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Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd
Post Number: 387 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:43 pm: | |
Jeffrey- I too owe most/all of my F-car expierence to the sheer generosity of owners of these fine machines. My first time (driving, though... nevermind ) was an '87 Mondial 3.2 Cabriolet. Lovely car. Luscious, sexy, quick, and great with the top off. It may not set any records, but it can definately hold it's own, and it's a mid-engine car for you, the wife, and two friends (ok, distant friends, that back seat isn't huge!) The engine is a 180* V-8, and that's one HELL of a racing connection if you have any sense at all in the matter, far as I see it! (180* v8s are a compromise few companies can/will make. They'll make more power in the same displacement than the standard american 90* design, but they SHAKE LIKE A MOTHER! The Mercedes CLK-GTR race car is a 180* V-8, but the production car got a V-12, because the 180* v8 vibrated too much.) This post will probally get lost in the noise, personally I like both F-cars and Lambos. Ferrari stirs my heart more, thus it is the car I will own first. There is definately a place for a Countach in my garage one day! |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 29 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:37 pm: | |
Taek... not towards you.. VC=Very clueless. And I admit I was bashing others but I believe in fire with fire. they post flames here that bash Ferrari on a Ferrari board. They deserve whatever treatment they recieve. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 822 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:30 pm: | |
And yep. The S2000 is a fun car indeed. Cheers |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 821 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:29 pm: | |
Jeff, If you notice my post I didn't say you didn't have wheel time. I just mentioned that you should, which you have, but the latter part of the comment is what's lacking. >>Formulate an educated opinion and post them with tact. If you want to bash a specific user for ignorant comments, that's entirely up to you. But there are people here who are fans of other marques.<< What the hell is The VC anyway? I hope that wasn't a reference towards me because I got no clue as to what that is. Cheers |
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 237 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:07 pm: | |
Oh and let's not forget the S2000 carries on a tradition of S cars built by Honda, namely the S500, S600 and the S800. And when Honda was in F1 they kicked butt. Honda is all about engines... hence the name Honda MOTOR Company and not Honda car Company. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 27 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:03 pm: | |
Agree. The 2000 is a fun car and heck of an engine |
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 236 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 10:01 pm: | |
Allan, Actually the S2000 is a hoot. I had one for two years. You should try one. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 26 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:58 pm: | |
Allen and The VC... I have spent saddle time in most every current exotic. I chose the model of my Ferrari due to wanting a daily driver that would give me some weekend fun also. I have a few hours in the Diablo and also in the NSX. I have track time at Mid ohio and Road Atlanta in almost every Ferrai road car. I owned a Bora and currently have a Merak SS. So before you attempt to advise me make sure you know my experience level. One thing I can note for you both... THE WAY I GOT MOST OF MY EXPERENCE WAS DUE TO THE KINDNESS OF FERRARI OWNERS !! They were always willing to share their talents and experiences. And to answer the very weak attempt to bash my mondy.. Yeppers it was built in the same factory as the cars that won F1 racing and every major sportscar event in the world. It was built on the same floor that was walked upon by the best racers in the world. And it was tested on the same roads and track as the award winning racers. |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 5167 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:41 pm: | |
Jeffrey, Welcome to FerrariChat.com. I apologize I can't keep our community 100% free of A Holes and Jackasses. If I could, I would. Don't be discouraged. 99.9% of our users are good people, good Ferrari enthusiasts, and good at respecting the diversity of this board. It upsets me that a couple individuals like Allan scare away good users like yourself.
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Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 815 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:41 pm: | |
Jeffrey, Bashing Lambroghinis with F1 and heritage is hardly the way to go. Get some real wheel time in a Diablo, Murcielago, etc and their Ferrari counterparts. Formulate an educated opinion and post them with tact. If you want to bash a specific user for ignorant comments, that's entirely up to you. But there are people here who are fans of other marques. Cheers |
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2586 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:24 pm: | |
Arlie, sure, just make sure & put $100,000 in the passenger seat  |
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 507 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:17 pm: | |
Who is the parent company of Accura?
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allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 589 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:14 pm: | |
Jeffrey, when Ferrari won Formula 1, were they driving a car remotely close to a 1986 Mondial 3.2? Honda has won Formula one also, should i buy a Honda and be part of a club also? |
Andy Falsetta (Tuttebenne)
Junior Member Username: Tuttebenne
Post Number: 158 Registered: 3-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:11 pm: | |
Just some facts: Lambo made tractors David Brown (Aston Martin) made tractors Porsche made tractors Ferrari doesn't make tractors So now what?
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Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348
Post Number: 505 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:10 pm: | |
Allan, When did you get a house? Congratulations! Vincent |
wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 1194 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:09 pm: | |
Jim: I wish you would quit defending Allan.Those are his good points. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 24 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:06 pm: | |
Perhaps I have forgotten but when did Lambroghini win any type of international competition? Was I asleep when they won in F1? Did I snooze when they took the title in Sportscar or Rally events? IF I was only interested in flash I would buy a new Saleen or perhaps an F1 McClaren. But, you see, Ferrari has what only a small handfull of companies has... History. And , unlike the love of my life LOTUS, Ferrari has managed to win again and again. Even when they have a dry spell they come back. A Lambro or a Viper may make you feel like your 4 inch Johnson is more interesting but Ferrari ownership makes you a member of a long lived and amazing club. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1523 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:55 pm: | |
Alan Silly me. Cheers... |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 587 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:50 pm: | |
James, get it right, i dont sell timeshare, i manage companies that do, and yes, i would not tell anyone that i drive a Golf. No margaritas today, just a cold Miller Lite, thank you. |
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member Username: Napolis
Post Number: 1522 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:41 pm: | |
WM I'm confused what's not to like? That he boasts of drinking margaritas as the rest of us have to work? That he describes his wife sitting on his lap as he insults teenage car enthusists? That his wife and him make a forture selling timeshares? That he makes racist, homophobic comments? That even though times are tough he has scribed a check for $200,000 and his house costs $4,000,000 That if he drove a VW golf he wouldn't tell anyone about it? ( The person was describing racing a Golf) |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 586 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:40 pm: | |
William, the Countch was basicly designed in the early 70's. Comparing it to a car that was a total re-design in the 90's is not really fair. No doubt a 512Tr is a better car, it just took 20 more years to make it. I had a 80's Testarossa, and the Countach was superior in every single way. If you are only getting 4,000 miles out of your clutch, than you are abusive. My car had 70,000+km, on its original clutch, and still going strong, and with the performance mods i had performed, relatively easy, smoked a 512Tr in a straightline. |
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32
Post Number: 23 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:33 pm: | |
I have only been here a week and already I am ready to just visit to research service answers. It is amazing the number of crappy flame posts I have read in just the last five days. Why would anyone come here to flame a brand of car? IF you can't afford one or you ego is too weak to deal with the attention that Ferrari's get then why come to a site that is only for Ferrari? My 86 Esprit Turbo with a few mods can run circles around my Mondial 3.2 but guess what? The magic of Ferrari is real and cannot be overcome with just a faster 0-60 time. GROW UP. |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 804 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:47 pm: | |
HAHAHAHA! WHart, that's awesome. Cheers |
Ryan550 (Ryanab)
Member Username: Ryanab
Post Number: 356 Registered: 3-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:46 pm: | |
allan, i'm curious: Do you treat people who show an interest in your vehicles on the street the same way you do on the internet? Guys, this is how he gets his jollies. We should move on and send this thread to the pit. My 0.02 lol, Whart!
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wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart
Post Number: 1193 Registered: 12-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:40 pm: | |
Guys: you are arguing the wrong issue. I might buy a Lambo, but i would never buy an Allan. |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 1228 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 7:05 pm: | |
How about an even trade for a Porsche 912 with a blown motor?
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William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2585 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 6:59 pm: | |
My Countach is great looking has good power, lousy brakes, and you cant see the apexes although the suspension was top shelf in 1977 when the car was first introduced. My 512TR on the other hand can easily destroy it in all categories except maybe 0-60. I'm having the Countach repainted then she'll become my show queen. Parts are too expensive, too rare, maintanance is too much, a clucth lasts 4,000 miles if you are lucky & costs $5,000 plus to replace. Who wants to take the COuntach off my hands in exchange for a nice Porsche 993 Turbo ? |
Tom Bakowsky (Tbakowsky)
Member Username: Tbakowsky
Post Number: 416 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 6:45 pm: | |
Ferrari's and Lambo's are 2 totaly different animals. Too compare the 2 cars is just going to lead to arguments. The truth is neither one is better than the other. They are both very good at what they do. They Lambo in some opinions my be a little over the top, but there is nothing wrong with being different. The general basis of both car companies is to build exotic cars with outstanding performace, and looks to kill. They just do it in different ways. |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 257 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 6:32 pm: | |
Taek, I think people like you and also Modman here are the exception for Lambo owners. As they say money doesn't make the man it just magnifies what he truly is. |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 585 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 6:21 pm: | |
Oh my, someone, other than me, said that Ferrari's are boring compared to Lamborghini's! Rip his head off!!lol Mark, you are suggesting a comparison of your driving skill against mine, not a car compro. You have track experience i do not. In a regular race, ill give you a head start and shift with my left hand. There is a reason why 9 out of 10 magazines that do compros between Ferraris and Lambos, always choose the Lambo. One of my favorites articles, first tests a Testarossa, then the headline on the Countach reads "Anything you can do, I can do better". |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 790 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:50 pm: | |
>>lets see......thorobred or tractor.......duh!<< Now that's an uneducated comment in more ways than one! Sorry had to say that. Nothing to do with F vs. L. Cheers |
Joe Pino (Joe_pino)
New member Username: Joe_pino
Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:47 pm: | |
Hello Again Guys, I never thought I would actually log in here again. But I feel compelled. As I stated earlier. The niche JRV has is, he is in control and deletes poo poo off his board and keeps it clean, as I previously stated in my post couple days ago. btw: Nobody should take this personal. This approach and method to Ferrari-talk and Lamborghini-talk is something I like and prefer. You of course don't have to feel the same. Now, as for Lamborghini vs Ferrari, all I can honestly say, 100% truth, I have owned 6 Ferrari's on and off over the years, and late last year got my first Lamborghini. A 1989 Anniversary Countach, and life has not been the same since. I didn't even drive my Ferrari again for 6 months. The only use it got was my wife used it to run errands. Believe me, at first, it took me awhile to realize and believe what was happening to me, but it's the truth. After awhile Ferrari's just got boring. |
Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Junior Member Username: Paulie_b
Post Number: 233 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:47 pm: | |
lets see......thorobred or tractor.......duh! |
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 234 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:26 pm: | |
Thanks for the invite. I may just do that. I'm not a Yahoo Group user however. I don't care for the interface and all the advertisements.
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Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 107 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:22 pm: | |
OK Allan: It is just so much fun to hear YOU whine! What is it about getting on this forum and stirring up controversy that so appeals to you? All in good fun......just remember, my offer to comopare the performance of my 512M with your car remains open.... All the Best, Mark |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 786 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:18 pm: | |
Before I piss off Rob any more talking about Lamborghinis Craig if you have any other good questions you'd like feedback on visit one of the lamborghini forums out there. There is also a Lamborghini List which is a Yahoo Groups format and quite frankly kind of annoying. There is a lot of good information there from owners and fans alike. Cheers |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 785 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:17 pm: | |
Craig, I'm no racecar driver but both the Diablo and the Murcielago are very quick. The only real qualified racer reports I've seen are Derek Bell on a Countach (he loved it and said it was surprisingly good on and off the track) and one of the Andrettis. Mario I think. He said the Diablo was the best real road car on the planet. I think this was around 4 years ago. Then, given how the Murcielago has been touted as handling a lot better than the Diablo, I am going under the risky assumption that it's a great ride for the twisty bits too. Cheers |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 784 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:12 pm: | |
Mark, Having driven a Murcielago, the car seemed of very good construction. I had no problems with borken shifters or the like. The only problem I had, was dashboard electrics. As for the speed. A Ferrari salesman told me after getting out of the car "Wow. This car is stupid fast. I don't think my brain could keep up with the car and I've never said that before!" Cheers |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 584 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:11 pm: | |
Lol Mark, to find quality construction, you need only to look here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/discus/messages/112/112.html?1054756924 Or go see my Uncles 2003 360 Modena that has now been in the shop over 2 months. As for the Murci only being able to match the 575M, well, thats pretty sad that you bring that up. Hmmm, lets see, lets show the absolute worst article on a Murcielago, where it matches the 575M, or check every other magazine, which i have several, in which it destroys it. Would you like me to post some articles with headlines saying" How Ferrari ruined the new 575M" ? And btw, my shifter is just fine, thanks for whining, i mean asking. |
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 232 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 3:03 pm: | |
Honestly, when I think of Lambos I rarely think of racing. I think of raw, pure power and very high straight line speed. How do Lambos perform on the twisties? Do they hold their own on the road courses? |
Mark Moon (Enzomoon)
Junior Member Username: Enzomoon
Post Number: 106 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:59 pm: | |
Allan: How many ViceGrips have you had to go through with your Lambo?? I see that the poor guys at Car and Driver snapped off the shifter shaft while testing the Murci...now THATS quality construction. Also, I found it quite humorous that such a supposedly astonishingly fast car could only match the 1/4 mile times of the 575M which has performance that I believe you described a "disappointing". What a joke..... |
allan fiedler (Allanlambo)
Member Username: Allanlambo
Post Number: 583 Registered: 6-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:41 pm: | |
Lol, i wondered how long it would take for that thread to show up here. Now i have fun watching the whining! Since all you can bring up is the Tractor comments, i can see how badly it hurts to know that the cars from the tractor manufacturer destroy those RACE-Bred F-cars. Btw, drove my 355 Spider last night, 150mph with the top down! Nice! |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 542 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:48 am: | |
I'm acting like a jerk because you said that Ferrari owners are whiny Pansies? Wow you are a little confused
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JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1678 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:45 am: | |
>>JRV, I just got a great idea. To help you get your site off the ground, I would love to send you a few users. Only catch is they can't come back to FerrariChat.com! <<< Uhhhh...let me think..is this a good deal for me ? ;-) I see guys like Pat Pasqulini want to act like jerks on both boards so it looks like all boards will lose having trash talkers like him around. IMHO a win/win is far better than a Lose/Lose anyday...but I'll have to insist that you keep guys like Pat so that I win...;-) Have to admit it was fun pushing that thread over the edge and watching it fall into the bottomless abbyss...;-)
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Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 541 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
It would seem to me that it was deleted more on the fact that you were dissing the Ferrari owners also and maybe didn't want that to hurt your rep? And without you saying you don't need anyones opinion on your rep and all that jazz about your work stands for itself bla bla bla. You were still downtalking the owners that put money in your pocket |
Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
Junior Member Username: Keith_maxwell
Post Number: 87 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:20 am: | |
The only things that beat a MiG-29 have Northrop Grumman or Lockheed Martin on them! Can you hear the Top Gun soundtrack? |
Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts
Post Number: 5158 Registered: 12-2000
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:18 am: | |
I found the Lambo tractors site awhile back, it was pretty cool. I don't see anything wrong with a company having a diversified product line as long as the businesses aren't meddled. I'm glad FIAT leaves Ferrari pretty much hands off! JRV, I just got a great idea. To help you get your site off the ground, I would love to send you a few users. Only catch is they can't come back to FerrariChat.com!  |
Mark (Markg)
Member Username: Markg
Post Number: 502 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 9:09 am: | |
Lamborghini built cars because he was dissapointed with the quality of his Ferraris. The LP400 (NO flares, wings etc.)-my favorite design Lambo - leaves no question as to what it was designed for, and it wasn't as a daily driver! Ferrari seems to build more practical cars, ones you can actually use. To me the Lambo is an exotic toy for occasional use. But I like cars and their enthusiasts, wheather Ferrari owners, Lambo owners oe '62 chopped chort Cheby Impalas...we are all one family belonging to an endangerd species list created by the EPA, DOT and insurance industry. As for me I'm saving up to go to Moscow and fly a MiG-29 - let's see a F car or Lambo beat THAT machine!
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JRV (Jrvall)
Intermediate Member Username: Jrvall
Post Number: 1677 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:57 am: | |
>>>What happened to the thread on lambo-talk? Did JRV delete it?<< YES HE DID !! ;-)... I don't want my board/s filled with useless trash. It was humourous in the beggining when Allen was venting, but once it became a nuisance thread it was banished to Cyber No Mans Land...it's still out there somewhere, I simply pushed it over the edge into the Abbyss, everyone that's obsessed with that thread is welcome to follow it into the Abbyss and hunt it down. ;-) |
Pat Pasqualini (Enzo)
Member Username: Enzo
Post Number: 540 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 8:06 am: | |
What happened to the thread on lambo-talk? Did JRV delete it? |
Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
Junior Member Username: Keith_maxwell
Post Number: 83 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 5:49 am: | |
In the strange but true category - Ferdinand Porsche died in 1951 but had already put together designs for a front engined replacement for his 911 design. Another Porsche legend, Harm Lagaay (Tony Lapine's protege) designed the the body around the 4 cylinder motor that Dr. Porsche designed. Ernst Fuhrmann takes the engineering credit for the 928. The factory supported 924 and 944 racing projects. Back on topic - the fuel injection for the Ferrari 308 GTSi/GTBi and Mondial is the same as the 924 - Bosch K Jetronic.... |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 760 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 2:30 am: | |
Jeff, if you were really paying attention you'd realize that there are other Lamborghini "ambassadors" in FChat. You just seem to remember the one you resent most. Cheers |
Jaime T. Ferraris are sex on wheels (Chevarri)
Junior Member Username: Chevarri
Post Number: 95 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Wednesday, June 04, 2003 - 12:21 am: | |
Speaking of Lambos & Tractors, does Lambo still make tractors, are they really expensive tractors or any thing? Im serious, no joke. |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 256 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:47 pm: | |
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Russ Turner (Snj5)
Junior Member Username: Snj5
Post Number: 174 Registered: 2-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:46 pm: | |
Hey.... Should Chicks drive tractors? Sorry, couldn't resist - just kidding. |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 255 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 11:39 pm: | |
Nothing wrong with tractors, I have a few, or farm equipment, I just wouldn't want the company that makes them make a high speed car, they have totally different design and engineering concepts and goals. Lambo owners should feel so lucky to have such a great online ambassador as AlanLambo to voice their opinions and to further validate stereotypes CountachXX, I think you were refering to your mommy not mine as it seems you have them mixed up |
Jordan Witherspoon (Jordan747_400)
Intermediate Member Username: Jordan747_400
Post Number: 1162 Registered: 12-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 10:27 pm: | |
Sorry to go off topic guys, but... Keith, Did Ferdinand Porsche really oversee the production of the 924-968? |
William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx
Post Number: 2581 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 9:14 pm: | |
Your Momma was here but she left after the gang bang LOL  |
William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member Username: Solipsist
Post Number: 1014 Registered: 9-2001
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:48 pm: | |
Tractors help build nations, they have been and always will be a viable part any economy. Has anyone thought about Lamborghini farm equipment providing to the production of wine, food, & other fine things Italy is also know for?
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DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4451 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:38 pm: | |
See, now, Craig, i preach a good game, but i'm just as bad as they are... My Ferrari models and Lamborghini models are at opposite ends of my apartment... As subtle as it is, there's a sort of silent exotic war going on in my apartment... Even have a seperate section for my Porsches...  |
Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie
Post Number: 1215 Registered: 5-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:35 pm: | |
"Own a car bred from racing or own a car bred from a tractor?" Nearly all cars are bred from single cylinder, 4 cycle stationary farm engines which are descendants of the German Otto 4 cycle engine. Early farm equipment such as grist mills and water pumps were powered by single cylinder, 4 cycle gas engines. Some of the old single cylinder engines were so heavy to pull by horse, several tons each, that some were fitted with wheels and drive belts attached to the engine itself strictly for the purpose of moving them from place to place more easily. I have an old Fairbanks Morse SIX horsepower, single cylinder engine that weighs about 900 pounds.
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Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 216 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:20 pm: | |
DES, just poking them where it hurts them. Trust me, if I had $95K I'd have a 25th Anniversary Countach in my garage right next to my 348ts. As a boy I had Lamborghini posters on my wall as opposed to Ferrari posters. Why Ferrari then? Well it's more like Ferrari 'first' as opposed to 'only' Ferrari because I've come to like the curves over straight lines of Lamborghini. Give me time and I will own a Lamborghini. |
Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
Junior Member Username: Keith_maxwell
Post Number: 80 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 8:11 pm: | |
Ferdinand Porsche also built tractors. He's better known for building the Volkswagon, 356, 911, 912, 924, 944, 928, 968, etc... Porsche has won more GT and endurance races and championships than ALL other marques combined. Ferrari has a very distinguished record of building tremendously successful race cars. Lambo has a very distinguished record of building cars for guys with ego's inversely proportionate to their (another term for Harley Davidson). |
Thomas Saupe (Tom_s)
New member Username: Tom_s
Post Number: 45 Registered: 1-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:55 pm: | |
Gee, I like wine and flowers. What gives? |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4445 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:53 pm: | |
Craig, if we're gonna look at it that way, then Lamborghini has come a long way; Enzo started with racecars, Ferruccio started with farm equipment... Putting down Lamborghini is not the way to go, here; it'll just make us look as bad as those ass clowns... i have more respect for someone doing her/his thing in some run-of-the-mill mass-produced econobox than Allan in his milked out Diablo... His whole attitude is wrong and he's obviously grasping at anything that remotely resembles a straw to compensate for some hefty inadequacies... Allan's not the rule, he's the exception(and never has the word 'exception' been used in such an extremely euphemistic manner)... If Allan was the epitome of exotic owners, i'd keep my Saturn and be happy- i'll never trade my dignity for a car. (Ok, maybe for an Enzo... ) |
Craig A (Milo)
Junior Member Username: Milo
Post Number: 215 Registered: 4-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:42 pm: | |
hmmm.... Own a car bred from racing or own a car bred from a tractor? hmmmm....
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Dave (Maranelloman)
Intermediate Member Username: Maranelloman
Post Number: 1772 Registered: 1-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:19 pm: | |
Agreed, Taek. That Allan sure is a piece of "work", eh?
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Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 751 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:15 pm: | |
This thread has disaster written all over it. It's just people venting. Leave it at that. Lambos are brutal? Fine. Ferraris have mystique? Fine. I like me spinach green. Fine. Cheers |
Keith Maxwell (Keith_maxwell)
Junior Member Username: Keith_maxwell
Post Number: 79 Registered: 5-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:08 pm: | |
In 1984 I had an opportunity most college freshmen would kill for, I drove a Lambo Countach that belonged to a friend of my grandfather. It was brutal, fast, uncomfortable, exhilerating, impossible to see out the back and very enjoyable for the half hour I had it. That said, if I never drive one again, I won't miss it. Road going Ferraris are civilized, enjoyable, and don't look like they were designed by Beavis and Butthead practicing with a straight-edge. Call me a pansy and a whiner. I love Ferrari - even though I own BMW and Porsche, |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4441 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:03 pm: | |
LOL, Taek, i'm right with you... i'm a pansy, too... i want to see one of those "real men" drive my Saturn; no power steering, no traction control, no fifth gear, no reverse - and i still smile everytime i get in it... Yeah, i'm a pansy... Can i get a Scuderia shield with a pansy in place of the Prancing Horse...? LOL, this thread is gonna get funny, i can just see it now... |
Bruce Wellington (Bws88tr)
Intermediate Member Username: Bws88tr
Post Number: 1924 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:02 pm: | |
ASSWIPES............AS THE SAGA GOES ON.... |
DES (Sickspeed)
Advanced Member Username: Sickspeed
Post Number: 4440 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:01 pm: | |
quote:Plus, the Lamborghini needs a real man to handle it.
ROTFLMAO...! Let's get a definition on that, shall we...? Hey, where's Alpert...? LOL... Matt, where's that seat belt picture, 'cause you know where this is going... |
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice
Post Number: 750 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 7:00 pm: | |
Don't tell anyone, but I'm a pansy. Cheers |
Steve (I_love_ferraris)
New member Username: I_love_ferraris
Post Number: 9 Registered: 6-2003
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 6:59 pm: | |
Huh? |
jeff ryerson (Atheyg)
Member Username: Atheyg
Post Number: 254 Registered: 8-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, June 03, 2003 - 6:56 pm: | |
http://www.lamborghini-talk.com/forum/messages/28/160.html?1052446243 ? |