| Author | Message | ||
| FABS (Caruso360)
New member Username: Caruso360 Post Number: 44 Registered: 5-2003 |
Bighead, Point well taken. I concur that Euro is pure-o. | ||
| Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member Username: Bighead Post Number: 133 Registered: 2-2003 |
FABS, I was (a) responding to Lloyd's comment about Euro v. US cars, and treatment by dealers, contained in this thread (read down the page), and (b) hoping to assuage the concerns of potential 360 buyers that buying a euro model is not the end of the world. vty, --Dennis | ||
| FABS (Caruso360)
New member Username: Caruso360 Post Number: 43 Registered: 5-2003 |
Yo Bighead, what's with your post. I thought we were talking 360 stuff. | ||
| Dennis (Bighead)
Junior Member Username: Bighead Post Number: 132 Registered: 2-2003 |
Lloyd wrote: >I just had the seatbelt recall on my 512TR and the dealer told me that when another customer came in with a Euro TR, it's serial number was not on the list (apparently only US cars on list), so they did not do the recall on this safety issue. ______________ Lloyd, the dealer is yanking your chain. What he told you was probably true, in that the European Testarossas are not covered by the recall, and accordingly, the dealership (and FNA) would not perform the recall on the car. BUT, and here's the big "but" - the recall was for the crappy crappy crappy automatic mouse-belt passive safety system, which were NOT installed in European spec TRs. Of course, if the Euro TR was converted to US spec, a passive belt assembly may have been installed. If the owner was wise, the first thing to have done after getting federalization papers would be to have the original belts REINSTALLED. If the Euro TR owner really pushed it with FNA, I'm sure that it WOULD be covered under the recall, as all of the passive belt assembly PARTS would have been bought from Ferrari, and it is those parts that are defective. There is NO WAY IN HELL that FNA would open theirselves up to a massive lawsuit should an injury occur with this car - they sold a defective safety item, were forced to recall it by the DOT, and then denied coverage? Forget it. So, Lloyd, what your dealer told you may all be true, but it's not quite the "whole" truth, IMHO. vty, --Dennis | ||
| john (Johnwto)
Junior Member Username: Johnwto Post Number: 92 Registered: 6-2002 |
the 99 is no faster than any other 360. i have had a 2000 and now a 2002. my friend has a 99 and it is not quicker. i have been on the track with several 99's and they are not quicker. no two 360's regardless of current model year are the exact same anyway but there is no noticable difference between the speed of a 99 and an 02 but they are louder. | ||
| Edward (Edward_96gts)
New member Username: Edward_96gts Post Number: 46 Registered: 8-2002 |
Over $1 million! WOW! | ||
| martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member Username: Mw575 Post Number: 1014 Registered: 5-2001 |
OOOOPS my mistake----I meant $1116000!!! Youse guys are so picky-picky-picky. Scott-Getting old huh? I'm going to smoke your DINO 360 when I see you . Love, Frank | ||
| Frank Parker (Parkerfe)
Intermediate Member Username: Parkerfe Post Number: 2384 Registered: 9-2001 |
Has anyone had those (insert adjective here) pot medal console and door panels on their 360 covered in leather ? I think it would look better. | ||
| M.J. Callie (Dream_cars)
New member Username: Dream_cars Post Number: 17 Registered: 5-2003 |
what made the 1999 360s the quickest. is it only a software change. I was looking for a 02-03 360 but now with this info a 99 will save money and have an advantage. I like. | ||
| Jonathan Peck (Jonathanp)
Junior Member Username: Jonathanp Post Number: 67 Registered: 7-2002 |
Tony, I have a 2000 US coupe with F-1 and 4100 miles that can be bought for around $160K to high $150's. Call me if you are interested. Jonathan Peck 214-289-8915   | ||
| FABS (Caruso360)
New member Username: Caruso360 Post Number: 41 Registered: 5-2003 |
Marty is missing a 1, and yes of course I believe it was a good deal on the 99 Euro 360. This car will be an endless adventure. However, there aren't many of these out there. Most are F1, and according to Dave Helms,(if you are in tune with the F world, you know who Dave is) the 99 was the quickest 360 made. Electronics were modified in subsequent years. It seems that FNA dealers are ill advised to promote Euro models, this may have helped in my deal for them to move the car ASAP before having a run in with their governing authority. | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott Post Number: 158 Registered: 6-2001 |
When there was no US alternative, perhaps the dealers are loser. I am very pro the whole EURO thing, but I don't control FNA attitudes. "Let the free market live" | ||
| Kendall Kim (Kenny)
New member Username: Kenny Post Number: 41 Registered: 9-2001 |
I think it's just a scam to discourage US buyers from buying euro cars... If FNA doesn't allow dealers to service euro cars, or entitle them to recalls etc. then why do authorized Ferrari dealers sell Boxers, 288GTO's, and 400i/412i..?? Theoretically, shouldn't those owners be refused service as well?? | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott Post Number: 157 Registered: 6-2001 |
Marty is gettin' kinda old--gotta give him a break every now and then. | ||
| Edward (Edward_96gts)
New member Username: Edward_96gts Post Number: 44 Registered: 8-2002 |
Martin, you're either missing a 1 or a 0. Orrrr, someone got a really good deal! | ||
| martin j weiner,M.D. (Mw575)
Intermediate Member Username: Mw575 Post Number: 1012 Registered: 5-2001 |
"99 360 euro-red/blk-6 cd-rear challenge grill auto seats-6 spd-15000 mi sold for $16,000. | ||
| Lloyd (Lloyd)
Junior Member Username: Lloyd Post Number: 92 Registered: 8-2001 |
I just had the seatbelt recall on my 512TR and the dealer told me that when another customer came in with a Euro TR, it's serial number was not on the list (apparently only US cars on list), so they did not do the recall on this safety issue. | ||
| Scott A. B. Collins (Scott)
Junior Member Username: Scott Post Number: 153 Registered: 6-2001 |
Hopefully Dr. Marty will comment, as he owned a Euro 360. One of the issues, outside of warranty, is recalls or updates that are not tied to the warranty period. I believe his experience with the local dealer has been that if it is safety related, they would do it. If not, he was on his own. There are previous threads regarding dealers refusing to service Euro cars (I don't know how valid these are) but given the computer diagnostic requirements of the 360, this could be an issue. I think the prices quoted are certainly in the ballpark--cars under warranty add approximately 10K. | ||
| "The Dave" (Sparetireless)
Junior Member Username: Sparetireless Post Number: 97 Registered: 1-2003 |
I agree with the previous post that the current market is about $120-130 for a 6 speed '99 with some, miles on it. What do you think a similarly equiped euro version is worth, assuming it has correct Federalization papers from a reputable conversion shop? | ||
| noel smith (Noel)
Member Username: Noel Post Number: 334 Registered: 2-2003 |
euros are the same once the warrenty is gone. i have no idea why people are against them. | ||
| John B (John_b)
New member Username: John_b Post Number: 10 Registered: 5-2003 |
I just shopped around and bought a low miles '99 Titanium F1 coupe for $140. Thats the ballpark. | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1197 Registered: 12-2001 |
Do any of you 360 coupe owners have the sunroof? It was my impression that these were offered at the outset, but that faded due to lack of interest. One dealer had one nearby, can't remember exterior color, but it not only had a sunroof, but green leather seats. Yeah, Baby! | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 244 Registered: 1-2003 |
Tony, you shouldn't be opposed to a Euro car. For a 1999 or 2000, you are out of or almost out of warranty anyway. Same car. I own a Euro. | ||
| Scott DeGhetto (Scott63)
Junior Member Username: Scott63 Post Number: 66 Registered: 4-2003 |
I think the going rate for a 99 coupe is about $135K - $145K. | ||
| Tony Roberts (Pantera)
New member Username: Pantera Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2003 |
USA CAR! | ||
| Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member Username: Kzma Post Number: 197 Registered: 3-2003 |
US or Euro? | ||
| Tony Roberts (Pantera)
New member Username: Pantera Post Number: 8 Registered: 6-2003 |
What should I pay for a low mileage 360. I am looking at model year's 1999 or 2000. I prefer a 6 speed car and a coupe! |