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Adam (Fasttalk)
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Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 102
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Tuesday, June 10, 2003 - 10:25 pm:   

My Lamborghini LM American

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Gabe V (Racerxgto)
Junior Member
Username: Racerxgto

Post Number: 58
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:18 pm:   

Ahh...understood :-)

Personalized Lic. Plate Frame:

THE OTHER ONE

IS A FERRARI
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 970
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:13 pm:   

Gabe,

This might be redundant if you know already but I think Rijk's reason for having that little shield in the back is the gray Daytona he has as a stablemate to the Cayenne.

Cheers
Gabe V (Racerxgto)
Junior Member
Username: Racerxgto

Post Number: 57
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:06 pm:   

LOL...Porsche with a Ferrari sticker? Just a small identity crisis going on there.

Ferrari is smart not to 'follow' the SUV trend, because that's all it will ever be, a trend. Ferrari sets the pace of sports cars and other car manufacturers follow Ferrai's style...that's how it will always continue.

Lamborghini had the ultimate SUV (LM002) in the 80's. Though ugly, its was one of the few SUV's in its time that could reach roughly 180+ mph. With its 74 gallon fuel cell and slightly larger bored Countach engine gave it a range of appx. 600 miles. No other SUV to date has met that challenge.

Scott Mandell (Semandell)
Junior Member
Username: Semandell

Post Number: 53
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 8:54 pm:   

Towing capacity of the Porsche Cayenne is around 7600 lbs.
william speer (Wspeer)
Member
Username: Wspeer

Post Number: 265
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 7:17 pm:   

the laforza is an italian bodied vehicle that is assembled in california using ford bronco running gear. the vehicles are based on the the italian "magnum" military vehicle designed to withstand a bomb. you can still see them occasionally in italy (we saw one recently that was a police vehicle).

the chasis and the the body are so heavy duty that they were the first vehicle to "exceed the barrier" in dot crash testing. all the vehicles are based on 1989 manufactured chasis so they are not required to meet current dot specs even though you can buy a new model year vehicle. although the early cars had minor electrical problems, the newer ones are said to be very reliable. there is also a large degree of "factory"support for parts and service can be done by any ford dealership or mechanic (remember the bronco running gear). many people have referred to this truck as the "ferrari" truck due to the pininfarina relationship. i would be curious to hear from anyone who has had one or driven one. they are very cheap to buy in the used form and very expensive in the new form (around $60k). as for the styling, keep in mind these were designed in the mid eighties. compare this truck with any other mid eighties truck and the style and design are incredible.
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
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Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 870
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:30 pm:   

Hey!! Wait a minute. Doesn't Nika have a yellow Ferrari SUV.?.

That's what I remember in her profile.. Ask her where she got her's from... ;)
Jim E (Jimpo1)
Intermediate Member
Username: Jimpo1

Post Number: 1848
Registered: 7-2001
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:24 pm:   

What's the towing capacity of the Porsche?
Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member
Username: Kzma

Post Number: 202
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:10 pm:   

Liken it to Land Rover trying to build a sports car. No way..........stick with what you know and do very well!
GThomas (Ferrariartist)
Junior Member
Username: Ferrariartist

Post Number: 140
Registered: 2-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 11:19 am:   

dont see Ferrari EVER producing anything but sports cars/sedans...

Maserati, ... now THATS another story... i'm sure theres a few designers at Pinifarina chomping at the bit to design a SUV for Ferrari .. so if a design hits their fancy it will no doubtedly be given to Maserati... that Marque can hold up an SUV... i dont believe Ferrari can...

hence the Kubang... Ferrari engineering wrapped in a Maserati bow...

but they gotta do something about that name...

GT

ps i forget,,, did Pininfarina design the Kubang or did Guiguaro (sp?)?

pps heard rumors that even the future grandson of the 456 might be given to Maserati leaving Ferrari to concentrate on 2-seater sports cars and the 4XY the highest-end Maserati....
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
Intermediate Member
Username: Napolis

Post Number: 1579
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:48 am:   

Craig
My wife will use her Trubo Cayanne off road in the mud and snow and to pull horse trailer. I'll use it to tow as well. The variable ride height is very usefull.
Kevin Marcus (Rumordude)
Junior Member
Username: Rumordude

Post Number: 145
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:41 am:   

I used to think the ML55 was ugly, but the drive was nice and the low end torque was nice so i picked one up. Now that is one of our family's "all time highest miles ever put on a car before we sold it" cars. We just passed 30k. ;)

Ferrari will not make an SUV. My chips are on the maserati marquee instead - which i wouldn't be surprised to see in a few years.

Craig A (Milo)
Member
Username: Milo

Post Number: 254
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 10:35 am:   

The only off-roading that Cayenne will see is when someone backs over the rose garden. :-)

What is the purpose of an SUV when you will never use the sport or the utility part of it?
matt green (Mattg)
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Username: Mattg

Post Number: 25
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 9:27 am:   

the cayenne is the ugliest auto made. the new bubby suvs are the last straw in the death of the suv. Just wait. The late 90's suv fervor is over and suvs will now decline in sales every year for several years.... Damn porsche has removed all panache from the cars and made them in the most common part style. Porsche is almost off the list of cool cars. Afew more years of bubby rides and they will have lost any cache that they once held with the 930 turbo.

PLEASE dont destroy the fcar style with a mayonaise suv !!!
Ron Thomas (Ronsupercar)
Member
Username: Ronsupercar

Post Number: 866
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 9:04 am:   

The closest that Ferrari should ever come to an SUV is the 456.

THAT'S IT!!!
Steve (I_love_ferraris)
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Username: I_love_ferraris

Post Number: 35
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 9:03 am:   

How much for the Ferrari SUV?
Rijk Rietveld (Rijk365gtb4)
Junior Member
Username: Rijk365gtb4

Post Number: 237
Registered: 1-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 8:56 am:   

The Cayenne Turbo does not say it's a Porsche, so the shield confuses many people.
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Tyson Hall (Trhall)
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Username: Trhall

Post Number: 40
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:23 am:   

I am looking for investors for my own Laforza dealership. Any Takers?
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 941
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:17 am:   

Tyson,

They forgot to mention that it is ugly as sin too!

:-)

Cheers
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
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Username: Trhall

Post Number: 38
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:09 am:   

Has anybody heard anything about the Laforza?
Quote from Car and Driver
# "Laforza. It means 'the force, power or strength' in Italian. And although it uses an American Ford V-8 engine and a Chrysler four-wheel-drive system, the Laforza is indeed Italian. It has a suspension derived from a Fiat-built army truck, a sumptuous leather interior, and an all-steel body that spends nine hours going down the same Pininfarina line where the Ferrari Testarossa and the Cadillac Allant� are painted."
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Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 939
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:02 am:   

Adam, Kuzi,

I feel the same way, I just had to respond to that specific comment.

Reality catches up though. Wife is bugging me about a family car. I brought up the 456 and that got her thinking, but I think eventually I'm going to have to get a bigger car. But that's what the Kubang is for! If Maserati makes it. She likes the Cayenne, but only if it's a Turbo.

As for Ferrari, I sure hope that the Kubang is the closest they'll get to one.

Cheers
Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member
Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 100
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 2:00 am:   

:-)
Kuzi (Kzma)
Junior Member
Username: Kzma

Post Number: 200
Registered: 3-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:57 am:   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member
Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 99
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:56 am:   

but it is still an SUV.....
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 936
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:54 am:   

>>The Porsche Cayanne is missing the Wow factor.<<

An SUV that does better track times than a Carrera? WOW

An SUV that will embarrass everything but the exotic in a track? WOW

:-)

Cheers
Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member
Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 98
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:49 am:   

I do not sell cars at my auctions. I have to buy my cars the same way as everyone else.
Tyson Hall (Trhall)
New member
Username: Trhall

Post Number: 36
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 1:22 am:   

Adam, I saw that you are an auctioneer is that where you got your vehicles? Very nice 360 spider.
Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member
Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 94
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:57 am:   

LM is a much harder vehicle to drive. I drive the hummer almost every day, the LM only comes out a couple of times a month. When you drive the LM you have to use both hands and both feet all of the time, it is very difficult to even talk on the cell phone without an earpiece. the hummer practically drives itself and everyone moves out of your way :-) the LM they just want to drive beside you and look...
Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor

Post Number: 662
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:49 am:   

Adam, I hope she (he?) is treating you well. Must be fun. How does she compare to the H1?
Adam (Fasttalk)
Junior Member
Username: Fasttalk

Post Number: 93
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:48 am:   

I took my LM American out for a drive today, I think I get more attention in the LM than in any other vehicle I own... Also, it is a lot of fun to drive a V12, 5 speed monster of a truck. it is in a class of its own.

Omar (Auraraptor)
Member
Username: Auraraptor

Post Number: 659
Registered: 9-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:34 am:   

Well if they did, I hope it would be as good as when Lambo made there truck. I mean truck, not SUV, as the LM is too good to be termed meerly a SUV. :-)
Peter (Bubba)
Member
Username: Bubba

Post Number: 405
Registered: 5-2002
Posted on Monday, June 09, 2003 - 12:27 am:   

Not me! There are enough SUV choices out there and no need for Ferrari to jump on the bandwagon.
Scott Mandell (Semandell)
Junior Member
Username: Semandell

Post Number: 52
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 11:34 pm:   

I have a Cayenne Turbo and love it. Great vehicle and a blast to drive. And it gets tons of attention from all types if that's what you're looking for. Everyone in real life seems to love them, despite all the posts putting it down.

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Kendall Kim (Kenny)
Junior Member
Username: Kenny

Post Number: 58
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 11:07 pm:   

No, I don't see the point in a Ferrari SUV and the Ferrari wagon that was made, is a special one of a kind modification based on the 456gt for the Sultan of Brunei..

I must be one of them clueless yuppiewagon buyers,,, because I'd like to buy an X5 4.4 or Cayenne in a few years as an everyday driver, in anticipation of someday being able to have a Ferrari... They hardly have the "wow" factor as someone said, but they're much more stylish than a Lexus, or whatever it is Soccer moms are buying nowadays...
Aaron Williams (Aawil)
Junior Member
Username: Aawil

Post Number: 208
Registered: 8-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 10:12 pm:   

NOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Ben Cannon (Artherd)
Member
Username: Artherd

Post Number: 418
Registered: 6-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 10:02 pm:   

HELL NO!
Spyder (Spyder)
New member
Username: Spyder

Post Number: 23
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   

I would like to see it happen if it would be good looking and fast.

It could happen, Ferrari did make a station wagon.

The Porsche Cayanne is missing the Wow factor.
Jeffrey Wolfe (86mondial32)
Junior Member
Username: 86mondial32

Post Number: 74
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 9:43 pm:   

The thought makes me smile... After all the LM was really cool. It could be fun.
rob guess (Beast)
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Username: Beast

Post Number: 3
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 9:36 pm:   

I am sure Enzo is rolling around in his grave just by the mention of Ferrari possibly producing an SUV. The Porsche Cayanne is just another YuppieWvagan like the MB and BMW SUV's a market ploy to attract the clueless with disposable cash.
Bart Duesler (The_bart)
Junior Member
Username: The_bart

Post Number: 110
Registered: 1-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:17 am:   

I have seen the Lambo SUV & the Cheynne. No, I don't think so.
Taek-Ho Kwon (Stickanddice)
Member
Username: Stickanddice

Post Number: 919
Registered: 11-2002
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:17 am:   

Maserati has the Kubang.

That's probably the closest Ferrari will come to an SUV. I might be interested in the Kubang.

Cheers
William Huber (Solipsist)
Intermediate Member
Username: Solipsist

Post Number: 1034
Registered: 9-2001
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 3:08 am:   

These two words do not belong together. Just because Porsche did it, Ferrari doesn't need to fallow.
Vincent (Vincent348)
Member
Username: Vincent348

Post Number: 524
Registered: 4-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 2:44 am:   

Hmmmmm.....No

Vincent.
Tony Roberts (Pantera)
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Post Number: 40
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, June 08, 2003 - 2:43 am:   

Is this something you would want to see?

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