| Author | Message | ||
| Hill Bullock (Mrpotential)
New member Username: Mrpotential Post Number: 16 Registered: 12-2002 |
Did someone really say "hot rodders in the day" didn't drive like morons, and didn't street race? Must be different days than I experienced. Take a breath, fella's. The kids today are just expressing themselves in the ways that are popular with "the crowd", same as before. Some of the ways are dumb (just as before), and some aren't. The best trend (IMO) right now is the interest in rallying and the amazing cars that is producing. Exotic performance levels are becoming widely available with cars like the Evo and WRX. Don't snub them too much, because it will hurt that much more when they pass you on the track. | ||
| Bill Stevens (Pig4bill)
New member Username: Pig4bill Post Number: 12 Registered: 4-2002 |
Actually, technology has improved Chevy and Ford small blocks a lot. Yes, Chevy is getting 400 hp now, but another 100 hp is not hard to get if you're willing to give up emissions compliance. The guy that was talking about a 500 hp Mustang - a 500 hp Mustang engine can probably be built for under $10,000 without forced induction. Don't try to compare the hp from your emissions-legal Ferraris that are warranteed and run smoothly with modded cars. You'll only be frustrated by 500 hp 944 Turbos, 600 hp Porsche 930's, and 800 hp Supra Turbos. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 657 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jeff, if you were in the area, I would gladly let you take her out. BUT IMHO Lotuses are better...I just can't fit in them  | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 69 Registered: 5-2003 |
I have never had the pleasure of driving an NSX... they sound great and the owners I meet seem to really enjoy them. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 655 Registered: 9-2002 |
Understandable Jeff, that said, I have seem my fair share of fart-cans doing stupid things. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 68 Registered: 5-2003 |
And Omar.. as I said.. I am running SUB 5's for 0-60 with mod's. I am certain I could give your NSX a run for the money. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 67 Registered: 5-2003 |
To be fair to Omar. I was not referring to Asian exotics like the NSX. I was talking about the "fart can" runners. I actually was able to watch one lose it on a sweeper here in South Florida trying to match the Esprit. He ended up in the mangroves and had to work it out with the police. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 654 Registered: 9-2002 |
James if it only is running low 5s for 60 its the earlier one (S4 or before) NA2s run 4.5-9 (depending on type) and we all know NSX handling. | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 158 Registered: 11-2002 |
NSX-T? Are you seriously trying to compare a lotus esprit to a targa (ie: FLEX) 290hp NSX in the corners? ...... I sure hope not  MM | ||
| neal (95spiderneal)
Junior Member Username: 95spiderneal Post Number: 158 Registered: 3-2002 |
saw movie last nite and enjoyed it for what it is mindless unrealistic entertainment that features what i like best - cars. as for ricers i like much of what they do. theres good and bad in every group just as with our group of "pastas". i automatically relate to someone who enjoys their car as an expression of themselves. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 650 Registered: 9-2002 |
Jeff I would like to see your Esprit out handle and drive a NA2 NSX-c or even a NSX-t | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 58 Registered: 5-2003 |
As a side note.. there was a 700 HP Nissan four door in the Gumball rally last year. You can see it Monday night on DSS ch191. With NOS and turbos you can extract more hp than you might think. Remember the mid 70's F1 cars.... 700 to 1000 hp from very small displacement cars. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 57 Registered: 5-2003 |
Mark.. no offence but I was just watching a video of street racers that featured several 350 plus horse power Honda's and Toyota's. I am not talking about Supras and NSX's I am talking about four door sedans with multi stage NOS and turbos. Most had reprogrammed ignition and injection systems but nothing that required more than hand tools to install. And my point about things like "indexing" was to show that IN my day we had to learn to really "tune" an engine... not just bolt parts on. An extra 5-8 hp that indexing gave was a big deal... now it's just put in a bigger NOS fogger and up the boost on your turbo... what crap.. these morons are not drivers or tuners... the companies that make the products are the tuners. Thankfully I am lucky. I can usually make them lose it when I run them in my mod'ed Esprit. Runs sub 5's 0-60 and out handles the Asian crap in the twisty bits. | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Member Username: Me_k Post Number: 540 Registered: 5-2002 |
Jeff, I agree it is a big waste of money to do anything to a civic, but come on, we both know if you try to bolt several hundred hp of nos and turbo on a civic it will explode. Think about what you�re saying, a 2 liter engine and making 400hp? GM is just this year getting that from their 5.7 liter I believe it is much harder to find hp these day, the bar is just so much higher. 30 years ago a set of header and a loud muffler was at least 15% more hp, usually closer to 20%, today your lucky if the hp doesn�t go down when you try that. Indexing plugs does nothing in a 4 valve engine, the plug is already centered and straight by design. The ports are pretty good too, most engine shops end up making them worse when they mess with them. Car have come a very long way. As for brake and suspension, I think I can count on 1 hand the number of articles I�ve see on improving them in the magazines I�ve read over the years. I remember when I was in high school the big thing was loud muffler first, then a shackle kit to raise the rear end so G50-15 tires would fit, then came a set of drag stocks, made the car dangerous as hell to drive. The year I graduated HS, the C4 vette (225hp)came out, I remember one of the magazines put it head to head against �68 with the L88 big block (435hp if I recall). The 84 won every event. And now 20- more years have gone by, there are a lot of cars that stock to stock will trash anything the 60s had to offer. I don�t personal have any interest in any of the �ricers�, but I don�t have anything against then either. I�ve run across several that headed me my head at the autocross, they must have done something right. | ||
| Steve (I_love_ferraris)
New member Username: I_love_ferraris Post Number: 33 Registered: 6-2003 |
I went to this movie last night. Full of bullshit! They were packing it down to fit in more! The rice burners race a Hemi and another classic car I've never seen in my life. But I'm looking up on it. These cars had big blocks in them, and the rice burners still won! Then before this they go to some rice guys house who wants them to get a package from his Ferrari which is in the impound lot. The black star (I don't know his name) punches in the window of a 360 Spider. No alarm! The movie plot was good but the way it ran was trash. Hopefully they'll make another Fast and The Furious and show they way things really are. Rice burners beating big blocks. Yea Right! | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 993 Registered: 3-2002 |
There's a guy I know at work who bought an '88 Mustang new, and over the last 15 years must have put at least $75K into it! But just like Jeffrey said, he did it piecemeal, so he always had problems. Beefed up the engine, blew his transmission. Fixed the tranny, busted a driveshaft. Fixed the shaft, destroyed his brakes. He recently had it dyno-ed, and the hp figures were damn high (don't remember, but I want to say in the 500 range!). He showed me a picture, and it's a very out of date looking car with a horribly-done yellow paint job. He doesn't do much of the work himself, and he's now 36 years old. And when people ask about it, he says things like "Dude, my Mustang rocks!", when at this point he isn't really driving a Mustang anymore. Guess I can't understand the logic in something like this. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 56 Registered: 5-2003 |
As a side note... there is a HUGE difference between the so called "tuners" of today and of my days. We could not just bolt on power or NOS. We had to learn machine skills and how to work with carb, cams and timing. I learned how to port and polish along with blueprinting and balancing. I wonder how many of these dumb ass kids know what it means to "index" a set of plugs. It's not about being old or feeling out of it.. it is about skill and ability vs trying to look cool with some piece of asian made crap. A 400hp Civic does not impress me...It's just a 5k car with 20k of mods... these aholes would be better off starting with an older exotic and learing how to drive then work up to a better ride. But that takes work and talent.. they would rather pretend to be drivers. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 55 Registered: 5-2003 |
Mark you missed a very important point. When I started out EVERY mag stressed that if you modified the engine you had better do the brakes and suspension. I read most of the ricer "tuner mags" and they scream on each cover how to add horsepower with no talk of handling. Page after page of dressup crap with no springs or rotor upgrades. Let's take a stupid kid with a 125 hp Accord and if he starts at 9am by 6 pm he can have added NOS and a turbo kit for several hundred extra horses. Add no Skill or learning curve and you ahve the making of a disaster. All they think about is 1/4 mile times and don't think about curves. Actually I feel the same about many Ferrari owners.. they have the cash but not the talent. A high output car should only be trusted to the skilled. | ||
| Mark Eberhardt (Me_k)
Member Username: Me_k Post Number: 538 Registered: 5-2002 |
It's kind of funny to hear people talk about the good old days when hotter rods were for serious racing. As I remember it, the overwhelming majority never got any closer to a track than main street on Saturday night. I can think of half a dozen beach boys songs about street racing�..there�s a Foreigner song for the late 70s early 80s �Revin� on the redline� I think is the name, again street racing�..A realy old song �Hot rod Lincoln�, street racing in the 50s, Chuck Berry had a hit as I recall one of the lines was �Cadillac doing about 95, but nothing out runs my V8 ford�. There is nothing at all new about street racing. I saw a quote that went something like �kids these days want everything faster and louder, with the emphasis on loud�, it saw written by a Greek about 2000 years ago. Kids will be kids, the day you notice it real bothers you is the day you know you�re getting old. Don�t get me wrong, street racing is very dangerous and loun mufflers and stereos are really annoying to the people around you, its just that kids tend not to understand that nearly as well as adults. | ||
| michaelthuber (Mikehuber)
New member Username: Mikehuber Post Number: 26 Registered: 3-2003 |
I have a 20yr. old son who is a "ricer". I have an F car. I just appreciate the fact that he does alot of the work on his car(with my help) himself. I am not a well-heeled, unlimited budget, kind of guy.I have been fortunate enough to finally get the Ferrari I have dreamed of since I saw and heard my first one. I do all of the work on my car myself. I learned the skills from my Dad when I was young and building 60's and 70's muscle cars. Those are some of my fondest memories. I hope when my son is my age he will feel the same. I still remember the firing order of a small block Chevy, even though I haven't owned one for more than 20 years. It's 1-8-4-3-6-5-7-2. I did street race constantly when I was young, but now I just cringe when a kid in a primered Honda Civic and a loud muffler wants to go, because I know that it's not the strong who survive that game, it's the lucky. My son has a good friend who is building a 360 horse engine to put in his Mustang. He always asks me if I think it will beat my Ferrari when he gets it done. I just tell him yes. I know and he knows no matter how fast he makes it when we park our cars in the garage each night I still have a Ferrari and he still has a Mustang. I am actually encouraged that "ricers" are on this site. I don't think it is from contempt on their part. I think it is because they respect the marque, and probably even aspire to owning one someday. In my case I came in the other day and found that my son's "Tricked-out Sports Import" computer wallpaper has been replaced with a 348 Spider wallpaper. Maybe there is hope for the future. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 988 Registered: 3-2002 |
Damn Tim, you got me on a technicality. Actually, I was keeping with the original topic, but just because gumballers drive pricier cars doesn't change anything in my eyes. Granted, they're not a 365-day-a-year risk, but a hazard nonetheless. We've just got so many horrible daily drivers around here, I don't have the luxury of worrying about an F40 taking me out! I often wonder what foreigners must think the first time they experience our urban highways. | ||
| RockStar (Remix)
New member Username: Remix Post Number: 33 Registered: 3-2003 |
You can always do what I did. A few years back I had a Prelude VTEC (stock - daily car - no big deal) and it used to constantly attract these nitwits in the Type R junkers. I was in a bad mood one afternoon and a couple of these punks kept revving next to me while I was driving - falling behind, then speeding up and getting next to me, honking their horn and laughing. I just swerved the car at them with the intention of taking out their front fender (why did I care? - it was a cheap car & I can get another). The driver locked up his breaks pretty quick and I took over his lane. Yes, I was trying to hit them. Yes, I was in a bad mood. No, I don't behave like that often. In any event, that freaked them out pretty bad and they ended up leaving me alone. REMIX | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3157 Registered: 6-2001 |
I just saw the trailer for the movie. WTF is with the flames coming out of the exhausts at all times? | ||
| Tim N (Timn88)
Advanced Member Username: Timn88 Post Number: 3156 Registered: 6-2001 |
Jack, by your definition everyone who participated in the Gumball, and more than a few people here, are ricers. | ||
| Thomas Saupe (Tom_s)
New member Username: Tom_s Post Number: 47 Registered: 1-2003 |
I've seen as many jerks in traffic driving Bimmers as I have Ricers. A moron's a moron no matter what he's driving. I only wish they'd turn the radios down to a level where I don't have to hear it ten blocks away. | ||
| DJ (Godfather)
Junior Member Username: Godfather Post Number: 117 Registered: 11-2002 |
Personally I'm bothered by the senior citizen that can't hear or see behind the wheel of a car driving a huge Lincoln. A kid in a 115hp Honda doesn't bother me, actually makes me laugh. | ||
| Jack (Gilles27)
Member Username: Gilles27 Post Number: 976 Registered: 3-2002 |
What people find annoying is the "rice-racers" who drive recklessly, in and out of traffic, and try continuously to bait others into a race. I don't give a damn what a person does with his or her time and money, and I even respect those who choose to modify a car. It obviously shows some passion. But when I'm put at risk on the road, minding my own business, because some idiot has something to prove, then that gets annoying. I don't appreciate some teenager endangering my wife and I, tailgating us within inches, hoping to draw me into a challenge. These types are the ones who give car modifiers a bad rap. | ||
| G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
Junior Member Username: Wfo_racer Post Number: 125 Registered: 5-2002 |
That's funny "Hot Rodders =Real Racing" Ricers are morons. Would this be the same guys that would run 600hp 4000lb bricks on stock suspensions ,drum brakes , crap steering ? Have you been spanked by some kid in a Honda? Man you sound like a geezer. Why does some kid in a modded car bother people so much? Ignore them if you don't want to race them. How easy is that. So none of you that are offended by them have never done something stupid in a car. Wow do you guys walk on water too? | ||
| William H (Countachxx)
Advanced Member Username: Countachxx Post Number: 2600 Registered: 2-2001 |
I saw it last night, those muscle cars were Sweet & I saw my apt building in Miami on the big screen 3x. Good to see my hood while I am up in CT for the summer. Most of the movie was crap, a few good chases the 2 "Stars" had the stupidest cheapass cars with expensive paint jobs. Funniest part is where 1 assclown in revving his 4 cyl 2.0L next to a Dodge Hemi Challenger at the start line, then the Hemi driver revs his engine LOL | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 902 Registered: 11-2002 |
Michael, Yes, in the first movie a 355 Spider gets beaten by a modified Supra TT. Yes I saw the damn movie. I'll probably see the new one too. Cheers | ||
| Michael Zaic (Mikez_nj)
New member Username: Mikez_nj Post Number: 22 Registered: 12-2002 |
In the first movie, didn't someone race a Ferrari and the Ferrari lost? I hate that movie, and I hate those shopping cart looking cars. | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 46 Registered: 5-2003 |
ROFL.. too funny peter | ||
| PeterS (Peters)
Member Username: Peters Post Number: 631 Registered: 1-2003 |
Maybe a commercial spoof would be on line...A fully aftermarket loaded Civic pulls up to a red light next to a 355. The camera zooms in on the Civic and the caption reads 'Don't be that guy'! | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 43 Registered: 5-2003 |
BTW.. what I was watching was on PPV.. it was called "street racing the real deal" Filmed by the losers that actually go out and do this stupid crap. So don't try to compare them to "hotrodders" of the old days.. they were more geared towards real racing... not being morons. Plus the "hotrodders" used real cars... American Iron.. not jap tin | ||
| Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
New member Username: 86mondial32 Post Number: 42 Registered: 5-2003 |
I just watched two hours of the so called "modern hotroders".. nope... just abunch of jerks with souped up jap crap. No respect and no talent.And BTW.. street racing is wrong and dangerous. Then again most of the punks I screw into the ground with my Esprit ( no cats, modified boost and a few other tweeks= Sub 5 sec 0-60)would not last more than a few secs on a real road course. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 1031 Registered: 9-2001 |
The local news in Houston is making the opening of this movie a very big deal. I just viewed a 15 minute report on Houston street racing. The media seems to be feeding alot of viewers that kids after finishing the movie go on a massive street racing frenzy. It's also Hot Import Nights weekend so I'm sure that going to fuel even more fire. The strange thing is Houston Police are saying there are not enough cops to patrol Westheimer street racing, yea right. It's going to be a long weekend. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 856 Registered: 5-2002 |
Watching the news this evening.. Big story on drag race after the movie leading to a big wreck.. They also anounced that anyone caught racing will now have their license revoked and manditory jail time.. WOW! It was never like this when I was growing up... | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 403 Registered: 6-2002 |
G.Peters- Yep, pretty sure that's him! Car's white, I belive gold mugen wheels, and fast as all hell. One lap I don't think he got it pointing entirely straight untill turn 8's entry. I know he and Aaron Bitterman duke it out much S2000 is a great cheap fun track car. Fun to watch 'em hammer Z06s! Best! Ben. | ||
| G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
Junior Member Username: Wfo_racer Post Number: 122 Registered: 5-2002 |
Ben, Is that Hayashi? I'm having a six piston big brake package with a brake bias valve done to my S2000. We are headed to Thunderhill after Comptech does the Penske shocks . So far it's been a robust errand getting car. I bought mine about a year ago. Have done about 6 track events so far. Cool deal. | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 400 Registered: 6-2002 |
Ricers = stock automatic civic with 19"s and a neon kit. Impressive modern performance car = Toyota Supra/Skyline/what-have-you with big single turbo making 800+ hp and the stock driveline handling it just fine thanks. I have a great deal of respect for the latter. The lap record holder for Sears Point is a blown S2000 (you can tell it's him, he's the only S2000 LIGHTING UP both slicks on the exit, hell, most of the line of turn 7. <a > Best! Ben. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1243 Registered: 5-2002 |
Exactly. If there was a fried catfish restaurant opening up down the road from the car show and it was willing to pay more money to the models, those girls would be smiling and holding up big platters of steaming hot catfish! Would you like fries with that fake smile? | ||
| Steve (I_love_ferraris)
New member Username: I_love_ferraris Post Number: 32 Registered: 6-2003 |
William is right. It's all about the money. | ||
| William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member Username: Solipsist Post Number: 1030 Registered: 9-2001 |
>>>And you gotta respect any crowd that can attract the girls like the NOPI Nationals.<<< You must understand with NOPI, it's about selling after market car parts. Pure & simple. Ever think about why the bikini girls are there? Money. Look at the website, it's a contest. http://www.nopinationals.com/nats_2k3_class_swimsuit.htm I don't think the girls are doing it to be nice or out of the kindness of their hearts, it�s a way to get exposure (maybe for modeling or acting jobs) with all the sponsors at the event, there�s a lot of opportunity for these girls. SEX SELLS! Go stand in line for an autographed poster & let me know how they charge you. FYI, Ferrari does have scantily clad beautiful girls, but we never had to advertise it. ;-) | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 372 Registered: 4-2003 |
I respect your opinion, but anything that sounds like a mistuned back pack blower will never be impressive in my eyes. I have just been around too many "real" cars. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 888 Registered: 11-2002 |
I think the term ricer will probably polarize itself in the future. It'll weed out the morons from the people doing some pretty impressive stuff. I have an awful lot of respect for what some of these guys can do. The majority? Dangerous behavior and overall assenine attitude towards competition. Cheers | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 370 Registered: 4-2003 |
Back in the day I saw the "Herbie The Love Bug" type VWs pulling wheelies of the line for a sub 12 second 1/4 mile. I was not impressed. It sounded like a nat or a mosquito, really annoying. | ||
| Horsefly (Arlie)
Intermediate Member Username: Arlie Post Number: 1240 Registered: 5-2002 |
The higher the RPM, the faster the engine wear, the quicker they end up in the scrap metal yard. And the American iron just keeps rolling along. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 368 Registered: 4-2003 |
James, I totally agree. | ||
| James Adams (Madmaxx)
Junior Member Username: Madmaxx Post Number: 140 Registered: 11-2002 |
Why are they disrespected? Because they are lame. They weave in and out of people, have the loudest resonating exhaust they can (and an unmuffled 4cyl is not a pleasent sound). They crowd the parking lots at night. Last time I checked, I didn't see a 70 chevelle buzzing people at a 100mph highway race. These kids are friggin retarted too. They only know what they read in mags and what they learned from F&F. People who tune imports to make them fast are one thing, but the neon-light sporting ricer freaks are the ones that need to fade away and do it fast. MM | ||
| Hill Bullock (Mrpotential)
New member Username: Mrpotential Post Number: 15 Registered: 12-2002 |
And you gotta respect any crowd that can attract the girls like the NOPI Nationals. Check out the bikini contest pics at nopinationals.com (I think that is the URL; at work and cannot verify). Are there Ferrari events which can boast as many scantily clad beautiful girls? ;) I am guessing not... | ||
| Jeff Green (Carguy)
Member Username: Carguy Post Number: 312 Registered: 10-2002 |
I agree with G.Peters about the ricers. In my younger days, we hopped up cars from the 50s and 60s whether they were muscle cars or not. The ricers are the new backyard hotrods of today. When I'm working on the TR some of the local boys stop by to talk and hang out in my shop. They are very repsectful - at least so far. I try and be as polite as I can, show good manners, and set a good example with a good attitude. They are truly interested in the Ferrari. I also ask them questions in return about their cars, and they are obviously as proud of them as I am of mine. And some are VERY quick. One 20 year old fellow has an Eagle Talon AWD with a big turbo and water injection, tricked out head, and it sounds very mean. He's still debugging it but says his 0-60 time is well under 4 seconds. I've seen him launch and it's SCARY quick. But there are some A##holes in every crowd, but we fcar owners are immune to this right? | ||
| G.Peters (Wfo_racer)
Junior Member Username: Wfo_racer Post Number: 119 Registered: 5-2002 |
A question , why are "Ricers looked down on, but "Hot Rodders" admired ? Both did the same things in their respective era's . Like I said before I have no problems with kids that mod their cars. If I win great if they win that's fine too. At least they are driving and driving hard. We own sportscars right? We are supposed to drive like Enzo intended us. Not putz around like old ladies. WFO -from the family man. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 357 Registered: 4-2003 |
>>600 HP out of a 3.0 litre<< Sounds like a definite axle/CV joint snapper to me. May not be much of a race after the first five feet when the drivetrain goes KABOOM. | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 575 Registered: 4-2002 |
Racing the ricers for money can be a big mistake. Some of those guys are running superchargers, nitrous and water injection, getting 600+hp from a 3.0 liter 6. Be sure you pick a poseaur and not a racer... | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 855 Registered: 5-2002 |
I also heard that the cops are on red alert nation wide.. They will be at the theaters and also setting speed traps.. "Let's be carful out there" - Hill Street Blues | ||
| Steve (I_love_ferraris)
New member Username: I_love_ferraris Post Number: 26 Registered: 6-2003 |
Race the "ricers" for money. Make a few bucks on the side. | ||
| P. Thomas (Ferrari_fanatic)
Member Username: Ferrari_fanatic Post Number: 355 Registered: 4-2003 |
Yeah, for the ricers it is just like they exited the theater from watching "Rocky" 1-5. They are all pumped up and ready to take on the world. I ignore them. No street racing for me thanks. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 878 Registered: 11-2002 |
I'm just afraid they'll hit me. See Allan's post on that knucklehead with the 355. Cheers | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 253 Registered: 1-2003 |
its not worth the challenge against the "ricers". let them get in trouble. they need to prove themselves. | ||
| Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member Username: Stickanddice Post Number: 876 Registered: 11-2002 |
Ahhh...the Bongo Friendlee... Drifting or Doriftu, is actually quite popular in Japan. Sick things, what some of these guys can do. Rally racing with slides and all, on asphalt. Cheers | ||
| Dan 360 (Dan360)
New member Username: Dan360 Post Number: 50 Registered: 2-2003 |
:-) I find most 'fast and furious' guys drive up beside me at lights and ask me to rev the engine, rather than wanting to race - they then want me to blast away in first to hear the engine. As far as I can see an enthusiast is an enthusiast. On a related story - if you ever get to Japan (I lived there for 3yrs), you must go and drive the Hakone-skyline. Its a toll road throught the mountains south of Tokyo and is an awesome road to drive. Two things about it - Sat/Sun is full of people driving 33mph in their Toyota Picnic or Bongo Friendlee (those are real car names in Japan). Friday night is oversteer night. If you drive up the front section of the road its covered in rubber - the local Nissan Skyline drivers challenge each other to drive the first few miles sideways round every corner. I drove it several times early on a weekday morning and had it to myself. It really reminds me of the opening scene of the original "Italian Job" movie - Miura through mountain roads, cool shades etc. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1297 Registered: 8-2001 |
I'll be driving mine. Let them fly by and get the tickets, accidents, and generally make a fool of themselves. | ||
| Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member Username: Ronsupercar Post Number: 854 Registered: 5-2002 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Today is opening day. Keep your Ferraris at home for the next month..Every Ricer will want to challenge you after this movie... Ron |