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ELI (Titanium360)
Member
Username: Titanium360
Post Number: 435
Registered: 4-2002
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 7:56 am: | |
John. post some pics |
John Burke (John_b)
New member
Username: John_b
Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 6:54 am: | |
Thanks for the input guys!
I got the V1 and the remote kit and mounted it last night. One question: Has anyone found a good wire to snip into that is activated by the ignition key so I dont have to turn the detector on and off every time I use the car? I was able to do this on my BMW and it works great but don't know which wire to tap into with the 360. The overhead lights are not "keyed" i.e. they have power even when the key is off. I simply tapped directly into the battery in the passenger footwell. There are tons of other wires down there but I dont have a wiring diagram and dont really want to go by trial and error on my new baby. |
Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member
Username: Kennedy
Post Number: 314
Registered: 3-2002
| | Posted on Thursday, May 29, 2003 - 10:08 am: | |
I have a V1 in my 360... works great... and I love the position.
The newer, somewhat thinner models of V1 fit perfectly above the rear view mirror, to the left of the mirror attachment arm. In that position, I don't bother with the remote display kit, as the display would be real hard to see from outside the low car anyway. And the detector is not very noticeable from the front since it kind of just blends in with the rear view mirror. And for forward detection, higher is always better... and it works fine for rear protection as well. Finally, its position is very close to my ear, and easy to reach when muting.
I have used the hardwire kit... simply slip the wires in where the headliner meets the windshield and over to the overhead lights to tap power. I've done similar in my other cars as well.
Brian
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Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member
Username: Bighead
Post Number: 111
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:12 pm: | |
Oops, the remainder got snipped:
As it stands, I've got the V1 hardwired in two vehicles (thanks, Charles!!!). If I need to park in an area where I don't feel completely safe, I (a) unplug the power wire from the V1, like a phone jack, and (b) slide it out of the mount (or remove the mount too. 3 seconds. And I save at least $500. And I can take it with me on trips with a rental car, or use one detector for multiple vehicles. Still, I suppose there are those drivers who just really enjoy a simple, installed radar solution, even if it doesn't provide as much information/warning -- the ease of living with a fully-installed detector makes up for it, I guess, in their minds.
That's my $.02....
vty,
--Dennis
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Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member
Username: Bighead
Post Number: 110
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:11 pm: | |
See the following post I made to the F-list some time ago re: why, IMHO, the Passport SR1/SRX system is still inferior to the V1.
vty,
--Dennis
-----Original Message-----
From: Dennis Liu
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 2:45 PM
Subject: RE: Valentine One Source?
Brian wrote:
> Have any of y'all heard of the Passport SRX? I don't all the particulars,
> but I believe it has 3 sensors for the front of the car and 1 for the
rear.
> It can detect and reflect the radar signal essentially making you
> "invisible". As I said, I haven't completely studied the info, but we are
> selling the hell outta them. I think they're $1900 installed.
> I can find out more if anyone is interested.
Charles added:
I think finding out more is an absolute necessity. It can't make you
invisible if it's not an active jammer, and active jammers are illegal (FCC
unlicensed radar transmitter), so I doubt they would be marketing it or you
would be selling it - too much liability.
Is it just a fancier K-40 type with the multiple antennas?
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The Passport SRX is, as you point out, a K-40 type detector with multiple antennas (but not even as good as a K40!! See below). It is NOT a _radar_ jammer; what it calls its "laser shifter" is, in fact, a laser jammer -- though they don't come out and say that in so many words. While radar jammers violate FCC regulations, the FCC does not regulate laser usage (that's up to the FDA), so jamming lasers is not illegal. The SRX is a radar detector, laser detector, and laser jammer.
Escort also sells the laser jamming portion separately, for $500 (MSRP, installed) -- the ZR3. The MSRP for the full Passport SRX, installed, is $1500. The MSRP for the Passport SR1 is $1000, installed. What is the SR1? Well, the laser jammer alone is $500, the full SRX is $1500, but the SR1 is $1000 -- take a guess. Yup, it's just the radar and laser detector portion of the system, without the jammer gear.
If you browse around the Escort site, you can find links to some positive reviews, but there are NO reviews that compare the SR1/SRX to the Valentine 1.
Here's where the SR1/SRX totally FAILS, in my judgment; it has modules for front and rear LASER detection, but only one module (front) for RADAR protection. The number of Laser hits from the rear are incredibly, incredibly rare, but radar from the rear is not uncommon. So, how does the Passport protect you from the rear?? Using only one radar module, mounted somewhere in the front grille area, with all that metal shielding it from radar signals from the rear??? If you take a look at their literature, Passport relies on REFLECTIONS from radar signals from the rear -- reflections that bounce off trees, signs, overpasses, trucks, etc., to alert you to police behind you. Great....
Also, while Passport has finally gotten around to building a display that can show the NUMBER of radar signals, it still does not tell you WHERE the signals are coming from -- a critical feature, IMHO.
As for cost, $1900 or $1500 or even $1000 is ridiculous, IMHO. If I really wanted a mounted detector, I'd get a V1 with the hidden display module, and hit the V1 box somehere in the cabin -- one guy did it in a box of tissues, another guy did it in his center-high-mounted-rear-brake-light box. You can get the remote display embedded in your rearview mirror for a really trick installation too. And it'd still be WAY less than the SRX or the SR1. If I lived in a jurisdiction with signficiant Laser problems, I might consider the ZR3 jammer system, but I'd also look at the much cheaper license-plate laser jammer systems.
Lastly, I don't know where the hell you'd mount a K40 or SR1/SRX on some modern mid/rear engined cars. The front radar module can't be blocked by metal; I'm trying to picture where on my 355 it would go. Maybe, on Ferraris, they mount them behind the bumper. Also, the HIGHER the receiver, the more effective it is.
As it stands, I've got the V1 hardwired in two vehicles (thanks, Charle |
Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member
Username: Kzma
Post Number: 168
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 10:46 am: | |
The Escort SRX front and rear remote detector unit can be mounted very discreetly under the center console. It has laser capabilities. Has saved my ass twice already. |
Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member
Username: Toby91
Post Number: 175
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 8:54 am: | |
I tossed 2 K40's in the trash after they failed and aftr giving lackluster performance. |
Sebastian (Sjblaw)
New member
Username: Sjblaw
Post Number: 5
Registered: 3-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 7:42 am: | |
what about the K40? Has this sort of been abandoned for the V1 for better performance? Does anyone know if the K40 has laser as well now? And also rearward radar? |
Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member
Username: Toby91
Post Number: 174
Registered: 4-2001
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 7:02 am: | |
Check the archives for some pics of a neat detector installation within the clock/interior light module. I believe the silly clock was removed and a forward opening made. |
Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member
Username: Bighead
Post Number: 107
Registered: 2-2003
| | Posted on Wednesday, May 28, 2003 - 1:39 am: | |
The Valentine 1 is just the one piece box. You can get the remote display module, which relocates the lights and control knob, but the original V1 box still needs to be mounted somewhere, preferably high. Some people hide the V1 in a tissue box; others go more extreme and have a custom enclosure built for it (kills laser warning, but doesn't affect radar). The remote display module is then mounted elsewhere in the car.
If you don't live in VA or DC, don't worry about it. I just mount mine high up on the windshield, near the rear view mirror, and it can't be seen from outside without looking really hard. Just hardwire the power cord... should take less than 15 minutes. If I'm parking it somewhere, I can remove the V1 in less than 5 seconds and hide it or take it with me.
vty,
--Dennis |
John Burke (John_b)
New member
Username: John_b
Post Number: 1
Registered: 5-2003
| | Posted on Tuesday, May 27, 2003 - 9:23 pm: | |
I just got a 360 Modena last Thursday and already have my first speeding ticket in 7 years by Tuesday. I need to mount a remote Valentine radar detector like as in my other cars. It doesnt seem a windshield mount will be a good permanent solution. Does anyone on the board have any experience remotely mounting a V1 so it picks up signals from the front & rear? do you need to mount two seperate receivers? & where do you mount them?
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