_maxwell
Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 3:20 pm: | |
I owned a 98 boxster. It was the first new Porsche I'd owned. Steering feel is good, very comfortable for long rides and surprisingly roomy trunk. That's all the nice things I can think to say about it. Likely the most boring sportscar I ever owned. Six months later I traded it for an M Roadster and never missed it. |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4249 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 3:05 pm: | |
i would easily waive my rights to bear children, to own a Porsche - even a Boxster...! Of course, we all know that the only way to go, if you're gonna buy a Porsche, is to buy the 962 CR or the Carrera GT... |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 498 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 3:04 pm: | |
Slopenose Audi? Not really. I don't think there's anything particularly wrong with them. As mentioned in this thread they do handle real well. They're a fun tossable car. Just don't expect to win any races of any form with the car. The S might get you into competitive territory, but if you want to really get the Porsche experience you have to go with the 996 (don't know about the Cayenne since I've never driven it...Rijk?). You can get some of the air cooled 993s for the price of some of these Boxsters. A much better choice if you ask me. Cheers |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 679 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 2:59 pm: | |
"what's wrong with the porsche boxster?" Well, for one thing, the "look" like Porsche Boxters!!!!! Last weekend at MSR, I was running my F355B on S03s. There were 3 boxters there all running Kumho v700 or victoracer v700s. I was 3 seconds a lap faster on street tires than the boxters. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 678 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 2:59 pm: | |
"what's wrong with the porsche boxster?" Well, for one thing, the "look" like Prosche Boxters!!!!! Last weekend at MSR, I was running my F355B on S03s. There were 3 boxters there all running Kumho v700 or victoracer v700s. I was 3 seconds a lap faster on street tires than the boxters. |
Fred (I Luv 4REs) (Iluv4res)
Member Username: Iluv4res
Post Number: 401 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 1:15 pm: | |
I had one. The new "S" is a nice car. The older ones are a little underpowered. They handle great though!! Be careful of rear main seal leaks! This goes for all Porsches! There's no official recall, but they are constantly changing engines. |
P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic
Post Number: 274 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:53 pm: | |
There is a reason they are nicknamed: A slope Nose Audi. |
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Advanced Member Username: Mlemus
Post Number: 4807 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:31 pm: | |
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Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 915 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:28 pm: | |
What; they were looking for husbands? I hate the Boxter. It looks great, handles great, is affordable and very reliable. What the hell kind of a car is that???? ;>) |
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1
Post Number: 1813 Registered: 7-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:25 pm: | |
The husband of a girl that works for me went to his first 'Porsche Club' event last week. He doesn't have a Porsche, he just likes cars. He was totally disgusted, said it was 75% women and none of them wanted to talk about cars! |
Drstranglove (Drstranglove)
Member Username: Drstranglove
Post Number: 402 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:20 pm: | |
I learned to drive a stick shift on one!!!!! DrS |
Dennis in SE PA (Dennis_in_se_pa)
New member Username: Dennis_in_se_pa
Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:19 pm: | |
I have one. I like it. Don't knock 'em unless you have driven one. They are pretty amazing. |
Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360
Post Number: 1251 Registered: 8-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:15 pm: | |
I think it's a nice runabout. Unfortunately, I see it EVERYWHERE around here. |
TomD (Tifosi)
Advanced Member Username: Tifosi
Post Number: 3734 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:10 pm: | |
ot - who said anything is wrong with them - not terribly powerful but prob fun - everyone and their mother has one |
James Angle (Jimangle)
New member Username: Jimangle
Post Number: 45 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 23, 2003 - 12:07 pm: | |
Guys, I know it's not a ferrari, but what's wrong with the porsche boxster? It seems like a fun car to have. |