| Author | Message | ||
| Michael Zaic (Mikez_nj)
New member Username: Mikez_nj Post Number: 23 Registered: 12-2002 |
Was it a foglight fixture?  | ||
| Terry Springer (Tspringer)
Member Username: Tspringer Post Number: 586 Registered: 4-2002 |
Well, my Daytona is not a concours car, but anyone would be very hard pressed to find any obvious flaws in it. In the past 3 weeks its spent time in parking lots at Lowes, Circuit City, Barnes and Noble, Chili's, Outback and its done drive through duty at Dairy Queen and McDonalds. The window kid at McD's thought it was a corvette. He even asked if its was a '65 model... The car has done over 1000 miles since I bought it, no problems and it does indeed need a bath now! What the heck... keeping them beautiful is part of the fun, but DRIVING is the whole point. | ||
| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 680 Registered: 11-2001 |
Heh. I drove my 328 to Lowes for some tile a few months back, and someone driving a 308 pulled in next to me. He was there for a light fixture | ||
| wm hart (Whart)
Intermediate Member Username: Whart Post Number: 1222 Registered: 12-2001 |
Could be a great theme: "With the money you save here, you could..." | ||
| Ali Haas (Aehaas)
New member Username: Aehaas Post Number: 20 Registered: 5-2003 |
Home Depot and Lowes in my 575 M aehaas | ||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 107 Registered: 8-2002 |
I see the makings of a Home Depot advertising campaign in here somewhere . . . | ||
| Mike Charness (Mcharness)
Member Username: Mcharness Post Number: 613 Registered: 8-2002 |
My car *is* near perfect (regional multiple concours winner) but I *still* occasionally use it for errands. Home Depot or Lowes have had this car in their parking lot many times... | ||
| Don Vollum (Donv)
Junior Member Username: Donv Post Number: 101 Registered: 1-2002 |
I drive my cars to Home Depot as well. Usually the Mondial, just seems to work out that way (but I've taken the 365 there too). With a convertible, carrying shovels and such is no problem! | ||
| Bryan Phillips (Bryanp)
Junior Member Username: Bryanp Post Number: 106 Registered: 8-2002 |
I drove my 1968 v-12 to Depot a couple of months ago and loaded about 120 pounds of slate into the trunk (on plastic, not the Wilton wool). The loading dock guys loved it and my pnuematic self-levellers worked just fine! Right now, the carcasses of several dozen bugs that met their deaths at 100mph are pasted to the Queen's nose. I promise I'll wash them off tonight. | ||
| Ken (Allyn)
Member Username: Allyn Post Number: 975 Registered: 10-2001 |
As a car ages, especially performance cars, things start to get out of line a bit. Panels don't meet exactly flush, paint fades a bit, wheels get dings...my 31 year old car is not a concourse show car, it's a driver with honest age. Looks beautiful to me! | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1311 Registered: 8-2001 |
I drive my car a lot so it's no show car. Who's got time to detail the car when stopping at the post office, bank, or Home Depot? I just park it and go take care of business. It'll be cleaned up when I get home. | ||
| Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk Post Number: 294 Registered: 12-2002 |
Jim - I bet we have the lens you need in stock and at a $ less than a Domestic reseller..! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 1846 Registered: 7-2001 |
Put me firmly in the 'my car's not perfect' and 'I park at Home Depot' crowd. I noticed last night as I got home from another weekend away that my Ferrari is filthy. Brake dust, the dust that blows out of the exhaust, the little tracks of water spray from the water on the street, the interior needing vacuumed. It's gross. But, I haven't had time to wash it. It's a car, it won't quit running or entertain me less because of it's current condition. I'm not proud that I've let it go, but my life is very busy and other things take precedence. I also have a busted lens that has been that way since I bought it. I've made a few attempts to replace it, but both have failed for different reasons. (I have a Euro lens for sale if anybody needs one! :-) ) I drive my car to all kinds of different places, and have even let valets park it. It doesn't mean I love my car any less, it just means that to me it IS just a car. | ||
| Willis Huang (Willis360)
Intermediate Member Username: Willis360 Post Number: 1310 Registered: 8-2001 |
From those pictures, Doug's boxer looked fine to me. | ||
| Jeff Howe (Ferrari_uk)
Member Username: Ferrari_uk Post Number: 293 Registered: 12-2002 |
At the risk of making this worse (he he)....Paul you should have put quotes around your Steve Rochlin trade mark quote....
:-) | ||
| Grant (Navyseal2b)
New member Username: Navyseal2b Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2003 |
okay, if it came across that i believed a ferrari should not be driven or if i insulted you, Doug, then I apologize for that. I did not mean to say that the car was in poor shape or that Doug was mistreating it, just that i, personally, go the extra mile to be able to both drive and detail, and I feel like a car of this caliber should receive the same treatment. I am a fanatic, and i understand that not everyone is interested in the same exact things that I am. I was impressed in general with the condition of the car as a 20 year old vehicle, and believe that Doug does take very good care of it. I would have liked to see a few more things addressed, that's all. I honestly don't remember what it was about the car that lead me to this opinion, so i'll place my foot soundly in my mouth on that one, but that was my impression on seeing the car. I dont take back any of what i've said, but i hope that you all understand I meant no harm by it. -Grant- | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 319 Registered: 2-2001 |
Jennifer, No, I don't know your fiance, but that doesn't mean I haven't met him. Maybe if I ever make it to an Auto-x this summer, I'll try to find him. I'll be the one with the Porsche 550 Spyder reproduction with its tail hanging out all over the placed. | ||
| will h (Willh)
Junior Member Username: Willh Post Number: 86 Registered: 3-2003 |
From the photos by Grant of Louisville, KY, not hotlinked here, Doug's car looks great to me. And the guy even drives it. Doug, if you're ever in DC, drop me a line and I'll buy you lunch. I empathize with the wax it and park it guys - they appreciate the cars as works of art - hard to argue. Truly, to each, his own. Me, I'm a driver. Took my 360 to Home Depot the other day to pick up an air filter. Saw a red 360 there the day before. Now that I think about it, cover the engine with a board, take off the rear lid, and you'd have the El Camino of champions. Is anyone else bemused by appeals to netiquette? A Wild Wild West sin city dominated by porn and gambling sites, and we tut tut when the caps key gets stuck. Does Rob invent these threads to keep post #s high? | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 260 Registered: 1-2003 |
Brian, I got your point. Enjoy the drive. | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 331 Registered: 3-2002 |
Me. And my Ferrari has been parked at Wal-mart, Tom Thumb, Albertson's, Target, and various other similar places. It worries me each time... and I definitely pick the spot *very* carefully... but if you like to drive the Ferrari as often as possible, then sometimes you're going to end up needing to make a quick stop at places you normally wouldn't choose to park your Ferrari. There are some places I absolutely will not park my Ferrari... and I will never valet park it... but most Home Depots have some spots that are reasonably safe... the risks easily justified by the fact that the alternative is to drive the Ferrari a lot less (a cost that any non-museum-piece Ferrari owner should NOT accept lightly). | ||
| Brian Kennedy (Kennedy)
Member Username: Kennedy Post Number: 330 Registered: 3-2002 |
Hear, hear! And a Ferrari isn't going to get damaged by typical dust/dirt... its a car. Now bird droppings are removed the moment they are noticed. And when I do bother to wash it, I do so properly... and it gets a good wax job. But I'd much rather hear a dirty Ferrari at 6K rpm than see an immaculate one sitting quiet. And I'd rather drive a Ferrari than either of those... so, I spend as little time as possible cleaning my Ferrari... that's just wasting drive time! | ||
| Paul Bianco (Paulie_b)
Member Username: Paulie_b Post Number: 259 Registered: 1-2003 |
who would park their Boxer at Home Depot regardless of the condition? | ||
| Jennifer (Boosted)
New member Username: Boosted Post Number: 4 Registered: 6-2003 |
Maybe you know my fiancee then too. George Frazier? | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 318 Registered: 2-2001 |
Grant, I am quoting you here to give you the credit "but i was suspicious because the condition immediately struck me as less than what i would have if i were an "F car" owner." That is an insult to me. Not every Ferrari out there is Pebble Beach quality, and not every "F car owner" has tons of money. You have now critisized the condition of my car two or three times, yet you weren't totally positive that it was a real Ferrari to begin with. What are you comparing it to? A 2002 Modena or 550 that you saw? The Barrett Jackson auction on TV? The car that had a pictorial in a magazine? Not every Ferrari owner has a "Pebble Beach" concours car and many cannot afford them. I personally cannot afford the best in the country. I have owned two Ferraris, driven a couple more and seen many. I would rate my car in the top 85% for a 20+ year old Ferrari. 10% of the cars nicer than mine probably get driven less than 250 miles a year. I think you have the wrong impression of the typical Ferrari owner. Some have the luxary of being able to own them without a single worry about costs. I wish I was one of them, or hope that someday I will be. But there are many that just love cars and cannot afford "the best". Also, I do enjoy trying to maintain the car as best as possible, but when you have 3 other cars, a 16 month old child, a wife, full time job, a house etc... one doesn't have hundreds of hours to worry about or work on every single detail on the car like you do. I am very lucky to get the couple of hours on a nice weekend to take it out for a while. Once a month I may get time to clean it. Personally, I would rather drive it than clean it. Jennifer, Yes I do know Bruce. He has worked on my past Ferrari. I have also been to the local Auto-x before in a different car, but this year, I have been away on weekends that they were running. Also, the car I now will run will have to compete against Bruce in his open wheeled racer, and mine is a skinny tired replica of 1957 Vintage. I am not out to win, but I sure will get smoked. | ||
| Jennifer (Boosted)
New member Username: Boosted Post Number: 3 Registered: 6-2003 |
The difference I see here is that I signed up to address the issue as the owner of the other board which is being inundatated with registrations for this thread. As such I wanted to post here to say, thanks but no thanks...the thread is gone. Please stop registering. I dont dislike Ferrari and I may even look around, in fact I probably know several people on this board. Im more of a Lotus woman at the moment. Grant, the Vanquish comes to Autocrosses on occassion. Doug, you may know a friend of mine who works on most of the vintage machines around here. Bruce Domeck. | ||
| Crawford White (Crawford)
Junior Member Username: Crawford Post Number: 70 Registered: 3-2003 |
Grant - Thanks for setting the record straight. I've found that the majority of Ferrari owners are gearhead nerds; no different from anyone else. I live outside of Nashville. If you're ever in the area, please give me a call and we'll go out driving. I'm always looking for an excuse to take the car out. And be prepared to have to do some of the driving, too! | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 413 Registered: 6-2002 |
Jennifer- I don't get it. you pulled the thread because people were registering on your board only to view it, yet you have done the same here? If you intend to post and contribute to F-chat, then I bid you welcome. I'd like to extend the same invitation to Grant. I think we have a great group here, and I would like you both to participate in it! If you are logging on to chat about cars in general, then you obviously have enthusiasm of some sort. Wether you own an F-car or just want to (like me!) this is the place! If your intentions aren't to contribute, well, then isn't it like the proberbial pot and kettle thing? Best! Ben. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 652 Registered: 9-2002 |
Grant, well lets start a fresh, welcome to the site! Best place to be if you have or dont have a Ferrari, the only prereq we ask is an admiration of Ferrari. | ||
| Grant (Navyseal2b)
New member Username: Navyseal2b Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2003 |
Wow. i let this go a bit too long without responding. first of all, i completely believed the car was real, my comment was "but it looked pretty legit to me." I know fieros pretty well having helped rebuild one, and i could tell it was not, but i was suspicious because the condition immediately struck me as less than what i would have if i were an "F car" owner. I have a lowly BMW 325 but i have put literally hundreds of hours of care into it in the last 2 years. It gets driven as well, but its still my pride and joy and i make sure it always looks that way. If i owned a ferrari, i'd treat it the same. I am not saying the car was in bad condition or that i didnt like anything about it, i was just commenting that it was less than how i would personally keep it. I dont think that's "disrespect" of the owner, as was accused, either, its just a comment between "dudes with cars." As for the crediting of my words, all i was saying was that when i first looked at the thread - because of the way new posts appear at top - it appeared someone was straight copying my words as their own. General internet etiquette, also, is to NOT 'hot link' images like this, but that doesnt bother me at all. I apologize for jumping on that, because i should have read the entire thread more thoroughly before commenting, but anyone who doesnt think it was ambiguous is being overly critical. Finally, the seeming stereotypes here of both groups - us as young punk ricers and Ferrari owners as rich pricks - are both wrong. I never brought it up, though some of the most recent posts here seem to imply that. So what if we were all high school honda owners? I can tell you that louisville streets is home to an UNBELIEVABLE amount of knowledge on all cars and all aspects of motorsport. We would love to have more of this type of car at our events and my invitation was sincere. I even think that Doug could enjoy himself at our meetings or legitimate race events, believe it or not. If you notice, i closed my original post with a comment on how i'd like to know more about the car. I do apologize for some of the other LS members that thought the car was not legit, but you have to understand that doubt was not inappropriate. Anyways, i apologize for rambling, but i wanted to put an end to the misinterpretations here. I hold no hard feelings towards any of you and hope that you feel the same. -Grant- P.S. Jenn, Vanquish??? When, Where? I've never seen one! :p | ||
| Patrick Denonville (Arizonaguy)
Junior Member Username: Arizonaguy Post Number: 192 Registered: 4-2003 |
Jennifer, would you like a cookie? | ||
| Jennifer (Boosted)
New member Username: Boosted Post Number: 2 Registered: 6-2003 |
Ricky Alessi,et al. I think your comments toward me and others are a bit sanctimonius. You complain Grant was rude to you and yet you sit and berate me and the site in general when it was Grant that made the post. To quote you..."Its obvious you guys would want a Ferrari at your events". Thanks but no thanks. We have ferrari's at our events, and vipers, and DeLoreans and Super7's, even a Vanquish from LRC on occassion, etc... what "we" want we want at "our events" be it SCCA solo II, or a evening or afternoon meet are nice people. Not condescending people. With attitudes such as this you would find yourself very unwelcome even if you pulled up in a genuine McLaren. | ||
| Vincent (Vincent348)
Member Username: Vincent348 Post Number: 526 Registered: 4-2003 |
I don't know, When I read the post from the other board it seemed to me that the guy seemed a little incredulous to seeing such a cool car at Home Depot. Grant seems genuinely interested, it's tough sometimes to tell the real tone in a written message on a chat room. Hell, you have to have some interest to actually take pictures and wonder if it was the real thing. He just hasn't seen enough of them to spot the real deal right away. Grant, If you are interested in F-cars and want to learn more about them, this is the place. Welcome. Vincent. | ||
| Andrew-Phillip Goalen (Andrewg)
New member Username: Andrewg Post Number: 23 Registered: 9-2002 |
I'm glad he's not in England, he'd have a fit to see some of the things I've put in my car's from the DIY store, let alone how dorty the cars get(had a cement mixer in my 911 yesterday, damn thing still didnt go any quicker!) | ||
| Rikky Alessi (Ralessi)
Junior Member Username: Ralessi Post Number: 147 Registered: 5-2002 |
Sorry, but give me a break. You take pictures of his car, call it fake and end up looking like an idiot when you find out that it is real (also criticizing its aesthetics after a 100 mile drive). He posts on here, and Grant says that he didn't properly cite the posts? Does he want a Bibliography in MLA style or what? Then, probably feeling pretty dumb for what he had said previously, and not wanting to feel like he is totally wrong, says again that it "needs TLC" and invites him to join you guys? Why would Doug want to join you guys with this kind of treatment? It is quite funny actually, and this is the message that Mark is trying to get across. It is obvious that you guys would like a Ferrari at your events, but you can't admit when you make a mistake! Unbelievable. | ||
| Jennifer Tipton (Boosted)
New member Username: Boosted Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2003 |
Hello there, Actually I removed the thread from the board because we had numerous people registering just to look at it, never posting, then logging off. I saw the counter post here and wasnt too pleased with the bashing tone, so I nixed the entire thread. While I can appreciate your comments and feelings toward grant , I dont appreciate the broad generalization of the web board and local people in general. Most of the members of LS are in their 20's however quite a few are in their 30's 40's and 50's. Had you looked outside of spotted forum you would have discovered we have quite a large user base with very diverse cars from Forumula Fords, Porsche Speedsters, Dinan built BMW's, all the way to Geo trackers and base model honda civics. To Mr. Lambert. I believe Grants invitation to come out and join the group/scene was sincere. Im sure Doug would not be made fun of. I think Grant was on the same track as Doug and the rest of the folks who posted here as far as "enjoying" ones car. There are many opportunities locally to showcase his Ferrari, in fact all today there is an Autocross at a local venue. Cheers Jennifer | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 317 Registered: 2-2001 |
You never know what someone is really trying to say with typed post and the words are often misconstrued(?). I really don't think anyone was bashing my car. I just thought the Fiero thing was pretty funny. However, some discussion must have heated up last night on that board because the thread has been removed by the moderator. Maybe I started getting bashed? | ||
| Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member Username: Artherd Post Number: 411 Registered: 6-2002 |
ROFL, this is too funny. Doug- I love your responce on the other board "what kind of idoit" funny stuff. You took his responce here better than I would have. Pretty nervy to ask you to 'credit' his pictures and casually slight your car ?! I want to know where I can get a 512BB's foglight for $25. Or the engine rebuilt for $8k for that matter. LOL!!! "Do a major service" funny Will. Yeah, I crawled my way in there, and his timing belts looked like they haden't been washed in WEEKS! Hilarious! TLC? The car looks like it needs a clutch drop and some sideways action on some good roads to me, that's about it from the outside. With the flat 12, who needs a radio? Grant, I'm 22, and you kind of make us youngsters look like wankers there bud. F-car owners are just dudes with cars, like anybody else. You innitially came off as a bit of an enthusiest, but your comments here show a pretty stiff lack of respect for the car and it's owner. I urge you to correct the situation. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 640 Registered: 9-2002 |
oh yeah, I want a 318 too. | ||
| Omar (Auraraptor)
Member Username: Auraraptor Post Number: 639 Registered: 9-2002 |
Doug, try using the /quote{your quote in here} with a back slash instead of forwardslash next time...its just nice to know and prevents such accusations.
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| Mark Lambert (Mlambert890)
Junior Member Username: Mlambert890 Post Number: 86 Registered: 4-2002 |
Credit the words and pictures? It was pretty obvious that Dan had asked Doug to post snippets from the thread since registration was required, and there is absolutely nothing there that anyone would want to claim is their own writing. As for the pictures... THEY'RE PICTURES OF HIS CAR! LOL Did anyone ask HIS permission before snapping pics of his car and posting them??? This thread is almost surreal. Bunch of high school kids insisting they spotted a Fiero, then saying anybody who would drive a Ferrari to Home Depot is an idiot, then when they get busted and proven wrong, is there an apology? Nah... just chastize the guy for not putting the "proper TLC into his car". Then, for the grand finale, an invite to "the local events", because you know, he's been made to feel so welcome he'd really want to show up for that so people could talk more $hit to him! ROFLMAO... this one's a keeper... And people say F car owners are snobs?! The arrogance displayed above is amazing! | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 314 Registered: 2-2001 |
I am not offended, just having fun. The little smilies did not show up where intended. | ||
| Tyler (Bahiaau)
Member Username: Bahiaau Post Number: 762 Registered: 12-2001 |
Doug, don't sweat it. A dirty Ferrari is a happy Ferrari. | ||
| will h (Willh)
Junior Member Username: Willh Post Number: 80 Registered: 3-2003 |
"What kind of TLC?" Under the circumstances, with no priors/first offense, I'd let you go with some sort of major service and a full detail. Try not to embarrass us again. ;-) By the way, I saw a (properly detailed) red 360 at my local Home Depot, in Maryland yesterday. I was in my Suburban, but then the shovel would have been a tough fit in the F car. Must have been the rare bit of sun, my wife and I took our (properly detailed) car out for a spin as well. Doug, a 100 mile fun drive & no radio, just that wonderful engine - you are a gentleman. I've got to get a 512. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 5196 Registered: 12-2000 |
LOL - this is hilarious. | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 312 Registered: 2-2001 |
What kind of TLC? I had just driven on a 100 mile fun drive. Do I need to wash and wax it before stopping at Home Depot and the grocery store? The only thing the car needs is the radio installed. I didn't mean to not credit your post, but I didn't know how to get it to show up except copy/paste. | ||
| Grant (Navyseal2b)
New member Username: Navyseal2b Post Number: 1 Registered: 6-2003 |
Hey, that was my thread on Louisville Streets. I know you saw my reply there, so i won't go into it too much, but i will repeat that this car definitely needs some TLC and I would appreciate if you would do a better job of crediting your source of words and pictures. When i first glanced at the thread here, i thought someone was straight plagarizing my post. After seeing Dan's request, it makes more sense, but still... Anyways, its a very nice car. You should bring it out to some of the local events and stuff so we can see more of it ///MT | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 642 Registered: 9-2002 |
HAHAHAH. Great response ;) --Dan | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 311 Registered: 2-2001 |
I saw a red Ferrari 512 Berlinetta Boxer at Home Depot this afternoon around 5:00. A passer by told my friend (who found it and called me) that it was a kit car, but it looked pretty legit to me. It did have some minor flaws, but was overall very nice for an early 80s era sports car. Anyways, i shot a few pictures: http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/fquarter.jpg http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/fquarter2.jpg http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/front.jpg http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/rear.jpg http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/rquarter.jpg http://www.navyseal2b.com/images/Cars/sightings/Ferrari2/side.jpg anyone know anything about this vehicle? I saw the very same car today.. I'm pretty sure it's a Fiero kit or something.. otherwise it wouldn't be parked in Home Depot's parking lot. And also, it just didn't look as clean as a Ferrari should. Looks like it has a busted foglight (driver side). Considering typical Ferrari owners don't feel too bad about dropping $8,000+ on a basic engine rebuild I see a $25~ foglight being busted as a sign of a kitcar. You dont see too many 512s but when you do they are almost always pristine, the foglight just seems odd to me. Oh, I meant to post this in Spotted yesterday but on my way to school I passed a red 318. Looked very nice. to a real sportscar I'd be almost inclined to believe it to be the true article here are a few pics and I think it compares very close , the wheel base in the Fiero was much shorter that what I think that showshttp://www5a.biglobe.ne.jp/~supercar/cars/ferrari_512BB.html I believe this is a kit car, the wheelbase is way too short. I did see an actual Ferrari like that a few months ago, you could tell the difference. I posted this: I think it looks real. Looks like the "broken fog" may just be from the angle of the sun. What kind of idiot would drive their 512bb to Home Depot? http://photos.yahoo.com/bc/ziggymer...otos.yahoo.com/ | ||
| Dan (Bobafett)
Member Username: Bobafett Post Number: 635 Registered: 9-2002 |
Won't let you view w/o registering... perhaps you could paste some of the better bits... --Dan | ||
| Doug meredith (Dougm)
Member Username: Dougm Post Number: 310 Registered: 2-2001 |
Looking for the local SCCA events, I came across a local chatroom. Upon looking at it under a "cars spotted" section, I found my 512bb mentioned. I think the board is mostly high school/college aged. Debate is if it a Fiero based kit. http://louisvillestreets.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=20005 |