| Author | Message | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 538 Registered: 4-2002 |
AS Gerald said. I had actually seen the advertisment in FML for months. However the ad did not go into much detail and for whatever reason I never inquired about the car. I seemed to talk to everyone who had a Daytona for sale but Mark. Then suddenly my E-type sold, some business expansion efforts began paying dividends and I was seriously looking for a Daytona. I had met Gerald about 10 years ago when considering starting an automotive focused fine art print business (an idea ultimatly abandoned as too risky). I decided to give Gerald a call to talk Daytonas a bit knowing he literally "wrote the book" on them. He suggested an early Euro car had some distinct advantages such as less weight over the nose and overall. He also suggested I call Mark as he knew this car and it was very nice.... and of coarse local. I did. Mark and I met.... I was floored by the condition and history of the car and by Marks fanatical upkeep and maintenance routine. The rest is history. Let me make a little side comment. Gerald did not in any way "push" this car. He simply told me he knew it was nice and that Mark took good care of it. I do not know Gerald well and had not spoken to him in many years since our first meeting. However I can tell you he is a very gracious and generous individual with his time. 10 years ago when I met him, I was some young kid with dreams of riches who was begging for information about a particular Ferrari GTO. Gerald invited me to his home/office, devoted an amazing amount of time to showing me around and teaching me about that car and Ferrari history in general. His archives and knowledge simply blew me away and his active effort to help me with no motivation other than just being a nice guy left a lasting impression. He even took me for a thrilling ride in his AMAZING Tojeiro racecar! Gerald is part of the reason my passion for Ferraris grew stronger at a time when I did not have two nickels to rub together! Richard: Your Dino is gorgeous! If you have not parted with it yet, why not drive it up this weekend and we can take them both out for some fun! I have never driven a 246.... if you have never driven a Daytona perhaps there is a bit of seat time trading to be done! In any event I would love to show you the car and spend some time playing with it. Heck, thats what I will be doing anyhow! Gerald.... are you going to the party/swapmeet that TRutlands is having next month? I would love to get a picture of you with my car. | ||
| Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
Junior Member Username: Ferrmktltr Post Number: 65 Registered: 5-2003 |
Car was Dr. Mark Gronsbell's S/N 12775 and has been advertised in the Ferrari Market Letter since July 2002. | ||
| Richard Gilmore (Astuteinv)
New member Username: Astuteinv Post Number: 11 Registered: 1-2003 |
Hey Terry, I think I have sold my Dino and I am on my next quest for another vintage Ferrari in pristine condition. I can't believe you bought that here in Atlanta. Was that Arthur Montgomery's Daytona? How did you find it?? Would love to see it. I am in Buckhead off W. Paces. Richard | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 537 Registered: 4-2002 |
Coachie... The battery is an Optima. The PO put this in because its sealed and will never leak, plus its over 800 CCA. HE also installed the cut off switch. The battery hold down is a custom setup to fit the physically smaller battery but still attach to the factory points. It would not be a big deal to put together. I have all the factory battery hold down parts and stuff, but like the safty of a sealed unit. No leaky nasty battery crap... Then again you know I'm not a concours show car kinda guy. My car also has a remote Halon fire system installed. When you can ID a weekend that looks good for you, let me know! I'm sure if we plan a week or two in advance we can get a decent number of guys together. | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 282 Registered: 5-2002 |
Looking at your photos Terry, i wondered what type of battery you have> I noticed you are able to install the battery holder and the quick battery disconnect...I need one of those. As for the ride...let me finish with my second son's wedding, vacation at the beach etc...then we will discuss... | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 528 Registered: 4-2002 |
Gorgeous car coachie! Let me know when you want to come down for a drive. We should put together an all day Saturday mountain drive! Terry | ||
| Augustine J. Staino (Azzuro328)
New member Username: Azzuro328 Post Number: 34 Registered: 4-2003 |
Terry, Congratulations on the car! I am a big fan of the Daytonas and, in particular, the ones with the plexiglass covers. All the best of luck with it! -Regards, Augustine Staino | ||
| Bill Sawyer (Wsawyer)
Member Username: Wsawyer Post Number: 834 Registered: 2-2002 |
VERY impressive Terry! I can't wait to see it in person. | ||
| Kirk Stevenson (Miuraguy)
New member Username: Miuraguy Post Number: 16 Registered: 5-2002 |
No chance to get photos with my Miura and the Daytona together. My Miura has a steady leak in the header tank...so it'll be a while before I get it back on the road. However, I had THE most amazing ride and drive in Terry's Daytona! First of all it's a nearly perfect example...probably a 1- on the SCM scale. The car handles like a dream, has no perceptible rattles or shakes and really pulls. I downshifted from fifth to fourth floored it and went from 75mph to 110 mph in no time. All the while, the engine is breathing and singing its powerfully sweet note! What a great ride! Two thumbs up on the excitement meter! Thanks, Terry. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1007 Registered: 10-2001 |
kirk , thanks  Im drooling in anticipation ! | ||
| Ton Visser (Lion315)
Member Username: Lion315 Post Number: 580 Registered: 12-2002 |
Congratulations Terry, You did the right thing! Ton | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 279 Registered: 5-2002 |
    here are some more....wow..what an ordeal computers are | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 278 Registered: 5-2002 |
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| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 277 Registered: 5-2002 |
am not sure how to post I have a whole set of photos in a folder that dont know how to download her...help... | ||
| Kirk Stevenson (Miuraguy)
New member Username: Miuraguy Post Number: 14 Registered: 5-2002 |
Andrew, I'll do it as soon as possible...and will post the pics. Kirk | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1006 Registered: 10-2001 |
Oh that would be nice ! Kirk take your Miura to Terry's house and take some pics for us !! | ||
| Kirk Stevenson (Miuraguy)
New member Username: Miuraguy Post Number: 13 Registered: 5-2002 |
Terry, I know where you live and I am coming for a drive...and not just in the passenger seat! Get her warmed up for me....Kirk | ||
| Alex Papas (Alexpapas)
New member Username: Alexpapas Post Number: 18 Registered: 2-2003 |
Rijk Is that an Enzo in the background? | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5014 Registered: 12-2000 |
Congrats Terry, that's just awesome. I almost have a little tear. Makes me happy to see all the passion out there for these classic beautiful machines. I can't wait til I have my chance. | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 231 Registered: 1-2002 |
Photo Kenny Herman  | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 584 Registered: 11-2002 |
Nice Andrew! I love Borranis. One of the reasons I'm getting a classic next! Beautiful car. Cheers | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1005 Registered: 10-2001 |
Nop Chris , the red one behind is a 275 GTB/2 .  | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4274 Registered: 8-2002 |
That's so awesome...! Terry, congratulations, this is really cool... Please keep us posted... This rocks... | ||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 101 Registered: 8-2002 |
Congratulations, Terry - now drive the hell out of it! | ||
| William Badurski (Billb)
Junior Member Username: Billb Post Number: 186 Registered: 6-2001 |
Terry, Congrats. If you remove the seats (4 allen bolts each) you can access the four trim screws that hold the console down. Removing the console allows access to the parking brake pawl. They are a bit difficult to find, but a Fiat 124 Spider handbrake is the same so you can boneyard this part for next to nothing and use the parts. It's an easy fix. The bumper question regarding the silver car is a result of the USA specs I believe. The bumper height on USA cars in front is lower than the Euros. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 550 Registered: 11-2002 |
I like them all! Including that Porsche Turbo in the background! Hehehe Cheers | ||
| Chris A. (Asianbond)
Junior Member Username: Asianbond Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2002 |
Hey Andrew, nice Daytona! But I'm actually more interested in the red one behind it, is it a NART? | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1431 Registered: 10-2002 |
Gerald I don't know. I kind of like the patina of a hammered on knockoff. I look at the dents in the ones on my MK-IV and think of the people who put them there. Carrol Smith, Phil Remmington, Max Kelly, Charlie Agaipou... | ||
| Armen Gugasian (Ag512bbi)
New member Username: Ag512bbi Post Number: 37 Registered: 6-2002 |
Terry, Congrats. You bought one of the best FERRARIS EVER!!!!!! Definitely my favorite. Have fun..... | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Intermediate Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1001 Registered: 10-2001 |
Maybe they are for the brakes ? A bit like on Porsche RSR .. | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 230 Registered: 1-2002 |
Andrew, I dont know what that duct is for. More cooling is hardly what the car needs. It never overheats as it is. Rijk | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 1000 Registered: 10-2001 |
Rijk , i never noticed that :o !! I'll ask my dad although im sure he never noticed it either ! Maybe for cooling reason ? Do you know what that is ?  | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 229 Registered: 1-2002 |
Andrew, Why are the bumpers lowered in the front? I have never seen that. Rijk | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 996 Registered: 10-2001 |
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| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 228 Registered: 1-2002 |
I don't have many pictures here, and tomorrow I'm off to Europe.    | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 995 Registered: 10-2001 |
Terry , your car is magnificent ! Here some pics of my dad's Daytona but with the borranis  .      | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 227 Registered: 1-2002 |
Jim I have the spinners too and not the nuts. The problem with the 9"=ers is that the wheel is so deep that you cannot reach the spinners very well. The wrench tool comes with two extentions, one for the nut and one for the spinner. Rijk | ||
| Gerald L. Roush (Ferrmktltr)
New member Username: Ferrmktltr Post Number: 40 Registered: 5-2003 |
Personally I would (and do) refrain from using any hammer on knockoffs. There are several forms of wrenches that will work on eared knockoffs. The one I use on my 1953 race car is a bit clumsy to carry around in the car, being almost three feet long, so a proper (NOT lead) hammer is carried for emergencies. | ||
| Paul Loussia (Bumboola)
New member Username: Bumboola Post Number: 48 Registered: 3-2003 |
Magnificenza! | ||
| Me Myself (Kid_enzoz)
New member Username: Kid_enzoz Post Number: 30 Registered: 4-2003 |
I love that! Such a beautiful car... and a fabulous motor! Love the dash and gauges in the Daytona too... one of my favorite... | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1429 Registered: 10-2002 |
Rijk The euro cars have knockoff spinners with ears that you do "Knock Off" with a hammer. The US cars have wheel nuts which take a wrench. Spinner type knock offs were outlawed in the US in 67 but some euro cars slipped in. Look at the pics of my P4 and you'll see how big those knockoff ears got. The lead hammer which comes with a car with knockoffs can mar the knockoffs whereas the Snap on dead blow won't. Best Jim | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 523 Registered: 4-2002 |
I tried to shoot a few more photos today, but they really didnt come out well. Shadows and the red in the photos is not how the car appears in real. Its the correct Ferrari red, no orange like the pictures. Im certainly no photographer.... Lets see more photos of other Daytonas! Rijk and coachi... post those pics! I have wanted to see more photos of the silver Daytona. Post those pics!     | ||
| Robert McNair (Rrm)
Member Username: Rrm Post Number: 367 Registered: 5-2002 |
Wow. Good for you Terry! | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 226 Registered: 1-2002 |
Terry, The 9" look the best. Jim, You never get these off with a hammer. I bought the special torque wrench from Stainless steel brake co. Rijk | ||
| stephen r chong (Ethans_dad)
Member Username: Ethans_dad Post Number: 278 Registered: 3-2002 |
Congratulations Terry, It's so nice to see lifelong dreams reached; thanks for sharing. Enjoy your beautiful Daytona, and be sure to keep us posted on the wonderful details! Steve | ||
| Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member Username: Rijk365gtb4 Post Number: 225 Registered: 1-2002 |
Terry Finally........................ Rijk | ||
| Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888 Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2003 |
What is that? A mustang? How much does it cost? Just kidding, I just read the "What is the most popular question asked about your car?" thread. Beautiful car! Congratulations! | ||
| Dr. I. M. Ibrahim (Coachi)
Member Username: Coachi Post Number: 273 Registered: 5-2002 |
Nice car Terry. Enjoy. I took some pictures of mine this morning...if you want to see it...email me. Enjoyed meeting you last Saturday. | ||
| Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Junior Member Username: Cmhorner17 Post Number: 148 Registered: 4-2002 |
What a SWEET ride Terry! Drive it and enjoy it. Congragulations | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1424 Registered: 10-2002 |
Terry Get yourself an orange Snap On plastic covered dead blow hammer for those. It works great and won't mar the knockoffs. Best Jim | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 952 Registered: 9-2001 |
If you have any tech questions, consult JRV asap! No one knows these cars better than him. Looks great! Congratulations on your new purchase. | ||
| Eric Vartanian (Evartanian)
Junior Member Username: Evartanian Post Number: 195 Registered: 3-2002 |
Sweet ass! Congrats Terry! | ||
| PeterS (Peters)
Member Username: Peters Post Number: 514 Registered: 1-2003 |
VERY nice! Enjoy and drive safe | ||
| Vince (Manatee)
Junior Member Username: Manatee Post Number: 222 Registered: 6-2002 |
Congratulations, Terry - that is one fine car. The previous owner was very meticulous. | ||
| John A. Suarez (Futureowner)
Member Username: Futureowner Post Number: 657 Registered: 3-2002 |
Daytona Comp eh? Jim Spiro used to have Carrol Shelby's comp coupe down here in New Orleans a few years ago. My Classic Car came down to film a segment of it. Terry, How about a before and after pic of the odometer this weekend. Let's see you put some miles on that beauty!!! | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1127 Registered: 12-2001 |
Enjoy. Truly a wolf in shark's clothing. | ||
| Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne Post Number: 141 Registered: 3-2003 |
Best wishes for a trooper-free ownership experience. The euro version really looks neat. Absolutely Beautiful. | ||
| Dennis in SE PA (Dennis_in_se_pa)
New member Username: Dennis_in_se_pa Post Number: 30 Registered: 5-2003 |
WOW! Very Nice! | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 521 Registered: 4-2002 |
James, Knock offs. No wheels nuts. I'll shoot more pics tomorrow when its sunny out. I gotta get the silly parking brake fixed, then I'm gonna drive it all day! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1423 Registered: 10-2002 |
Terry Does it have spinners or wheel nuts? Best Jim | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 507 Registered: 11-2002 |
OK, because of Andrew, my envy meter has gone off the scale. I'd fly wherever it was just to take a look at it. One of my all time favorites...Daytona Competition Coupe. Sniff sniff... Cheers | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 990 Registered: 10-2001 |
OMG ! Amazing !! thanks a lot for the info ! A daytona comp !! Now this must sound soo loud !! Cant wait for september !! | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 359 Registered: 4-2003 |
Awesome!!! way to go. Vincent | ||
| Barry Wolinsky (308gtb)
Member Username: 308gtb Post Number: 509 Registered: 2-2002 |
Beautiful, Terry! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1421 Registered: 10-2002 |
Andrew Comp Daytona Coupe. Terry Take some pics for us on those mountian roads! Best Jim | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 988 Registered: 10-2001 |
is it a Ferrari ? I know he was looking at a fast Porsche also but something very scary.. | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1420 Registered: 10-2002 |
It's one of these with bigger tires and #'s on it... Very Nice. | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 986 Registered: 10-2001 |
James , i have been talking with him on the phone about some possible cars , what is it ?? OMG ! , i have to wait until september to come to NY , i have a law internship during summer ! Longest summer ever ! | ||
| James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis Post Number: 1418 Registered: 10-2002 |
Very Very Beautiful. Never forget that Dan Gurney and Brock Yates drove of of these from NYC to La in 33 hours! These cars are for driving. BTW Andrew I think you're going to come home soon there a new addition to the family. Best Jim | ||
| Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
Member Username: Amenasce Post Number: 983 Registered: 10-2001 |
Plexis !!! The best look !! MORE PICS !!! oh and Bravo!! | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 505 Registered: 11-2002 |
Plexi headlight covers!! The best look! Congrats! Cheers | ||
| Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member Username: 4re_gt4 Post Number: 1363 Registered: 4-2002 |
Ok, the envy meter just went off scale. | ||
| L. Wayne Ausbrooks (Lwausbrooks)
Intermediate Member Username: Lwausbrooks Post Number: 1707 Registered: 8-2002 |
Congratulations Terry! | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 518 Registered: 4-2002 |
Well... crazy or not, Ive realised a childhood dream and bought a Daytona! I picked it up today. Its a Euro 1969 365GTB/4. Ferrari red with black interior. It was the 51st Daytona built. SN 12775. The car has lived here in Atlanta since 1975 with the same owner. I got all books and records including the factory build sheets and all maintenance receipts for 25+ years. It had a complete engine rebuild 12K miles ago. Its got factory competition pistons, ported and polished heads, comp. spec cams, lightened flywheel, and tons of other machining work that was done. Everything was balanced to within a gram. Its got updated ignition with optical pickups and twin MSD boxes. It has the Euro headers and exhaust. Prior owner claims it should be good for 400hp. I sure cant argue from how it drives! The transaxle was totally rebuilt 1000 miles ago including new clutch and the entire braking system is less than 500 miles old. Its got stainless exhaust, 7.5" front and 9" rear campy wheels with AVS intermediates. Pirkle paint is awesome, interior has been all redone, its GORGEOUS!!! This thing pulls like a freight train! The torque is amazing. At about 3000 rpm it begins to wail and pull hard. By 4000 is really pulling, shoving you back into the seat. Just when your really getting impressed with the power and torque.... you hit 5500rpm and it gets CRAZY. I LOVE driving this thing! I can honestly say at this point its everything I always dreamed of! I also pulled too hard on the emergency brake... and i believe it skipped a notch on the ratchet. The brake is now dragging and making a horrible noise when driving at low speed. Anyhow, Ill get that fixed this evening and tomorrow its to the mountains I go!!!! See seperate post on Atlanta area Mountain Drive for Saturday!   |