| Author | Message | ||
| RICK ROMERO (Tr90)
Junior Member Username: Tr90 Post Number: 186 Registered: 4-2001 |
test | ||
| Peter Allen Dysert II (Peterd)
New member Username: Peterd Post Number: 6 Registered: 9-2002 |
If money and resale matter, the F1 market is stronger on both the 575M and the 360 and that is an answer. So the market has a perspective, it doesn't mean that it should be your decision, that's why there is a choice. This is not a debate about right or wrong. I purchased the F1 in both the 575 and the 360 because I am far from being an accomplished driver and the F1 package is more than just a transmission. It includes a battery of sensors that measure wheel speed, body yaw, acceleration, etc. far faster than a human mind can process information. So the F1 is more modern technology and that appeals to people like me. I have a different opinion than one of the other posters obviously, I think the 575 is even a better F1 platform than the 360, I own both cars in F1 and have driven both cars in 6 speeds. My son has the BMW version on his M3 and loves it as well. There are some things about the way BMW implemented the SMG that I like better than the Ferrari version. More on that if there is interest. Somewhere I have the link to a white paper published by Gertag I believe, on the future of this technology and I might be able to find it if someone wants it. | ||
| Shawn Cowan (Jeru)
New member Username: Jeru Post Number: 8 Registered: 1-2003 |
Here is some good reading on this topic. http://www.986host.com/albums/Jeru/ferrariarticle.jpg | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott Post Number: 148 Registered: 6-2001 |
9000 miles, clutch at 8000 had "essentially no wear" when a throwout bearing issue was addressed. "6 speeds save clutches." | ||
| Dr.John Gober (Drjohngober)
New member Username: Drjohngober Post Number: 34 Registered: 11-2002 |
8800 on my F1 tranny, but mine had to be rebooted and sensors re-aligned about 2K ago. | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Junior Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 234 Registered: 1-2003 |
What is everyone's clutch life in miles both F-1 and 6 speed? | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 699 Registered: 4-2002 |
"I have driven both and own an F1. I vote for the F1 any day." If (and this is a big if) you got twice as many miles on the clutch with the 6 speed compared to the F1, would yo still pick the F1? Say 10,000 miles F1 versus 20,000 miles 6 speed. | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 194 Registered: 1-2003 |
I have driven both and own an F1. I vote for the F1 any day. | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Junior Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 226 Registered: 1-2003 |
Great post- If only one 360 then a 6 speed. If you can have 2 360's then one of both! I love it. IF 2 360's would they both be red? | ||
| Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Member Username: Shelbee Post Number: 332 Registered: 12-2002 |
Since my pair of cars is reverse than Kuzi's , I have to swap the car with his, just to feel the difference in transmission  I definitely like F1 on the 360s | ||
| arthur chambers (Art355)
Intermediate Member Username: Art355 Post Number: 1823 Registered: 6-2001 |
If you're going to use the 360 in commuter traffic (I am) then the 6 speed is the way to go. If you're only going to drive it on weekends and track days, maybe the F1 is right. Art | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 374 Registered: 6-2002 |
The only right and true answer: ONE OF EACH! Seriously, I love both, Ferrari probally holds the pinnacle of both (gated shifter, pure sex! F1 system, do 60 in 4th, pull handle 3 times and STAND on brakes, you'll think you're Schui!) <latter is best with no cats and straight/tubi exhaust. Best! Ben. | ||
| J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff Post Number: 185 Registered: 2-2001 |
What about redheads with pouty lips? | ||
| Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
New member Username: Keith_maxwell Post Number: 31 Registered: 5-2003 |
Brunettes! ...my wife made me say that... | ||
| Lou B (Toby91)
Junior Member Username: Toby91 Post Number: 178 Registered: 4-2001 |
Not again! There are probably 1000 posts on this. Isn't it like deciding whether blonds or brunetts are better? | ||
| Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup Post Number: 689 Registered: 4-2002 |
I went out of my way to get a 6 speed F355B. | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott Post Number: 147 Registered: 6-2001 |
6 speed. Both have their pros and cons. | ||
| Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member Username: Kzma Post Number: 169 Registered: 3-2003 |
Vernon, thats the exact combo I have and couldn't agree with you more.........The 360 is great to throw around on the weekends and to "show off" in, and thus 6spd........the 575M is a great GT and just perfect for long distance cruising, thus the F1. | ||
| Vernon Hill (Vwh3rd)
Junior Member Username: Vwh3rd Post Number: 155 Registered: 1-2003 |
Although I do not own a 550 or 575 as Dr Shelbee does, I would have to disagre with the Doc. I think that the 360 (sports car) should always be 6 speed and the 575(GT) is perfect for the F-1 system | ||
| Dr. Shelbee (Shelbee)
Member Username: Shelbee Post Number: 328 Registered: 12-2002 |
F1 for 360 and 6 speed for 550 or 575M | ||
| J.D. Smythe (Jeff)
Junior Member Username: Jeff Post Number: 184 Registered: 2-2001 |
Michael I have owned the 360 in both the 6spd and the F1. I prefer the F1 much more. | ||
| David Stoeppelwerth (Racerdj)
Junior Member Username: Racerdj Post Number: 217 Registered: 1-2003 |
On this site there is a wealth of info on this debate. It all comes down to the person and type of driving they will do. Being an ex-racer (Vintage Formula Atlantic), all my past sports cars (12 Corvettes, 3Zr1's and ZO6) have been 6 speeds except two. I love a six speed and do not track my 360. If I lived and had to drive in major traffic everyday I sure I would lean towards the F-1. Perhaps the best advise is to wait for Eli to report back. I will always want to shift my own gears manually but that just me. | ||
| DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed Post Number: 4315 Registered: 8-2002 |
Ahem. Sickspeed. Definitely. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1256 Registered: 8-2001 |
Michael, I suggest you do a search of this topic on this site. It's a topic that's been debated to death and got rather heated on both sides. | ||
| Ernesto (T88power)
Intermediate Member Username: T88power Post Number: 1511 Registered: 2-2001 |
Oh my God! | ||
| Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member Username: Kzma Post Number: 166 Registered: 3-2003 |
If you are using it for anything else other than weekend pleasure runs, then you'd probably be happier with the F1. But for weekend warriors..........definitley a 6 spd! | ||
| Jay P. Ross (Eilig)
Junior Member Username: Eilig Post Number: 178 Registered: 8-2001 |
I've driven both and prefer the 6 speed. I enjoy the added driver involvement of a 6 speed, and the constant process of perfecting shifts and matching revs. I also feel like I have more control of the car with a 6 speed. But people's preferences on this topic will have a lot to do with the type of driving they do. If I spent more time on the track, I'd want an F1 tranny for certain. Likewise if I were in lots of stop and go traffic, I'd probably prefer an F1. But my driving is just weekend stuff in hardly any traffic. For that application, I really like the 6 speed. Of course my daily driver for the last 10 years has been a 6 speed, so obviously that's got a little something to do with it as well. Either way, you won't be disappointed. | ||
| ELI (Titanium360)
Member Username: Titanium360 Post Number: 433 Registered: 4-2002 |
Michael, i just sold my 6 speed and should be getting my F1 by next week and will let you know. i honestly loved the 6 speed except it was dreadful in the N.Y area traffic. | ||
| michael Alpert (Taters)
New member Username: Taters Post Number: 7 Registered: 5-2003 |
On a 360 what do you prefer and why? |