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Eddie Lee (Lee168)
New member Username: Lee168
Post Number: 28 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 11:41 am: | |
Dennis, since you've stated that "status" isn't what you're looking for, I would have to say that the NSX is a truly a fabulous all around car to drive. Its balance, poise, handling, and reliability are excellent. I just wish more power was available out of the stock motor, although the delivery of it was smooth and refined. I had 2 in the past (92' 5 speed and 99' Alex Zanardi edition #7) and gave in to the allurement of the "Prancing Horse." Not regreting this change, however, I would pick the NSX as the best daily "exotic" out there. I'm waiting patiently to see the next generation NSX hopefully soon! |
Mike Dawson (Miked)
Junior Member Username: Miked
Post Number: 97 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 10:43 am: | |
No doubt about it, Honda always has had top level engineering in everything that it has made. For those non-greybeard F-chatters, Honda's early F1 cars (as well as F1 bikes) in the mid 60's were engineering marvels. Ear splitting sound even compared to their competition. The link below is a sound byte of the RA 272 F1 car, a sidewinder 1.5 liter V12! http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/sort/ra272.html For 2 wheel F1 the RC-174 is the ultimate in exotic machinery (6 cyl. 350 cc). http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/sort/rc174.html More cars and bikes are at Honda's web site: http://www.honda.co.jp/SoundofHonda/index.html Your system may ask you to download a Japanese enabler before getting to SoundofHonda but just "cancel" it and the web site will still work. For maximum effect, full volume is required!
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neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member Username: 95spiderneal
Post Number: 150 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 9:57 am: | |
my business partner has had 3 nsx over last 9 years as daily drivers. very reliable and he obviously kept going back for more so he was satisfied (has maserati spider now). ive driven them and they are quick and easy to drive but overall driving feel is more similar to a mid line japan car like celica or eclipse than fcar or even pcar. ive always thought nsx would be a great platform to make a tuner special with suspension, body kit, wheels/tires, engine, etc but too boring as stock. |
Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study
Post Number: 478 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 9:40 am: | |
Dennis, I've had both the NSX and the 308. If you go to nsxprime.com it is full of guys that sold thier 355,348,308 to buy a NSX. On F-chat you will find guys that sold the NSX to buy the 355,348,308 For me the only question is how many days a week are you going to drive it? Buy the NSX if you want to drive 7 days a week. Get the 308 if you want a cooler weekend car, and have another daily driver. |
Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 728 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 9:32 am: | |
Mark, It�s not about "status factor" it�s about "passione". Maybe Hondas have nice technology and everything but it clearly lacks all the mystique and fascination every single Ferrari represents. I am in no way looking down on Honda drivers but nevertheless I am happy to own a Ferrari instead of a Honda! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller |
Mark (Study)
Member Username: Study
Post Number: 477 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 9:01 am: | |
Jens, Driving a "Honda" is a very cool thing for anyone that knows of racing. When Honda got into F1 and turned its engineers lose, they kicked Ferraris ass. Honda is an amazing company at the top of the engineering world. I'm sorry, but I'm turned-on by technology. Not a fan of "status factor". So from an engineering point of view "Honda" is just as impressive as Ferrari. I am quite thrilled with what Honda is doing now. They may have turned their genius from F1 racing to the less glamorous Fuel-cells and Green cars... but again- saying your just driving a Honda is the highest compliment in the pure engineering world.
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Jens Haller (Jh280774)
Member Username: Jh280774
Post Number: 727 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 4:35 am: | |
Perhaps it may sound arrogant which isn�t ment in any way here from me BUT: At the end of the day the 3X8 owners sit in a Ferrari while the NSX owners still drive a Honda! That�s the plain truth I am afraid! Con saluti cordialissimi, Jens Haller P.S. Porsche is another deal for me! |
911 Fan (911fan)
New member Username: 911fan
Post Number: 1 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 4:06 am: | |
I've owned lots of 911s, an NSX, and currently have both a 911 and a 360. If I could have just one sports car, I'd choose the 911, with the NSX coming a very close second. In my opinion, 911s and NSXs are far more refined and FAR better engineered than Ferraris -- finesse vs. brute force, if you will. That said, driving a Ferrari is truly a sublime experience (especially a 360 with a gated shifter!). You should own one if you can, at least once in your life. Just make sure you also have a 911 or NSX which you can enjoy every day without having to worry about all the things you'll worry about in the Ferrari! |
Chris A. (Asianbond)
Junior Member Username: Asianbond
Post Number: 131 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 1:39 am: | |
Was a long time P-guy, bought a NSX, tried it, sold it after two weeks, bought a 348, best sports car I ever owned, way different ballpark than NSX, selling my 348 now (still love the car) to get into a 308. Screw praticality, do it because you only live once. |
Dr. Ken Lee (Kenster888)
Junior Member Username: Kenster888
Post Number: 65 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 1:29 am: | |
The NSX is awesome. Consider getting one as daily car. Get a 93 or newer, the early ones had some problems. A long time ago I traded a MR2 supercharged for a 944 turbo. But thinking back now I rather have the MR2. Mmmmmm.... maybe I should get the new MR2. |
Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Junior Member Username: Cmhorner17
Post Number: 165 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 1:06 am: | |
I guess at the end of the day, I came away from the NSX saying "That was a LOT of fun" and came away from the Ferrari saying "I would sell my soul for one". Neither is a penalty box by any stretch of the imagination, but the Ferrari just "feels" more exciting. |
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd
Post Number: 382 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:52 am: | |
The NSX by the numbers is probally a better car all around, and certinly 5x as reliable as any 3x8. You really can drive it to work and have only one car. Yes, it's an exotic, anyone who's pushed one on the track must know that. But, NOTHING is a Ferrari! You just have to drive both, and you will know. I don't care if you're just holding 4grand in second gear, at constant speed, nothing sounds like a Ferrari, and no other car has that gated shifter! If the Ferrari expierence is something you lust for, you will NOT be satisfied by any other car, I promise you this! Best! Ben. |
G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
Junior Member Username: Wfo_racer
Post Number: 115 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:19 am: | |
I put 85,000 miles on my NSX in 4 years. The front end was a little soft so we put shocks,springs,adjustable bar. Huge improvement. Tracked the car semi monthly, drove it like a rental car all the time. Never burned any oil, the AC kept me cold .Stock stereo stunk,upgraded to aftermarket. Navigation system not offered. What, sports car drivers never get lost?Another benni of a Nav is it records top speed(no BS). Comfortable ride in most conditions.Good fit and finish. Is it a Ferrari nope,is it supposed to be a Ferrari nope. Not fair to compare older technology (308,328,and to some extent 348 )to relatively newer technology(even though the NSX design is about 12 years old). The NSX for the most part will be less costly to maintain and repair if you do need work. Gearbox is not notchy compared to early generation Ferrari 3 series boxes. My 360 has been a fun car , it has also been a giant pain in the sphincter . Love having warranties on new cars .The 360 makes a bi-monthly trip to the dealer for various maladies.Keep in mind that I drive it like a rental car.I am planning on selling it before the warranty expires .Let the next guy deal with what's left of the car. Another thing after you are used to a Japanese car and for the most part all you do is put gas in it and change the oil going to a Ferrari will involve more labor on your part. One last thing the paint on the Acura is of a better quality than the older Ferrari's though I think the earlier cars had more lead which in theory should produce a better gloss. Don't go by my cars as I only wash them when they get really dirty. Buy what your drawn to but remember to have some cash reserves for tires and for service . Good luck. WFO |
Frederick Thomas (Fred)
Member Username: Fred
Post Number: 719 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Saturday, May 31, 2003 - 12:07 am: | |
Uh-oh, here we go with the soul thing again. For what it's worth I bought a 308QV because I have always wanted a Ferrari and had my heart set on a 308. I did however drive the Nsx but choose the 308. I figured if I got the Nsx there would still be a nagging part of me wanting the Ferrari. I got the 308 thinking if it didn't work out I could at least say I tried it and then get the Nsx. That was 3 years ago and there is no way I would trade the 308 for an Nsx. Thats not a knock on the Nsx, its a great car. I just am very happy with the 308. |
Chris Horner (Cmhorner17)
Junior Member Username: Cmhorner17
Post Number: 162 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:54 pm: | |
I've driven a NSX and a 308GTS. The NSX is a heck of a lot of fun, as easy to drive as an Accord, makes nice noises, and has sweet styling. The 308 wasn't as quick, but felt more like a driving machine. It was more fun. It challenged you more to drive it right to get the most out of it. It's not anything I could begin to describe, but you could tell the Ferrari had "soul" by the sounds it made, and by the way everything worked together. The NSX is a better driving car, the Ferrari is a better drivers car. Drive em both, see which you prefer |
Yoshi Ace (Tiger_ace)
New member Username: Tiger_ace
Post Number: 4 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 11:53 pm: | |
I like NSX, too, and seriously looking to buy 328GTB now. I have driven both, and though NSX is easier to drive, lighter feel in shifting & handling. Maybe it's due to up-dated technology in mechanics. (I don't like the design of new NSX, though) To me, the difference in 328 & NSX is how they appeal to my heart over the time. First Ferrari I saw was 328 or 308, thus my image of Ferrari is 3X8. It left defite & absolute impression on me since then. You are interested in 3X8 & NSX for reason you know in your heart. Exotic cars are for a child in your heart. NSX depreciate more than 3X8. Again it is due to NSX is still in less than 10 year cycle, and 3X8 are over 10 (some are 20 years old now) year cycle (cars depreciate faster in first 5 years, and then slows down) I also like 246 Dino too. They are about $60K to 120K nowaday. We need to hurry!
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Dennis in SE PA (Dennis_in_se_pa)
New member Username: Dennis_in_se_pa
Post Number: 34 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 9:58 pm: | |
Good info Ken, thanks. |
Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn
Post Number: 942 Registered: 10-2001
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 9:51 pm: | |
My brother in law has an NSX and I love it. It's a civilized exotic (check with Arlie if it qualifies). The complaints are it's TOO civilized which to me is pointless. It's fast, quick, handles well, reliable and looks really cool. It lacks charm however so it's easy to see why some people would prefer something more like a 308 or 328 in spite of their shortcomings. I prefer my car as well over it but the NSX is a benchmark that Ferrari now competes with. |
Dennis in SE PA (Dennis_in_se_pa)
New member Username: Dennis_in_se_pa
Post Number: 33 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 9:47 pm: | |
Omar, Thanks for the reply. I am thinking long term here. I do not pretend to be a race car driver. I am looking at fun to drive/long term not to much $ lost. Even though the same NSX for the $ looks more modern I am leaning towards the classic 3X8. Actually I wish I could afford a 246 GTS! I still hope to get one of them some day! But by the time I think I can afford one they will be at $250K! |
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor
Post Number: 610 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 9:39 pm: | |
I have both, a NA2 NSX and a 328. The NSX is faster, sturdier, and handles far better. But I am selling it and keeping the 328, its just better. if you like NSXs, check NSXPrime.com |
Dennis in SE PA (Dennis_in_se_pa)
New member Username: Dennis_in_se_pa
Post Number: 32 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Friday, May 30, 2003 - 9:36 pm: | |
Other than the "status factor" which means nothing to me, how would you compare a 3x8 F-Car to the NSX's? Is Honda quality such a plus? I see 3x8 QV's for the same price as NSX-T's. I am setting myself up for serious flaming here (I am in sales, I can take it )but I am a P-car guy who has never driven an NSX or a 3X8. What is it that I don't know but am soon to find out? respects, dennis |