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'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 2815
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:13 pm:   

"Lower 1" is low. Pin the engine at redline (about 3000RPM) and you'll do maybe 10MPH...
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 228
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:10 pm:   

What? No 'Lowest 1'? :-)
'75 308 GT4 (Peter)
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Username: Peter

Post Number: 2813
Registered: 12-2000
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:01 pm:   

Here's what I normally encounter at work:

Low R
R
 5
 1 
 7
 3 
Low 1
Lower 1
 2
 6
 4
 8


Eaton-Fuller 10-speed commonly found in Kenworth's, Peterbuilts, Freightliners, etc... Non-syncronised too!

We also have a mobile crane that uses this shift pattern (two sticks):

Reverse 42
Forward 31


Remembering the Ferrari's after all of that is not a problem!
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 223
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:05 am:   

OUCH! Don where's the love man! :-)
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Senior Member
Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 5121
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:01 am:   

"Talk about really stupid........"

No more so then owning a 308GT4 :-)

Hans, you gotta stop giving me the ammo!
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1513
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:48 am:   

This can be a serious issue. My cars include:
Duesenberg 3 speed
P4 5 speed
Lola 5 speed
Mk-IV 4 speed
Maser FI
with varying patterns, syncro/nonsyncros,and pedal placement.
Before I drive any of them I do a "pre flight".
I sit for a bit and run through the gears and depress the pedals before I start off. I also note door and seatbelt release, and fire suspression. You have to be carefull as your subconcious retains a lot of memory that you revert to in a sudden stress situation.
If the new pattern is the only one you have to deal with I think it would be easier.
Best
Hans E. Hansen (4re_gt4)
Intermediate Member
Username: 4re_gt4

Post Number: 1449
Registered: 4-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:22 am:   

After long freeway trips in my company Pontiac (automatic), I find myself trying to heel-n-toe on the off ramp. Talk about really stupid........
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 340
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:49 am:   

Its called a 'dogleg' gearbox and nearly all great named supercars use them. It came from the racing era.
J R K (Kenyon)
Member
Username: Kenyon

Post Number: 339
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:48 am:   

Its called a 'dogleg' grearbox and nearly all great named supercars use them. It came from the racing era.
"The Don" (Mlemus)
Senior Member
Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 5117
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:10 am:   

Craig,

I completely understand. With the pedal offset so drastic on the Ferrari, I am always hitting the brake rather then the cluch on a regular car. I also find myself "smashing" the other cars clutch into the floorboard using the same pressure I use on the Ferrari.

Matt
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 222
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:05 am:   

TheDon,

I don't know how many times I've started out in 2nd in the Accord. :-) I now have two manuals and an automatic. So now I'm pressing in the 'clutch' on the automatic. Unfortunately hitting the brakes (thinking it is the clutch) at speed is not a fun event. :-)

"The Don" (Mlemus)
Senior Member
Username: Mlemus

Post Number: 5116
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:52 am:   

It took me about 1 week to fully adjust. Being it's my daily driver, when I get in a "regular shift patterned" car, I get all screwed up.

Matt
David C. (Worth_it)
Junior Member
Username: Worth_it

Post Number: 140
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:11 pm:   

No technical answer here -

You learn pretty quick after you make the shift to 2nd expecting 3rd doing 65mph + , Seriously, it does not take long to make the change. If you do make the mistake the car will let you know immediately.

Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 219
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:40 pm:   

I found it really simple to adjust to this pattern. It actually seems quite natural. My guess is that the 6th gear in the 6 speeds is not an overdrive but a useable gear that allows the engine to be geared so that it is really torquey at the low end while still being able to reach extreme top speeds.

Hopefully someone can give a better technical explanation.
Kendall Kim (Kenny)
New member
Username: Kenny

Post Number: 35
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:35 pm:   

How hard is it to adjust to the shift patterns of an older Ferrari if you learned to drive on a normal stick shift car??

R 2 4
1 3 5

I understand this shift pattern was designed for racing where 1st gear is just to get the car rolling. If this be the case, why did Ferrari revert back to the regular shift pattern on its later model 6 speeds?? Doesn't the old philosophy hold true on 6 speeds, besides, isnt 6th gear mostly for overdrive and cruising speeds??

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